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Mother of Pat Tillman has criticised the decision to give Prince Harry the memorial award at ESPY

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PrincessMee · 30/06/2024 08:58

Mary Tillman says " There are recipients far more fitting. He publicly disrespected his family , ran away from service to his country. He is unworthy of this award"

She feels there are recipients far more fitting.

I think she speaks for many.

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TinklySnail · 02/07/2024 16:16

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 02/07/2024 16:10

Point out where someone said that.

Oh that's right, they didn't. They did say that the tabloids hounded all royal wives and you've done what people with no actual point to make usually do and twist people's words from 'tabloids hounded all royal wives' to a passive aggressive ''So that's OK, is it?' It's not a logical leap, it's not even an illogical leap. It's nonsense.

Not according to the lady herself.

https://www.glamour.com/story/sarah-ferguson-reveals-she-met-the-editor-who-coined-duchess-of-pork-in-the-british-press

Sarah Ferguson Reveals She Met the Editor Who Coined ‘Duchess of Pork’ in the British Press

“You were the cause of my eating disorders, my mental stress, my demise.”

https://www.glamour.com/story/sarah-ferguson-reveals-she-met-the-editor-who-coined-duchess-of-pork-in-the-british-press

Gorgonemilezola · 02/07/2024 16:17

Catherine regularly had 'slut' shouted at her by paparazzi in an attempt to get a response. She had her phone hacked way in excess of anything Harry experienced. She was reduced to tears in the street by paparazzi.

And now she has the Sussex Squad and their bile to contend with, and the horrendous press early on in year while she was quite obviously seriously unwell.

So no, it wasn't just Diana and Camilla.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 02/07/2024 16:21

Point out where someone on this thread said that was OK.

TinklySnail · 02/07/2024 16:21

TicTacToes · 02/07/2024 15:24

No comparison, except for Diana and Camilla.

I will put this here again. Just to show you that the media do not give a crap about what skin colour you are. If you are part of the RF, you’re fair game.
Is it right? No it isn’t, but don’t think that Meg has had it harder than any royal wife.

www.glamour.com/story/sarah-ferguson-reveals-she-met-the-editor-who-coined-duchess-of-pork-in-the-british-press

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 02/07/2024 16:22

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TinklySnail · 02/07/2024 16:27

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 02/07/2024 16:21

Point out where someone on this thread said that was OK.

That’s not what you asked.
Stop saying Meghan was treated less favourably than any other wife when it simply isn’t the case.

TinklySnail · 02/07/2024 16:28

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What are you on about?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 02/07/2024 16:36

Dunno, can't remember. Second deletion in a few days tho, do I get a sticker after three?

TallestSally · 02/07/2024 16:39
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I do find reading words that aren’t there problematic.

There are times when the actual words are important.

It is always a pain in the hoop when words are attributed to folk that were never said.

Words are important. Reading them properly is important.

Actions are also important.

And this is what I think of them thar invisible words. An action fond of.

And yes, I pull that face when they are floating about and are commented on.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 02/07/2024 16:39

Oh I know what it was. Something that clearly got up the nose of someone, whether that's lurker or poster.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 02/07/2024 16:40

TinklySnail · 02/07/2024 16:27

That’s not what you asked.
Stop saying Meghan was treated less favourably than any other wife when it simply isn’t the case.

I'm not talking about MM, you are.

TallestSally · 02/07/2024 16:40

TicTacToes · 02/07/2024 15:24

No comparison, except for Diana and Camilla.

One word.

Catherine.

RocketsMagnificent7 · 02/07/2024 16:46

The wording being used to defend Harry receiving this award, with the snide comments aimed at MT and all the blame for any negativity being aimed toward the "British media" is all very familiar. In fact it's eerie how similar it is to that being posted by the SS. Pure coincidence I'm sure.

Thedom · 02/07/2024 16:52

Whether Harry accepts this award or not, it is forever tainted for him and Invictus, he will be remembered for the controversy surrounding it, a worthwhile award which he didn't deserve, suspicions he paid for it, and which caused a huge amount of backlash, It has resurrected unsavoury things from his past and brought them to a new audience.

There is no prestige attached to him receiving and accepting this award, it's the opposite, it highlights how unpopular and scorned he is.

Vespanest · 02/07/2024 16:53

harry supporters will see this as a win, but a bigger win and a PR success would have been the award to Invictus, it would have still been good publicity, even better if leaked that it was Harry’s idea. Himself, Invictus CEO and athletes on the stage and Harry as the humble Prince who dimmed his light so others could shine. I’d hazard a guess this was suggested, they pay a fortune in PR. Unfortunately anything to dampen that Harry has been awarded such as trying to share the attention will be seen as PR now even if it was Harry intent.

IsoldeWagner · 02/07/2024 17:03

It's essential, though, isn't it? He needs "awards", the clicks and the headlines. He's got to keep these things going. Otherwise, what is he?

Thedom · 02/07/2024 17:05

harry supporters will see this as a win

Harry's supporters would view him being caught picking his nose as a win. 🤑

Ellerby83 · 02/07/2024 17:10

How many of these awards has he had now? The Aviation one, the anti racism one, this one. Any others?

Viviennemary · 02/07/2024 19:20

I read this too. Harry got the medal because he has a high profile and is a royal. That's not what the medal is for. The folk presenting it should be ashamed of themselves IMHO.

AutumnCrow · 02/07/2024 19:27

Ellerby83 · 02/07/2024 17:10

How many of these awards has he had now? The Aviation one, the anti racism one, this one. Any others?

The Ripple of Hope award for blah di blahing racism-not-racism in the royal family was ridiculous

ZellyFitzgerald · 02/07/2024 19:33

If Harry accepts the award, I hope he looks at it every day and is reminded of Pat Tillman, a man who was everything Harry isn't.

IsoldeWagner · 02/07/2024 19:40

I agree, @AutumnCrow . I think the "Ripple of Hope Award" has got to be the most ludicrous so far.
Only so far, mind you. With that pair, you never know.

PrincessMee · 02/07/2024 20:18

TinklySnail · 02/07/2024 16:05

@PrincessMee So being called the Duchess of pork is acceptable?

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What on earth are you talking about? I have no idea why you are addressing me. 🙄

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Rhaidimiddim · 02/07/2024 20:20

IsoldeWagner · 02/07/2024 19:40

I agree, @AutumnCrow . I think the "Ripple of Hope Award" has got to be the most ludicrous so far.
Only so far, mind you. With that pair, you never know.

Ripple of Hope people must have been mightily unamused when he told Tom Bradby that the BRF was not racist, he and Meghan never said they were; and, further, Susan Hussey was not a racist either. The Ripple of Hope people got their award tarnished, deservedly so.

Who would be desperate enough these days to accept an Archewell- sponsored award?

Rhaidimiddim · 02/07/2024 20:22

BTW does anyone have a link to a credible source for what happened at the 2024 NHL awards?

Fat-finger edit.

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