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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 11:49

Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Prince Harry Takes Aim at Tabloid Phone Hacking in New Sit-Down Interview for Documentary

Prince Harry will be featured in "Tabloids on Trial," a new documentary about phone hacking from ITV premiering on July 25, alongside Hugh Grant and more.

https://people.com/prince-harry-appear-new-documentary-phone-hacking-hugh-grant-8675884

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Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 02/08/2024 09:16

EmpressOfTheThread · 02/08/2024 09:10

@Theinflictuswithrictusgames - so are you saying that they're against the First Amendment, and are in favour of censorship?
I don't understand the Aspen reference.

Yes, they are absolutely against the First Amendment, which Harry said on record is “bonkers”. The Aspen Institute is an org that has partnered with the Biden administration, big tech, NGOs, and msm to andvocate for online censorship. Harry is a prominent Aspen advocate, as is Meghan’s friend, Katie Couric.

EmpressOfTheThread · 02/08/2024 09:17

Thanks.

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 02/08/2024 09:20

EmpressOfTheThread · 02/08/2024 09:14

Extraordinary. What's his status, do you know? I'm guessing on some sort of visa?

Nobody knows. That is the point of the Heritage Foundation case against the Dept for Homeland Security. The best guess is a defunct diplomatic visa that he used upon first entry to Canada/US but which was never amended to reflect his current status as a private citizen working/earning on US soul(he will be in gross breach of immigration rulesif this is the case).

EmpressOfTheThread · 02/08/2024 09:24

I did wonder, because he's been there for about 4 years now, domiciled and married to a US national, working and - I'm guessing - paying taxes. He must surely be a private individual, as a person like Harry on a diplomatic visa does make me laugh!

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 02/08/2024 09:30

EmpressOfTheThread · 02/08/2024 09:24

I did wonder, because he's been there for about 4 years now, domiciled and married to a US national, working and - I'm guessing - paying taxes. He must surely be a private individual, as a person like Harry on a diplomatic visa does make me laugh!

Well if he’s there as a private individual, his drug taking exploits should see him deported like it has many others. Again, the crux of the Hertitage Foundation FOI case regarding his visa.

Twistybranch · 02/08/2024 09:34

I wonder why that FOI case is taking so long.

I agree that the whole visa application doesn't need to be made public but we only need to know about his status and if he declared drug use. The rest can be redacted.

The judge has had the visa to look at for months now

MummyJ12 · 02/08/2024 11:31

Thanks so much for your posts and lovely words @Runnerinthenight and @EmpressOfTheThread. 💗
CAMHS have been as good as they can be for such a stretched and under funded service that are trying their best to cope with an unprecedented amount of need. We have been lucky with DS’ psychiatrist and nurse practitioner who are amazing and I don’t know what we’d have done without them, and their support over the past 3 years. They continue to assess his risk because they are trained to. Anyone listening to those two go on about parents being first responders…..They don’t know what they are talking about and it’s all such a load of shit. I really hope they don’t ever experience it so realise how off the mark they are.
I have been on a steep learning curve for a while now but yet I would never, ever dream of making out like they do, that they are some kind of experts in this field. I have lived it, and been on so many courses and read so many books as well as learning from my DS and his experiences.
DS starts specialist school in September and I’m hoping we’re onwards and upwards from there….end of my slight derailment. Sorry folks but I’m really passionate about it. I did think long and hard before posting my very personal input.

For me, it just seems that this is the latest new thing to preach about because of the trip to Columbia and it fits in with the violence against children event being organised there.
They seem chameleon like and there’s no integrity to it. I don’t believe that they genuinely care and I think that is my main problem here. It’s not a passion project. It’s also so unbelievably hypocritical when we know what we know about them and their supporters.

EmpressOfTheThread · 02/08/2024 11:40

I hear you, @MummyJ12 - you've succeeded in doing the best for your child under the most stressful and distressing of circumstances. I hope things improve in the new school. 🌻
As for H&M? It's just another level of ignorance, arrogance and entitlement as far as I can see. They have no idea, and no expertise. Ignore.

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 02/08/2024 11:42

Twistybranch · 02/08/2024 09:34

I wonder why that FOI case is taking so long.

I agree that the whole visa application doesn't need to be made public but we only need to know about his status and if he declared drug use. The rest can be redacted.

The judge has had the visa to look at for months now

it’s the DHS procrastinating over evidence that has been holding it up. The case has wide ranging consequences, so judgment should be a considered one. However I am not wholly sure the case has got past the evidentiary stage yet.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/08/2024 11:50

DS starts specialist school in September and I’m hoping we’re onwards and upwards from there….end of my slight derailment

Just seen the info about your DS, @MummyJ12, and along with offering a great deal of fellow feeling for what you're going through I wanted to add that you'll probably find he absolutely thrives

It depends on the school of course, but my own DS attended a special school for secondary - college too - and the difference they made can't be exaggerated

MummyJ12 · 02/08/2024 11:56

Thank you so much @Puzzledandpissedoff 💕 and I really hope so!

LaMarschallin · 02/08/2024 11:58

EmpressOfTheThread

if people will pay, they'll sell.

Nicely and succinctly put.

sausawyee · 02/08/2024 12:08

It's like a phrase I use about a certain place I used to live " Always open to the highest bidder".

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:57

MummyJ12 · 02/08/2024 11:31

Thanks so much for your posts and lovely words @Runnerinthenight and @EmpressOfTheThread. 💗
CAMHS have been as good as they can be for such a stretched and under funded service that are trying their best to cope with an unprecedented amount of need. We have been lucky with DS’ psychiatrist and nurse practitioner who are amazing and I don’t know what we’d have done without them, and their support over the past 3 years. They continue to assess his risk because they are trained to. Anyone listening to those two go on about parents being first responders…..They don’t know what they are talking about and it’s all such a load of shit. I really hope they don’t ever experience it so realise how off the mark they are.
I have been on a steep learning curve for a while now but yet I would never, ever dream of making out like they do, that they are some kind of experts in this field. I have lived it, and been on so many courses and read so many books as well as learning from my DS and his experiences.
DS starts specialist school in September and I’m hoping we’re onwards and upwards from there….end of my slight derailment. Sorry folks but I’m really passionate about it. I did think long and hard before posting my very personal input.

For me, it just seems that this is the latest new thing to preach about because of the trip to Columbia and it fits in with the violence against children event being organised there.
They seem chameleon like and there’s no integrity to it. I don’t believe that they genuinely care and I think that is my main problem here. It’s not a passion project. It’s also so unbelievably hypocritical when we know what we know about them and their supporters.

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Hope the new school helps things @MummyJ12. Maybe when he's in a setting that can cater properly for him, it will be a little less difficult for you.

I'm sick of this pair pontificating on things they know sod all about!! The bloody arrogance of the self-appointed 'experts'!! Plus the lecturing and then they go off and do the exact opposite! I wouldn't listen to a word they say, and I don't know why anyone pays them to spout their crap? They don't care. They just want to make money and they will say anything to achieve their aim. They are actually disgusting now. They've sunk so low!

MummyJ12 · 02/08/2024 19:48

Thanks so much @Runnerinthenight. I totally agree with you.

It doesn’t look like they have much if any support for this grift at least. I totally agree, they’ve sunk so low on this one and everyone can see through the hypocrisy. It’s absolutely disgusting.

The idea of ‘it’s because of the children’ makes it so much worse. It’s all about censorship and control of any online space and trying to make themselves look good. That’s it. I don’t know if I’m going to be able to hear any more of what they have to say on this when the full interview airs. I’m just really glad that they’re getting called out on it.

Harry clearly has no morals either. Using CBS again (Oprah, Colbert and James Corden are/were all with the network and who they have been interviewed by). Yet CBS was the only network to show footage of the scene of his mother’s car crash. All other networks worldwide refused to transmit footage of it but CBS did. So much for him caring about things like that. Surely that’s the ultimate invasion of privacy?

MummyJ12 · 02/08/2024 20:38

Definitely not on our own in our opinion….

Screenshot for anyone not wanting to click the link.

https://x.com/witchinateacup/status/1819407842568176071

Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family
Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 21:36

Well said, that lady! They're a disgrace.

JADS · 02/08/2024 22:25

@MummyJ12 Sending you and your boy all the best. I hope he does well in his new setting. CAHMS gets a bad wrap, but they are overwhelmed with struggling children. My own brief experience has been positive of CAHMS - good to hear they have helped your family too.

Ohpleeeease · 03/08/2024 07:38

So sorry to hear your struggles @MummyJ12. I hope your DS thrives in his new setting, and I also hope you yourself have support.

MummyJ12 · 03/08/2024 09:36

Thanks so much @JADS and @Ohpleeeease 💗. It’s so lovely and supportive of both of you to post. I’m so grateful for everyone’s kindness and thoughtfulness, it means a lot. Thank you all again.

Twistybranch · 03/08/2024 09:50

Yes, also concerned, because as we can see in the thread many people are affected suicide.

Im not even sure if that interview on CBS would even be allowed on British television. I know there are extremely strict guidelines (for good reason) in how you talk about such issues because vulnerable people are very susceptible.

The Samaritans I think work with channels here to make sure content is appropriate.So I hope they are keeping a close eye on this because neither M or H are trained to deal with such an issue. It really is irresponsible of them.

MrsFinkelstein · 03/08/2024 10:04

MummyJ12 · 01/08/2024 21:00

As a parent who has a ND teenager who struggles on a daily basis with generalised anxiety disorder, depression and has episodes of suicidal ideation, which has at times been made so much worse by bullying on social media, I find it extremely patronising. It seems performative and for no one’s benefit other than their own.

They don’t seem to thoroughly research anything, they just throw themselves into complex issues such as this and they don’t have a clue. They aren’t highly trained professionals, so how do they think they can help support parents? What can they offer? Nothing but superficial word salad.

I’ll stick with our support from CAMHS thanks.

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Having a daughter with severe anxiety who also struggled I can empathise. It's so hard, and H&M are being extremely patronising.
And it's way out of their lane.
Their children are 5 & 3, they won't be anywhere near SM,and won't be for a few years.
This is all about H&Ms experience of SM.
Which is fair enough - SM is a cesspool. But own that this was about your own experiences and also the fact you've contributed to it with the SS.

Applecidervinegar641 · 03/08/2024 10:20

MummyJ12 · 02/08/2024 20:38

Definitely not on our own in our opinion….

Screenshot for anyone not wanting to click the link.

https://x.com/witchinateacup/status/1819407842568176071

With all respect to you Mummy J12, I am not sure that I can take the opinions of someone who describes themselves on X/Twitter as

“Royal Historian adult Human female,Terf Agent 40968. 21st Century Suffragette . Prince & Princess of Wales . Slytherin,Opinions my own” entirely at face value 😀

They obviously have an agenda.

I think Harry and Meghan are merely bringing a spotlight to the issues they are supporting, I don’t think they are claiming to be world. experts. The whole of the philanthropy/charity sector in the USA works very differently to that of UK.

Harry always said he wanted to use the press attention they receive for some good. I think people are really over-reacting on here. H & M have as much right to support charities as anyone else and the Columbia trip fits well within their area of focus.

MummyJ12
although we may disagree about H & M, as the mother of a dd recently diagnosed with ASD, I have every sympathy with what you and your son have been going through. The stress is completely overwhelming when your child is struggling and help is so hard to come by. I hope your ds thrives in his new setting. Sending all the very best to you both. 💐

Twistybranch · 03/08/2024 10:30

@Applecidervinegar641

Talking about such subjects that they aren’t trained to deal with is irresponsible. It’s one thing using your profile to highlight the topic but usually what happens is they are there with a representative of a charity, who has more knowledge about the subject and certainly training. Usually a celebrity would give an account of their personal experiences and then you would have the professional speak.

This isn’t the case here. They aren’t representing another charity , they are talking about it from the viewpoint of their work to control SM. That’s wholly irresponsible. Not only that but not to have a qualified expert to talk about practical help, spotting signs is actually dangerous

Applecidervinegar641 · 03/08/2024 10:46

Twistybranch · 03/08/2024 10:30

@Applecidervinegar641

Talking about such subjects that they aren’t trained to deal with is irresponsible. It’s one thing using your profile to highlight the topic but usually what happens is they are there with a representative of a charity, who has more knowledge about the subject and certainly training. Usually a celebrity would give an account of their personal experiences and then you would have the professional speak.

This isn’t the case here. They aren’t representing another charity , they are talking about it from the viewpoint of their work to control SM. That’s wholly irresponsible. Not only that but not to have a qualified expert to talk about practical help, spotting signs is actually dangerous

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Well I don’t think that’s much different to any members of the RF tbh.

You could say that William going to support homelessness charities when he has three or four lovely homes himself is a bit anachronistic. And yes he has slept overnight on town hall steps and good for him but it’s a bit different when you know you are going back to a palace that night. William can’t know the full experience of what it is to be homeless but few of us here doubt his sincerity towards the cause. He is doing really good things in that area.

There is a huge problem with sm and on-line bullying and the tech giants aren’t doing enough about it. I am sure Columbia is no different to any country in that regard. H & M were with qualified experts in Nigeria who accompanied them on their visits or were resident at the places they visited and I am sure it will be the same in Columbia.

And H and M certainly have extensive and first hand experience of on-line bullying.

I think everyone needs to calm down tbh.

It’s not all RF = good
M & H = bad

There’s room for both, and good for H & M for doing something productive.

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