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Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family

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popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 11:49

Is there anyone in the public eye more delusional and lacking in self-awareness than Harry?

The Duke of Sussex, 39, sat down for a new interview for ITV's documentary Tabloids on Trial, premiering on Thursday, July 25. In a preview released a day before the airing, Harry discussed his reasons for publicly pursuing lawsuits against publications over allegations of phone hacking and other unlawful acts — a contrast from his brother, Prince William, who reportedly quietly received a "very large sum of money" in a settlement from News Group Newspapers (NGN) in 2020 amid a claimed "secret agreement" with the royals.
ITV's Rebecca Barry asked Prince Harry in the clip, "To what extent do you think your determination to fight the tabloids destroyed the relationship with your family?"
"I think that's certainly a central piece to it," the Duke of Sussex replied. "That's a hard question to answer because anything I say about my family results in a torrent of abuse from the press."
"I've made it very clear that this is something that needs to be done. It would be nice if we did it as a family," he continued. "I believe that, again, from a service standpoint and when you're in a public role, that these are the things that we should be doing for the greater good. But I'm doing this for my reasons."

Prince Harry Takes Aim at Tabloid Phone Hacking in New Sit-Down Interview for Documentary

Prince Harry will be featured in "Tabloids on Trial," a new documentary about phone hacking from ITV premiering on July 25, alongside Hugh Grant and more.

https://people.com/prince-harry-appear-new-documentary-phone-hacking-hugh-grant-8675884

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IAmATorturedPoet · 28/07/2024 08:18

FFS, put a sock in it man, you are just about to turn 40. This is just another daddy whinge with a good dollop of emotional blackmail thrown in to try and get your own way.

I actually feel sorry for William, I expect he is by now beyond embarrassed by his brother’s carry on.

FloofPaws · 28/07/2024 08:30

Harry really does twist issues he is in to suit his own agenda. The rift with his family is his own doing, he's exploited them for financial gain, lied about them, lied about things surrounding his personal and public life. Yes he doesn't like the media, unless they're telling 'his story' but he's a spoilt little shit who will fling shit at anyone to change a narrative
Grow up Harry and start taking responsibility for your own fuck ups!

Vespanest · 28/07/2024 08:48

So the comment about his family and rift about not standing with him is probably more about the RAVEC upcoming appeal than the hacking and the need to see Pa alone. I couldn’t understand why he was using this standpoint when in February it was all about reconcile. I doubt he’ll be suing Page Six for inaccuracy. I can understand this whilst Harry has been busier this year he doesn’t seem to be making the money to fund the lifestyle and like most rich people including the royal family they don’t like spending their savings and in Harry case inheritance.

popthepopcorns · 28/07/2024 09:27

Serenster · 28/07/2024 07:33

“King Charles can give Harry the security clearance he wants so desperately. As the monarch, he is the ultimate decision maker. That would be how father and son can reconcile,” said one royal source.

That’s a nonsense. We know from Harry’s judicial review against the Home Office that QEII wanted him to continue to have security, but recognised that it was not her decision (and, obviously, her wishes were not followed by RAVEC this instance).

It being a nonsense would not probably prevent Harry from believing it.

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Serenster · 28/07/2024 07:33

“King Charles can give Harry the security clearance he wants so desperately. As the monarch, he is the ultimate decision maker. That would be how father and son can reconcile,” said one royal source.

That’s a nonsense. We know from Harry’s judicial review against the Home Office that QEII wanted him to continue to have security, but recognised that it was not her decision (and, obviously, her wishes were not followed by RAVEC this instance).

Not only is it a nonsense, it also sounds very much like an attempt at emotional blackmail

MummyJ12 · 28/07/2024 09:41

I actually feel sorry for William, I expect he is by now beyond embarrassed by his brother’s carry on.

Me too @IAmATorturedPoet
Not sure if anyone else has seen the story of Diana’s letters being sold recently? In them she talks about how William just loves his little brother so much and keeps kissing and cuddling him. I can imagine this has all been heartbreaking for William as well as embarrassing. Such a shame he isn’t going to have the support of his sibling when he ascends as Charles has had with Anne and Edward. It’s all so sad.

Why didn’t Harry join forces with William when he took his action due to the phone hacking I wonder? And why wasn’t this question asked during the interview with him for ITV? Sloppy journalism.

sausawyee · 28/07/2024 09:49

It's always easy to jump on a certain excuse as opposed to facing the harsh reality of a person's actions and statements.

elessar · 28/07/2024 10:24

I can't believe this security nonsense about Charles having the power to decide, and Harry not being given police protection is still being pedalled completely unchallenged by some news outlets. It’s ludicrous.

It also amuses me the posters who talk about these terrible "bespoke" arrangements that apply to Harry and how they should be changed. The bespoke arrangements give him more protection than he would otherwise be entitled to. No other non working Royal gets any police protection at all, and even Anne, Edward etc only get it whilst on official engagements - and that was the same whilst they were in the same relationship to the monarch that Harry is today.

The sad fact is Harry thinks he's far more special and important than he is, and deserves to have the rules changed just for him - and is literally fighting court battles to try and make that happen. It’s an unheard of level of entitlement from the ultimate spoiled brat.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/07/2024 10:36

I can imagine this has all been heartbreaking for William as well as embarrassing

Very likely, @MummyJ12.
The one I always remember from William is “I’ve put my arm around my brother all our lives and I can’t do that any more; we’re separate entities", which in its rawness seemed an honest (though rare) insight into his real feelings

JSMill · 28/07/2024 11:19

It's been over four years since H and M left the RF and H is still complaining and acting like the victim. It just proves to me they never actually wanted to leave. They wanted to establish their own 'court' which would give them far more control.
For some strange reason, it seems H thought he was equal to his brother and get the same things ie his own household. He should have looked at how his Uncle Andrew was treated. When he married Sarah, he was 4th in line to the throne and still a significant working royal but didn't get his own household. H was 6th in line when he married. I think he thought his apparent public popularity made him more important than he was but it doesn't work like that. H and M announced they were moving out of the country to get some leverage but their gamble failed and he is still bitter about it.

MummyJ12 · 28/07/2024 11:59

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/07/2024 10:36

I can imagine this has all been heartbreaking for William as well as embarrassing

Very likely, @MummyJ12.
The one I always remember from William is “I’ve put my arm around my brother all our lives and I can’t do that any more; we’re separate entities", which in its rawness seemed an honest (though rare) insight into his real feelings

Harry was very much protected and looked after by William and later on also by Catherine.
These photos are really indicative of how Harry needed parenting, even as an adult! It must have been exhausting for them at times.

Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family
Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family
Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/07/2024 12:10

I'd never seen that first image before, @MummyJ12

Of course it's important to remember that a snapshot can be made to "prove" anything, but ... oh dear Confused

IAmATorturedPoet · 28/07/2024 12:37

That first pic 😂

Harry Says His Fight Against Tabloids Is a 'Central Piece' of Rift with the Royal Family
Nosummerontheagenda · 28/07/2024 14:12

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/07/2024 12:10

I'd never seen that first image before, @MummyJ12

Of course it's important to remember that a snapshot can be made to "prove" anything, but ... oh dear Confused

I bet he has been a thorn in their side for a long time.

ThePoshUns · 28/07/2024 14:35

I've never seen those photos before. He must be a right pain in the arse to be around.

pearlfritillary · 28/07/2024 14:48

I do not understand Harry's issue with the level of security he is afforded when he visits the UK. He is given security.

BreadInCaptivity · 28/07/2024 14:53

I'm wary of reading too much into a couple of photos....but I think it's fair to say if you consider how Harry was regarded by the public whist in the RF and how his reputation has faired since he left, that there has been some pretty heaving lifting in the past by the Place PR and family to curate a presentation of H that was possibly very different to his personality.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/07/2024 14:58

pearlfritillary · 28/07/2024 14:48

I do not understand Harry's issue with the level of security he is afforded when he visits the UK. He is given security.

Few of us ever have done, *pearlfritillary, *and so far nobody's ever been able to explain exactly what the problem is with the bespoke, case-by-case arrangement, though god knows it's been asked often enough

It's hard to avoid thinking it's because this is simply "not what Harry wants", but wanting something isn't it itself a good enough reason to be given it

IAmATorturedPoet · 28/07/2024 15:15

I think, deep down, everyone knows it’s a reasonable arrangement. Unfortunately, reasonable doesn’t fit Harry’s narrative so it makes for some pretzel type posts from those trying to make a case otherwise.

Twistybranch · 28/07/2024 15:18

Exactly….

He knows his brother has 24/7 armed protection /police outriders etc automatically.

He can’t stand he will only be afforded such if he is attending a royal event (though doubt he get the invites anymore) or there was an assessed threat.

So what he can’t do is roll up when he likes…he has to plan in advance and had to wait to be told what he will get.

He can’t handle how unimportant he is to the UK

Getonwitit · 28/07/2024 15:38

Nosummerontheagenda · 28/07/2024 08:10

Yes, me too.

Me too

JohnnyAndTheDead · 28/07/2024 15:45

I've never seen either of those photos before. Can you imagine the Sussex squad's reaction to a picture of William making a gun gesture at another man's head, and having to be restrained? They probably say that H was pushed into a terrible place mentally by the evil RF and it's not his fault. Nothing ever is.

Thedom · 28/07/2024 15:51

That first photo of Harry sulking is so funny. it was taken at the London Olympics in 2012,

Harry was 28.

salem4cuddles · 28/07/2024 16:01

Those photos say everything really

salem4cuddles · 28/07/2024 16:05

@Runnerinthenight it was such a bloody funny and ridiculous tirade

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