Mother of Pat Tillman has criticised the decision to give Prince Harry the memorial award at ESPY

[PrincessMee]

Mary Tillman says " There are recipients far more fitting. He publicly disrespected his family , ran away from service to his country. He is unworthy of this award"

She feels there are recipients far more fitting.

I think she speaks for many.

Yes, but they aren’t getting “awards” are they?

This thread is about Harry and this particular award.
There is no justification for him getting it, which seems to be the popular opinion with all but his most devoted fans.

A conversation on the royals about their dress up and medals is one that could be had but as a point scoring regarding Harry who has done exactly the same. The idea that Harry could have got through officer selection in the RAF or the Navy is ridiculous and he has worn both uniforms. He would have faced court martial for the missing of the drug test and his offensive language. His privilege got him flying and again the idea that Harry was the driving force of invictus but equally was the family scapegoat who was not allowed to shine. How are both true

Well we don't get to vote on Royal Honours and there's been quite a few wronguns in that category over the years. It's a private business organisation with it's own internal procedures for better or worse and one that most folks have never heard of before this manufactured 'controversy'. There's no such thing as bad publicity apparently.Certainly not in the case anyway.

https://www.espn.com/espys/story/_/id/40529008/how-watch-2024-espys-s-nominees-honorees-serena-williams

Last year's Pat Tillman Arward.

What Royal Honours do you mean?

Last years award winners were professional field medics who saved a life on the NFL football field of an athlete suffering cardiac arrest. That was it - standing ovation and tears. Harry will be fine.

I'm not talking about Royal Honours - Harry has plenty of those (which he still wears). So he's not above the others on that score.
I am talking his intention to receive an honour which he should not receive.
It would be good if he would turn it down.
I somehow doubt it. Since being an independent royal, he's certainly gone for all that business big time.

Why Jimmy Savile?
Dear me, this is getting desperate.....

Your post makes no sense

If you watch that video I posted that was who the award went to professional field medics who saved the life of an NFL footballer who suffered cardiac arrest during a game which is their job. I've done the Heimlich twice in my life once on a friend who was choking on a fish bone and second on my sister who swallowed a lump of beef that went down the wrong way. Both were in agony and choking to death and my quick action expelled the offending piece of food that could have killed them. I have training in first aid so I just did what I could but by the ESPY standards I should be in with a shout ! So Harry with his continuing and active passion for INVICTIS and helping to build an enduring legacy should be a shoe in.

Learn the Heimlich it works.

Nice attempt at deflection but no cigar for you dear.

No, because he didn't do something heroic in this instance. He took on the UK version of the Warrior Games, supported by the RF. It's a great cause. I've no doubt he's sincere. However, just leading something like this doesn't mean you should get an award! Look at the veterans who take part: less privilege, less money, less access to medical care. Yet the multimillionaire white prince gets the accolades. All wrong.

So basically, you are saying that this is a Mickey Mouse award?

"learn the Heimlich, it works".
How patronising. I first learned it 20 years ago, and practise regularly for my first aid renewal.

Persistently
Insistently
Consistently
Pishily
Existent.

Not quite Eminem but float a beat and I could run with it.

#nanrap

A numpty I once worked with thought it was the Heineken...!

😂Nan! 🥳 As ever, spot on!
I wish Harry would listen to her 😅

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You can even do it on pigeons! 😳

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Yes - it was a one off folks just doing their job like thousands of others every day saving lives by medical first aid. Harry has at least reached this theshold of doing good and then some in the impact he has undountedly had. This was the incident.

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/training-staff-honored-at-the-espys

Okaaay, so how’s this an achievement if Harry has qualified for what you see as a Mickey Mouse award 🤔

"Harry has reached this threshold of doing good"
What , saving someone's life with the Hemlich manoeuvre? No, he was given Invictus. Lots of people work hard to make it successful.
How on earth is that any kind of threshold of doing good?.

Good I've used it twice in anger I wasn't practising.

Good. I know how to do it. No anger, just practise.