Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

criticism is not hatred.

I certainly don't hate them. I have no respect for them because of their actions, spoken words and behaviours over the past 5yrs.

I view them as akin to the Kardashians now - people who regularly put themselves out into the public sphere for publicity and money.

Unlike the Kardashians they don't seem to have much sense of family or family loyalty.

It's like a car crash I can't turn away from at times.

The things I find most worthy of commenting on (when I can be bothered) are their own contradictions.

Harry - whose whole persona was clearly a product of clever Palace PR, a victim of poor therapy in desperate search of something. Approval, love, attention, money and consumed by jealousy for a brother and a position he claimed to never want and to love.

Meghan - a self styled modern woman, strong, independent self made, a moderniser who would reimagine the RF in the 21st C and show the Royals how it was done. Who was found collapsed on the floor in tears frequently, who insisted on titles for herself & her children, who sees herself as an inspiration to little girls to just follow their dreams of giving up a career to marry a White Prince, who found working for 70 days as a Senior Royal too hard.

I find them funny. They gave up being Senior Working Royals in the world's best known Constitutional Monarchy to sell jam and lifestyle tips on IG and receiving paid for awards.

If Hollywood tried to write it it would be seen as too far fetched.

Edit - clarity & spelling

Great summary @MrsFinkelstein

Very good points, @MrsFinkelstein . When you think of the support and goodwill that they had to start with - the amazing response to their wedding, the cheering, flag waving crowds when they went out and about, people jostling for a picture or a hand shake. They were feted and celebrated wherever they went. They were Vice Presidents of the Commonwealth Trust, they had a portfolio of patronages which gave them the most extraordinary and enviable opportunities.
I find this such a strange and intriguing situation. As pp said - you couldn't make it up.

@Applecidervinegar641

I can’t comment on it because I don’t know anything about it!

Well you’ve been told so you do know now, hopefully you will be able to keep all the information given to you about all their dealings with the SS in your memory bank, knowledge is power as they say.

I was referring to all of the threads and endless hatred towards H & M, picking apart everything they do. Dare I say, to my eyes anyway, it’s a bit odd considering they stepped away from the RF in 2020 and it’s 2024 now

It’s not odd at all, I have an interest in anything royal, what is odd is you, who claims to not be a fan or a supporter of H&M take time out of your day to argue and write very lengthy posts defending 2 people you claim to not care about with strangers over the Internet whilst describing what we write as hatred, it’s very hard to see you as someone who posts in good faith.

I totally agree with you too @MrsFinkelstein.

I was much more neutral towards them before I realised how toxic the Sussex Squad are and fairly certain that they are complicit. This has been since Princess Catherine
became unwell and the harassment, bullying and the disturbing things posted by the Sussex Squad online since, including the conspiracy theories. It was pretty apparent to me how closely linked the Sussexes are to their support group. I now have a much more cynical view of them and their actions.

I hope you have a lovely holiday @Applecidervinegar641 😊

Excellent post

An old but interesting article which perfectly illustrates that not everything the Sussexes claim, is the truth and also how hypocritical there are.
Although many people already know that they pay to have stories planted. This article proves it conclusively. US publication too!

https://radaronline.com/p/meghan-markle-prince-harry-secret-lapd-files-planted-stories-queen-elizabeth/

Update https://x.com/perezhilton/status/1820011910248780102?s=46&t=4tsl7VU-a8iDUZVu_qcPVQ

also this:

I don't think it's the case that there are two distinct sides, and that if you "support" the RF, therefore you criticise the Sussexes because of that.

THis is a predominantly British site, and many of us have been following and commenting on both family and institution for years.

And that criticism does not arise from (imaginary) partisanship, but as spontaneous reaction to latest words/deeds/publications.

So if William were acting as if he were the expert on homelessness then I would be agreeing with criticism of him for doing that. However what he is actually doing is being the one who highlights the issue, puts a new impetus to joined-up working amongst major players including 6 new pilot projects, and showcases the achievements of others. That I applaud.

The Sussexes, via Archewell, have made several grants to worthy organisations, and that is to be commended. I am far less persuaded by the tone of their public speaking, which lacks the depth that comes from long (or detailed/expert) engagement abd which also does not seem to showcase those who really do make a difference.

For example, the Duchess of Edinburgh has been working with charities and other organisations that seek to counter VAWG, FGM and rape as a tool of war. She is now respected for her knowledge, and how she can bring attention to the issue and those working on the issue in the countries she visits, such as Sudan and Colombia. The Sussexes will only get that respect in the same way as her and others, by that lengthy (years, decades) lead-in which builds both expertise and credibility.

They still come across as superficial/scattergun. That might change over time, as people see achievement. It won't come from just assertion

Perez Hilton 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

All this “they left 4 years ago” narrative is bollocks. Spare, which was a big fuck you to the RF, is only 18 months old, and Penguin Random House need Harry to produce some extra chapters spilling further family beans if they are to produce a paperback. The Netflix doc is of a similar vintage. Scobie’s Endgame was produced last November and clearly sourced some of its details from H&M. They have warned not too subtly of Meghan keeping diaries and Harry having enough material for a second book. They are thought to be the source of the countless People etc articles about their relationship with the RF. Harry and Meghan have not stopped poking the RF so they will be “picked apart”, as you put it. Fair comment and criticism is not hatred.

I just saw them being referred to as ‘grief grifters’ 😯😯

Guess it kind of could be seen like that, Princess Diana, her Suicide thoughts, Uvalde, Harry digging a grave with his bare hands, parents of kids who committed suicide.

ALso saw the resurrection of her suicide ideation being viewed as her clap back to the cancer diagnosis of Princess Catherine. Her wig is soooo similar to Catherine’s hairstyle in the cancer announcement video.

Their body language is now so far removed from their earlier years, either she was in full on acting mode with the adorIng gazing at ‘this one’ while love bombing Harry, or things have very significantly gone downhill.

I agree about the body language. Grief grifters is exactly what they are.

Ambulance chasers.

This is a woman who:

1. when pregnant with her first child, may or may not have felt so put upon that after serious consideration of the impact of her words on her husband (according to her: she was aware of how much loss he’d already suffered apparently) decided to tell her husband she’d rather not be alive

2 she is now using this to advertise some online zooms (will she even be participating?) between parents who have actually lost children after online bullying or buying drugs off the internet 3 she also goes on to say that she doesn’t want anyone to feel the way she felt, so she will take whatever flak for speaking up about her suicidal ideation 4 meanwhile, sitting next to her is her husband who is saying parents need to ensure their children are using the internet safely 5 this on the heels of publicity around an all-expenses-paid trip to Colombia (likely to be a Nigeria-esque showboat: who remembers any of the causes they purportedly drew attention to there) and the making of jam and filming of a polo documentary.

I’m one of the most cynical people I know. I’m also not one for superlatives (except for choice swear words when required). I am actually aghast at how low meghan Markle will go to stay in the public eye. Those were parents who have lost a child, sitting right next to her - she with her two living children for whom the titles of Prince and Princess were a birthright she fought for. And she put on designer clothes, Cartier jewelry, make up, a wig, had cameras around and went on national tv to say “I know your grief, watch as I announce a project to bring you grieving parents together on zoom to talk about your losses and while my husband lectures parents on how they should surveil their children’s use of the internet like you didn’t”, all the while looking humble, serious, like she’s holding back on her brimming emotion but is pushing through to do people a favour by giving so much of herself so magnanimously. She even said it helps her heal to talk openly about what she went through.

Thus far I’ve just thought she was just a chancer who got lucky. But with this I’m seeing her as beyond venal. As actually appalling. I’m appalled. On the outside she projects the image of a victimised, gentle woman who happens to be married to a prince whose family drove her to suicide. In reality, she’s a vulture preying on and exploiting people’s vulnerabilities for her own furtherance. I’m out. She’s disgusting.

Agree with every word.

@masomenos 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾

Apparently, Tabloids on Trial was a ratings flop and only the 35th most watched programme on itv for that week. Oops.

www.thenews.com.pk/latest/1217550-prince-harrys-too-dangerous-claim-fails-to-gain-desired-impact

Can’t say I’m surprised

Me neither @Wellieswithsocks! I genuinely don’t think they have the ratings pull that they had. People don’t want to listen to waaah!

I'm not surprised either.

Phone hacking was big news 13 years ago. The media environment is entirely different now. Obviously those directly affected still very much care about, but there's no reason anybody else should.

Probably because it was full of whining, privileged, middle aged, millionaire men who would prefer you didn’t comment on the questionable choices they made in their life …even though they have decided to become public figures.

Literally using the media to complain about media interest in their life

Who also hijack the legitimate horror stories the ordinary public whose lives were badly affected by the hacking scandal.

There’s a difference to a phone being hacked of a young girl gone missing, and the police thinking she’s accessed her phone. Therefore altering a police investigation. And between hacking a celebs phone to only find out that they are going to be at a nightclub ….that they are usually photographed falling out of anyway.

Quite.