Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

In Newsweek, the spin is very strongly that Charles could get the 'police bodyguard' restored, if he so wished; and he needs to do it if he ever wants things to ve right witg Harry again. So Charles, not RAVEC or established process, is to blame.

The sources also say that Charles is not taking Harry's calls, and go into detail.about the ways in which he is being fobbed off. Sounfs like KC3 is fully NC.

Edited to add the last para.

"(Meghan) wants him to be free of all of this, but she also knows that because of everything he’s been through and his love for [her and their children], he can’t. She wants him to live in a world where he is not burdened by this," says the former staffer

The echoes of the 1997 death of Prince Harry's mother, Princess Diana, in a high-speed car chase also weighs heavily, particularly now that he is a parent.

"As a dad and husband, Harry is determined to ensure that history doesn’t repeat itself," the friend says.
However, if the matter of security is resolved, "it's 'swords down,' " says Harry's friend, as nothing "would give [Harry] more happiness than being able to rekindle his bond with his father."

Crumbs who writes this utter bilge??
What “echoes” of the 1997 death of ‘Princess Diana’ (sic)? And as for Harry magnanimously offering to ‘down swords’ if taxpayers can foot the bill for his family’s IPP status for decades to come the security issues are resolved - words fail.

Tabloids want the clicks and, yes, it is utter bilge water. That is why I think it is very important to reiterate, ad naseum, FACTS.

RAVEC is a committee. Membership of RAVEC comprises Home Office officials, the MPS and members of the Royal Household.

I have not attended a RAVEC meeting so I'm not privy to the ins and outs, having said that, I think the solution that was reached, and has been implemented, is very generous towards Harry and his family.

And this:

"Exactly what is stopping Harry from securing the protection he seeks is a matter of bitter contention"

Harry does have the protection he needs.

Possible threats against him are kept under continuous review. If RAVEC - who have an excellent record in keeping people safe - deem that the threat assessment to be serious enough, he will receive full protection on his visits to Britain. That is a very fair and generous arrangement for an expat who has no official role in British life.

Does he really think manipulative, emotional shyte like this is helping what remains of his 'case'?

A few years ago there were articles in the press about a change in the way royals were protected. Some royals were apparently sad that they were losing some of their long term close protection officers. Yet the changes still happened.

We know from one of Harry's books that the Queen wrote to RAVEC herself requesting that he keep his protection. He lost it.

At what point is it going to dawn on Harry that his Father isn't a medieval monarch?

He gets appropriate security. Security decisions aren't made based on how he feels but on the facts, each time he visits. It seems a very sensible way of doing it.

I’m just curious why these two articles are out now…there must be something going on in the background that their PR is spinning so much nonsense.

Also the whole echo of not wanting what happened to Diana repeated. Then teach the importance of wearing a seatbelt, no?

It's not about security.

The faux royal tour of Nigeria - a very dangerous country - is not something which someone paranoid about security would do. Indeed, he would never have run off to the other side of the world in the first place - leaving a secured home and full police protection - if he had really cared about security.

This is about ego and status, or his self inflicted loss of both.

@IcedPurple I think you are right - I don't think Harry can accept that, having relinquished the role of a serving member of the Royal Family, he's no longer relevant to the UK monarchy’s constitutional role.

That is why, I believe, what he has been afforded in terms of security is very very generous.

@popthepopcorns H's life is like a slow motion toddler tantrum. He needs a hug.

He was constitutionally irrelevant the moment George was born.

That's why he could flounce off to America without it causing any sort of constitutional issue.

I agree with you that RAVEC's arrangement is more than fair and and generous. They are not going to change it, no matter how much money he throws at his showman lawyer.

I did think, at one point, he, & Meghan could have played a significant supportive role. Ah well.....I was wrong.

Toddlers need boundaries, which his dad, RAVEC and the courts are giving him. Generally speaking, toddlers react well to boundaries being put in place, because it makes them feel secure - ironically, in this case. Or not. Anyone else would think “well, if RAVEC and the intelligence services and my own dad, the King, are saying this is enough, that’s good enough for me”. Not Harry though. He thinks he needs armed guards each time he steps foot outside. Fat lot of good that did Donald Trump, recently. Or his mum, sadly.

I think he’s more like a teenager who’s smoked too much pot and played too much Xbox, developed serious paranoia, sees stuff that isn’t real and because he’s got a bit of money, is throwing it down the drain trying to slay ghosts.

I’m not suggesting he and his family haven’t received threats; or that he doesn’t have grounds to worry. I’m saying he’s lost his sense of proportionality and can no longer reason. The wheels have come off and he’s losing control. He’s not a serious or reasonable person. And the more you say that to a paranoid, unreasonable and unstable person the more convinced they are of their beliefs - hence the victim status.

He’s just a common or garden variety pothead without a proper job.

@masomenos Yes, you said it much better than I.

‘Showman lawyer..’ <sniggers>

They didn’t want to be supportive, they wanted to be the stars .
Harry can’t accept he is below William in the pecking order and Meghan certainly can’t accept being below Catherine !

I'm watching a crappy Netflix series about homicides in LA. One if the things that struck me was the DA saying that it is almost impossible to convict celebrities. I do wonder if Harry and his lawyers are channelling the LA celeb lawyer thing. Unfortunately they are coming up against British justice which apparently gives fewer shits.

I think the costs of armed security in the US must be really crippling them. He will be wanting the same level of protection he had in the UK- so that must be millions a year?

I think that’s why the People article is making up so much nonsense- in order to get sympathy.

Harry knows his father has no powers over RAVEC but he puts out info that he believes his father can change things. I think he’s trying in his own way to guilt the King to paying privately for Harry’s security. Like he does for Andrew. That’s also why the article throws in the whole we only sold stories on the family to help pay for security.

Harry is unlikely to win his JR appeal. Even if he did, makes no difference to the decision that Ravec would make again. He keeps talking about all these threats etc- but he knows he isn’t going to get IPP. So last chance saloon….make dad feel guilty so he pays for it. That article was all about the King

And not getting into a car driven by someone who is drunk.

I don’t think Andrew has security anymore except on his rare official appearances.

I know Andrew doesn’t get protection paid for by the UK government but I thought KC was paying for his privately? Part of the deal for Andrew to give up any idea that he works for the monarchy etc

How much security would Andrew need? He lives on the Windsor estate which is already secured. He rarely appears in public and as far as I know, rarely travels abroad. I doubt he has a massive security bill. Any suggestion that Charles is paying for whatever private security he requires is just rumour, as nobody really has a clue.

True but Andrew was always pushy about security. Remember when Beatrice and Eugenie had their stripped. He wasn’t happy.

He seems suffer the same delusions as Harry that way.

Even in this very sympathetic article, it's obvious the King no longer replies because Harry can't accept that his security situation isn't going to change and that Charles doesn't have the power to force the government to give Harry what he wants. Of course Charles avoids him, why would he want to be harangued about something he can't do anything about?

Arguing that it's his family's fault he wrote Spare and that if they'd just kept his security in place he wouldn't have had to sell his story is typical Harry - everything that goes wrong is always someone else's fault.

He's foolish to participate in these kinds of articles. I don't blame any of his family for avoiding his calls, he's completely irrational and obsessive.

In the photos from the near catastrophic car chase PR stunt, Meghan was not wearing a seatbelt, but she did look like she was enjoying herself. Hopping into a random taxi didn’t sound like a wise move from a security standpoint, let alone showing any consideration for the safety of the taxi driver forced to take part in this apparently dangerous pursuit.

What I really want to know is whether RAVEC’s lawyers have investigated the origins of the letter Harry’s team produced at the 11th hour of his case (dated the day before the December hearing iirc) apparently from the NYPD regarding the car chase. Because some clever NY based commentator noted that part of the letterhead was missing, and that it was signed off by someone who had retired. That same commentator and one other have tried getting a copy under FOI and have been told, respectively, they need to wait until October (somewhat odd for the production on a single letter) and that it is not a letter that can be found. Now, we know Harry has destroyed evidence in his phone hacking case. Is it beyond the realms of possibility that he would make some up?

”Meghan) wants him to be free of all of this, but she also knows that because of everything he’s been through and his love for [her and their children], he can’t. She wants him to live in a world where he is not burdened by this," says the former staffer

While Meghan may genuinely want him to be free of this litigation, I wonder whether it’s also because she’s got no intention of visiting the UK and no intention of letting their children visit either. Until they’re 18, he can’t take their children out of the US without her permission (although no one typically asks when you’re traveling) . If she did genuinely object though, he wouldn’t be able to take them. She doesn’t maintain family connections and perhaps doesn’t view them as important.

So the security row may now seem pointless to her in her eyes, because they’re never going to use it? Who knows.