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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 11:49

Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Prince Harry Takes Aim at Tabloid Phone Hacking in New Sit-Down Interview for Documentary

Prince Harry will be featured in "Tabloids on Trial," a new documentary about phone hacking from ITV premiering on July 25, alongside Hugh Grant and more.

https://people.com/prince-harry-appear-new-documentary-phone-hacking-hugh-grant-8675884

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shockthemonkey · 01/08/2024 07:52

That article from People is awfully skewed as PPs have pointed out.

I had to smile at this one:

« He gets 'unavailable right now,' " says the friend. "His calls go unanswered. He has tried to reach out about the King's health, but those calls go unanswered too. »

As if Harry’s calls come with subject headers… « About my fight with RAVEC », « About your health », for KC to decide which ones he wants to accept 😂

Nosummerontheagenda · 01/08/2024 08:14

If true, Charles probably feels enough is enough. His health is the most important thing . He’s in a new and demanding role and his health is crucial.

IcedPurple · 01/08/2024 08:19

shockthemonkey · 01/08/2024 07:52

That article from People is awfully skewed as PPs have pointed out.

I had to smile at this one:

« He gets 'unavailable right now,' " says the friend. "His calls go unanswered. He has tried to reach out about the King's health, but those calls go unanswered too. »

As if Harry’s calls come with subject headers… « About my fight with RAVEC », « About your health », for KC to decide which ones he wants to accept 😂

I know he's his son, but at this point I doubt Harry has a direct number for the king. He is his father, but he is also Head of State, and confidentiality and security are extremely important. I suspect all calls made by Harry to any senior member of the royal family go through a private secretary. It's sad, but this is the world Harry has created for himself.

Noseyoldcow · 01/08/2024 08:22

”Meghan) wants him to be free of all of this, but she also knows that because of everything he’s been through and his love for [her and their children], he can’t. She wants him to live in a world where he is not burdened by this," says the former staffer.
Maybe Meghan has tumbled that he's not going to get anywhere with the court case anyway (well I blooming well hope not.....) and that court cases are not good publicity.
IMO it is right that he and his family should get whatever protection RAVEC deem necessary when they are on British soil, just the same as anyone else considered at risk, but to expect IPP protection is taking the Michael.

Wellieswithsocks · 01/08/2024 08:46

IcedPurple · 01/08/2024 08:19

I know he's his son, but at this point I doubt Harry has a direct number for the king. He is his father, but he is also Head of State, and confidentiality and security are extremely important. I suspect all calls made by Harry to any senior member of the royal family go through a private secretary. It's sad, but this is the world Harry has created for himself.

I’m sure Charles wouldn’t cut Harry off altogether but I’ve seen myself how an adult child can push their parents too far & irreparably damage the relationship. This is what has happened here IMO

sausawyee · 01/08/2024 09:12

Nosummerontheagenda · 01/08/2024 08:14

If true, Charles probably feels enough is enough. His health is the most important thing . He’s in a new and demanding role and his health is crucial.

It's not as if Charles is just sitting there on his throne in his singlet doing nothing 😂 He is a busy man struggling with his health and with a full calendar to attend to.

sausawyee · 01/08/2024 09:16

Harry is doing the cutting off. His father is in ill health and Harry won't bring his two children on a private plane, into a VIP reception at LHR and then by escort to whichever residence Charles is at? He is using his children as a way to get what he wants and he should be downright ashamed of himself.

smilesy · 01/08/2024 09:19

sausawyee · 01/08/2024 09:12

It's not as if Charles is just sitting there on his throne in his singlet doing nothing 😂 He is a busy man struggling with his health and with a full calendar to attend to.

I think I’d avoid calls from my children if I could predict with reasonable certainty that they weren’t just calling for a catch up
and a chat, but were always going to be asking for something or airing a grievance. It would be mentally exhausting. Also, Harry clearly doesn’t like to be told “no”, but there probably isn’t anything more that his father can say to him 🤷‍♀️

Twistybranch · 01/08/2024 09:42

It’s probably doctors advice not to add any further stress while undergoing treatment/recovery.

These calls will always be a conduit for Harry’s grievances, so there’s no point in taking them.

Twistybranch · 01/08/2024 10:00

The fact that he is throwing out there, that he believes the King can help with security alludes to the fact he knows he isn’t going to get security covered by the British Gov or get IPP

So looking roughly at what Harry must pay for security - I think Forbes had it around 3 million.

So they spend this for the next 15 years (not accounting for inflation) then that’s £45 million. Lili is only 3, 15 years at this level will be a minimum in their eyes.

That’s completely unsustainable. Even with the millions they have got from Netflix etc.

Their other costs too must be astronomical. The amount of staff for ‘The Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’ , domestic staff, PR teams, lawyers

He realises he can’t pay for this long term and wants Charles to feel guilt and pay for it

Mylovelygreendress · 01/08/2024 10:18

Twistybranch · 01/08/2024 10:00

The fact that he is throwing out there, that he believes the King can help with security alludes to the fact he knows he isn’t going to get security covered by the British Gov or get IPP

So looking roughly at what Harry must pay for security - I think Forbes had it around 3 million.

So they spend this for the next 15 years (not accounting for inflation) then that’s £45 million. Lili is only 3, 15 years at this level will be a minimum in their eyes.

That’s completely unsustainable. Even with the millions they have got from Netflix etc.

Their other costs too must be astronomical. The amount of staff for ‘The Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’ , domestic staff, PR teams, lawyers

He realises he can’t pay for this long term and wants Charles to feel guilt and pay for it

He also knows that in the not too distant future William will be in charge and Harry will have no way back .

Twistybranch · 01/08/2024 10:29

Mylovelygreendress · 01/08/2024 10:18

He also knows that in the not too distant future William will be in charge and Harry will have no way back .

Totally agree. He knows he has a small window

Vespanest · 01/08/2024 11:00

It’s why I’ll never understand the wanting of the titles for their children knowing the future security costs. It made no sense, they could have asked the king for permission for the children themselves to make the decision as adults.

Applecidervinegar641 · 01/08/2024 11:04

IcedPurple · 01/08/2024 08:19

I know he's his son, but at this point I doubt Harry has a direct number for the king. He is his father, but he is also Head of State, and confidentiality and security are extremely important. I suspect all calls made by Harry to any senior member of the royal family go through a private secretary. It's sad, but this is the world Harry has created for himself.

Mmmm I suspect that is probably the case anyway without anything Harry has done.

Charles himself spoke about having to make an appointment to see his mother.

I come from a family business background and it is very stressful at times balancing the needs of both, but ultimately, as a parent, you have to prioritise your relationship with your dc. Nothing else matters as much ultimately.

It goes against the grain of the majority of posts here but I really do think that, if our dc hold grudges against us, or feel they have serious cause for complaint, it really is incumbent upon us as parents to try and really listen and be humble and attempt to sort it out. Especially if we are not in particularly good health.

I doubt many of us posting on here would rest easy if we found ourselves estranged from our dc.

EdithWeston · 01/08/2024 11:10

It seems there are no bounds to publishing utter twaddle

Vespanest · 01/08/2024 11:16

@Applecidervinegar641 harrys 40 years of age, it’s incumbent on him to begin adulting. It’s also important for parents to not enable their children. Harry left to be financially independent, what appears is Harry believes that is financially supported by his father and country he’s brought into disrepute type of financially independent.

Applecidervinegar641 · 01/08/2024 11:29

Vespanest · 01/08/2024 11:16

@Applecidervinegar641 harrys 40 years of age, it’s incumbent on him to begin adulting. It’s also important for parents to not enable their children. Harry left to be financially independent, what appears is Harry believes that is financially supported by his father and country he’s brought into disrepute type of financially independent.

I can't comment about this with accuracy because none of us know the details of financial arrangements made or broken.

Agree that each of us have personal responsibility but the rules and expectations are little different in a world where you grow up as rich as Croesus; where property, expensive jewellery, legacies and trust funds abound, and are simply part of ordinary life. It is simply not comparable to the financial situation most of us are in. You might very well have different expectations if you grew up in that environment and you were never brought up to be, or expected to be, financially independent.

MrsLeonFarrell · 01/08/2024 11:35

@Applecidervinegar641 I agree that a parents it is incumbent on us to try and sort things out. But I think that Charles has been doing that. He has met with Harry many times, and we know because every time the conversations are mentioned by Harry in interviews or books. At some point it becomes hard to keep trying if you know that anything you say could be repeated, out of context or inaccurately going by previous stories, to the press. Charles can't keep saying nothing or "recollections may vary".

The problem is that Harry is demanding a level of security that he isn't qualified to receive. To make matters more complicated the qualifications are not set solely by the UK but by international agreement. He has no international political standing so he doesn't qualify for IPP. Until he accepts that I don't think anything Charles says will make a difference.

MummyJ12 · 01/08/2024 11:55

The problem with Harry is the delusion of his worth, importance and entitlement compared to the reality.
He isn’t entitled to a relationship with his family no matter what. If they have gone NC then good for them. It’s healthy to have boundaries, it’s certainly the only option for William and Charles currently while Harry is in full on self destruction mode.
Talent, experience and hard work is required for projects that will be well received and lead to continued success and monetary benefits. Not just selling out your family with tales of woe and resentment.
He doesn’t have the love and support of the public like his mother had. Yes she was a superstar but, he isn’t and neither is Meghan. They don’t outshine the Royal Family and are not more loved or respected.
People can see through the hypocrisy and desperation. Especially now more than ever. The feeding of stories and information to the media in particular. It’s ironically keeping the Prince of privacy in the spotlight constantly and with that comes public judgement and criticism. They feed the circus relentlessly.
He can’t see that his own wife is possibly not fully behind him and could possibly briefing the press also. Meghan was nowhere to be seen in the backlash of Spare and now there’s this story of her wanting to leave the lawsuits so that he’s “not burdened” by them. It reads like she is in damage limitation mode. The question is, is she genuinely concerned about the stress this is causing him or is she throwing him under the bus for her own benefit?

Twistybranch · 01/08/2024 12:05

MummyJ12 · 01/08/2024 11:55

The problem with Harry is the delusion of his worth, importance and entitlement compared to the reality.
He isn’t entitled to a relationship with his family no matter what. If they have gone NC then good for them. It’s healthy to have boundaries, it’s certainly the only option for William and Charles currently while Harry is in full on self destruction mode.
Talent, experience and hard work is required for projects that will be well received and lead to continued success and monetary benefits. Not just selling out your family with tales of woe and resentment.
He doesn’t have the love and support of the public like his mother had. Yes she was a superstar but, he isn’t and neither is Meghan. They don’t outshine the Royal Family and are not more loved or respected.
People can see through the hypocrisy and desperation. Especially now more than ever. The feeding of stories and information to the media in particular. It’s ironically keeping the Prince of privacy in the spotlight constantly and with that comes public judgement and criticism. They feed the circus relentlessly.
He can’t see that his own wife is possibly not fully behind him and could possibly briefing the press also. Meghan was nowhere to be seen in the backlash of Spare and now there’s this story of her wanting to leave the lawsuits so that he’s “not burdened” by them. It reads like she is in damage limitation mode. The question is, is she genuinely concerned about the stress this is causing him or is she throwing him under the bus for her own benefit?

Yes, also noted that she did the same with spare and now his court cases. Harry has never done such a thing to her. Why isn’t he picking up on this?
It’s always really undermining too- that she wouldn’t personally behave this way but she supports him.

Wellieswithsocks · 01/08/2024 12:35

“Now that Meghan is looking for ways to make peace with Kate, she’s hit on this idea that Pippa could be a good pathway.”

"Pippa’s always been very reasonable and level-headed towards Meghan, so it’s not totally out of left field."
The source added: "Pippa is someone who she and Harry both get along well with, and they know she’s got a lot of sway with Kate, so the plan now is to approach her and explain how sincere they are in their hopes of patching up things."

😂😂😂😂

Now I really have heard it all… utter desperados.

Gorgonemilezola · 01/08/2024 12:40

Has Pippa actually met Meghan?

Wellieswithsocks · 01/08/2024 12:41

Gorgonemilezola · 01/08/2024 12:40

Has Pippa actually met Meghan?

The article includes a picture of them at Wimbledon with Kate

Serenster · 01/08/2024 12:42

Gorgonemilezola · 01/08/2024 12:40

Has Pippa actually met Meghan?

Publicly, they went to Wimbledon together once.

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