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Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?

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YaMuvva · 28/05/2024 15:44

Starting with the porkie that Archie wasn’t gonna be titled. Anyone who understands the Letters Patent would know that as long as the Queen was alive this was never gonna happen. I said this when watching the Oprah interview and I’m pretty appalled they told such an easily provable lie.

Then Harry said that daddy cut his security off. Anyone who knows about RAVEC knows it is independent of the Royal Family and Charles couldn’t do this if he tried. Same with “Only titled people get security” / this was so easy to prove wrong.

And why are there 2 versions of the proposal story. Did they think we wouldn’t notice? Is one a Hollywood version for their American audience?

The same with the ‘how they met’ story - in their engagement interview they said it was a blind date, to Netflix they met on Instagram.

I also was puzzled at her saying she never wore bright colours and that royal women could never wear the same colour as the Queen. It’s just nonsense. See below pictures.

Why do they do this? My theory is that everything they do now is for an American audience who are used to the reality TV narrative of “Some scenes have been created for entertainment” style TV and just accept their narrative as partly fictional, as long as it’s entertaining?

Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?
Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?
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LumpiBolleaux · 30/05/2024 09:27

Diligent? Yes.

Remember what@YaMuvva said.

The public are not stupid.

We see things how they are. Despite concentrated efforts to muddy the waters.

Again, why are they not wanting to discuss surf instructors, bodyguards and very, very rich old men?

Ellaelle · 30/05/2024 09:29

smilesy · 30/05/2024 09:26

Are you getting off on repeating this? I’m beginning to think you are 😂😂

No, are you 😆😆😆

YaMuvva · 30/05/2024 09:30

Teddleshon · 30/05/2024 09:02

@YaMuvva actually I think it’s not often reported quite how much the tabloid landscape has changed in the UK. Kate and Will have just one public photo with their children on the first day of term and then are left alone (any school run pap shots are taken on behalf of international press).

You never see pap shots of the RF now in the British Press. Another porkie told by Meghan was that they couldn’t tolerate life in the UK because of the rapaciousness of UK press photographers.

The combination of Diana and the Leveson inquiry changed everything in terms of infringement of privacy.

I agree with you. I’ve worked in the media since leaving Uni so if other that not everyone knows about the anti-pap deal the Royals secured. The thing is Harry can NEVER complain about US paparazzi now so he’s massively shot him self in the foot

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smilesy · 30/05/2024 09:31

Ellaelle · 30/05/2024 09:29

No, are you 😆😆😆

I’m not the one who keeps reposting the same thing 🤷‍♀️

Ellaelle · 30/05/2024 09:34

smilesy · 30/05/2024 09:31

I’m not the one who keeps reposting the same thing 🤷‍♀️

People ask and I tell, it's a gossip site remember, you're obviously working yourself up or "getting off " reading those particular replies

MummyJ12 · 30/05/2024 09:37

Not engaging with the sewer squad members is the best thing for the more sane of us on here I feel. They’re always going to be vile but don’t give them oxygen or your time. It’s not worth it.

Gorgonemilezola · 30/05/2024 09:38

'People ask and I tell,'

You certainly do - but as has been shown quite clearly above, what you 'tell' is a load of tedious ordure.

MrsFinkelstein · 30/05/2024 09:40

LumpiBolleaux · 30/05/2024 09:27

Diligent? Yes.

Remember what@YaMuvva said.

The public are not stupid.

We see things how they are. Despite concentrated efforts to muddy the waters.

Again, why are they not wanting to discuss surf instructors, bodyguards and very, very rich old men?

Also not being discussed is Harry's intimate and ongoing "friendship" with a blonde female. News of whom started to spread when it was revealed he was staying in a local hotel.

People and glass houses come to mind.

CantDealwithChristmas · 30/05/2024 09:47

It's deemed fashionable and/or cultured amongst the UK bien pensant to profess contempt for the tabloids. This is a view accepted unquestioningly from the rich and famous who have their own reasons not to want their hypocrisies exposed, although they clothe this in a pretence of #bekind and anti-bullying.

It's a shame that the bien pensant so unthinkingly digested this stance from the rich and powerful, and doesn't say much for their critical thinking abilities. But I suppose it gives them a warm glow of self-congratulation at dinner parties, which is really what being a bien pensant is all about.

In actual fact the Uk tabloids play a centuries-old role in holding the powerful to account, speaking up for the working and lower middle classes, and puncturing the pretensions and perfidies of celebrities. In the past quarter century they have done an impressive job of self-regulation so that their methods and content is now far, far less intrusive and speculative than their peers in the US, Europe and Australasia.

Societal discourse would be all the poorer without them.

LadyTottingham · 30/05/2024 09:50

smilesy · 30/05/2024 09:26

Are you getting off on repeating this? I’m beginning to think you are 😂😂

😂

Thedom · 30/05/2024 09:51

MummyJ12 · 30/05/2024 09:37

Not engaging with the sewer squad members is the best thing for the more sane of us on here I feel. They’re always going to be vile but don’t give them oxygen or your time. It’s not worth it.

This with bells on !

Thedom · 30/05/2024 09:52

CantDealwithChristmas · 30/05/2024 08:18

I don't think their behaviour is that curious. To me it seems to be pretty predictable coming from two people of average or below average intelligence and an enormous sense of entitlement.

They thought that they would recieve global, unstinting praise for leaving the RF and 'exposing' it as racist. They thought that the RF would crumble and that people everywhere would embrace them as true and visionary leaders towards the sunny uplands of #BEKIND, AUFENTICITY N TROOTH. Furthermore, they thought that once their reputation as latter day saints had been fully and easily established, the money would roll in, enabling them to adopt a rarified position of 'respectable politically active celeb royalty' - the small, niche and highly desirable space occupied by the likes of the Obamas, Malala and Amal Clooney.

In making these calculations they disregarded a few small but crucial facts:

  1. The general public is not stupid. There is wisdom in the crowd. The public is not a hollow vessel lumpen proletariat waiting to be filled with truth and goodness and told how to think and behave. They are good at percieving hypocrisy and inauthenticity and disingenuousness and will either ignore it or actively ridicule it.
  2. The RF is far more beloved than H&M thought. Yes, we know they're messy, ugly, awkward and a bit dumb. But they're OUR messy, awkward, ugly and dumb. They're family. And we know they're at least trying their best. They are troopers. We like that.
  3. H&M's dramatic flounce meant that the Americans were offered a choice between supporting them or supporting the RF. They chose the RF. See? Americans aren't stupid either!
  4. H&M are BORING! They are hollow brass pots of vacuity, sound and fury signifying nothing. So even if Points 1 - 3 didn't exist, there still wouldn't be a role for them in public life, because they've got nothing to say.
  5. Finally and most crucial. They're pompous. And laughing and skewering pomposity is enormous fun. That's why people love these threads. Not cos racism or cruelty or bigotry or anything else that the more po-face posters claim. It's because we're human, with a functioning sense of humour.

👏

Emotionalsupportviper · 30/05/2024 09:52

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/05/2024 11:40

She had no idea of the rules at play, and no desire to learn them from the advisors that were provided for her as she (mistakenly) thought that they were guidelines rather than laws

They are guidelines rather than laws, but if someone's marrying into such a family it would seem worthwhile to at least find out what's the norm instead of expecting everyone else to roll over and crying victim when they don't

However if I'm correct in believing that Harry was only ever an opportunity and that she had no intention of staying here there probably wasn't much point

I don't believe that she had no guidance from the palace, either.

She will have been shown exactly what to do, and when. She just doesn't like being "bossed" about.

MaturingCheeseball · 30/05/2024 09:56

@CantDealwithChristmas - can you have your own personal thread with your bon mots?! Brilliant posts.

I heartily agree that no one likes the pompous - and Harry and Meghan epitomise the strutting, self-aggrandising and self-centred behaviour of those that need a pin sticking in them. Additionally, however, they are not just amusingly pompous, but are mean and untruthful and I think most of us can’t bear that this pair continually get away with it.

smilesy · 30/05/2024 09:57

Ellaelle · 30/05/2024 09:34

People ask and I tell, it's a gossip site remember, you're obviously working yourself up or "getting off " reading those particular replies

Not at all. I’m just finding your stuck record rather tedious and wondering why you have nothing else of substance to contribute to the discussion 😊

Ellaelle · 30/05/2024 09:59

Oh my! You have a million and one topics running concurrently about duchess Meghan and yet still manage to make more (obsession and derangement come to mind ) one little mention about W an K (or roses and pegs ) then you start getting upset, it's a gossip site let the gossip floooooooow, I guess some people will be triggered by the word flow now 😆

Serenster · 30/05/2024 09:59

CantDealwithChristmas · 30/05/2024 09:47

It's deemed fashionable and/or cultured amongst the UK bien pensant to profess contempt for the tabloids. This is a view accepted unquestioningly from the rich and famous who have their own reasons not to want their hypocrisies exposed, although they clothe this in a pretence of #bekind and anti-bullying.

It's a shame that the bien pensant so unthinkingly digested this stance from the rich and powerful, and doesn't say much for their critical thinking abilities. But I suppose it gives them a warm glow of self-congratulation at dinner parties, which is really what being a bien pensant is all about.

In actual fact the Uk tabloids play a centuries-old role in holding the powerful to account, speaking up for the working and lower middle classes, and puncturing the pretensions and perfidies of celebrities. In the past quarter century they have done an impressive job of self-regulation so that their methods and content is now far, far less intrusive and speculative than their peers in the US, Europe and Australasia.

Societal discourse would be all the poorer without them.

Quite. It’s well worth remembering that the only reason that the world knows anything about Prince Andrew and Epstein is the work of a journalist at The News of the World. And later, it was the Mail who discovered the photo of him with Virginia Giuffre.

smilesy · 30/05/2024 10:04

Ellaelle · 30/05/2024 09:59

Oh my! You have a million and one topics running concurrently about duchess Meghan and yet still manage to make more (obsession and derangement come to mind ) one little mention about W an K (or roses and pegs ) then you start getting upset, it's a gossip site let the gossip floooooooow, I guess some people will be triggered by the word flow now 😆

But it’s not floooowwwing if you keep
popping up and just saying the same thing We did this yesterday 😊. Anyway pop off back to where you came from now

CantDealwithChristmas · 30/05/2024 10:04

Serenster · 30/05/2024 09:59

Quite. It’s well worth remembering that the only reason that the world knows anything about Prince Andrew and Epstein is the work of a journalist at The News of the World. And later, it was the Mail who discovered the photo of him with Virginia Giuffre.

Yes. And On an even more serious note, it was only because of the brave and unswerving dedication of the Daily Mail that the police corruption and systemic racism in the investigation into the murder of Stephen Lawrence was exposed. All the broadsheets, including the sainted Grauniad, meekly accepted the official narrative. But the Mail's editor and investigative journalists kept going despite legal threats from the Met and credible death threats from the murderers and their families. And in doing so exposed an enormous injustice and changed the Met Police forever. Good on 'em.

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 30/05/2024 10:07

YaMuvva · 30/05/2024 08:46

Also can you please link to any “Rose and Camilla” article published in the British press in the last 2 weeks please? I can’t find any

I’m not linking it. I find those papers reprehensible for doing this.

But use Google. Type in Rose Hanbury. and you’ll see her name and picture and scroll just a tiny bit further and you’ll have the links to 2 articles. Type in Rose Hanbury and Camilla and you’ll find more.

Very sly articles. The media know what they are doing when they do this. They are stirring the pot. They did it during the ‘where is Kate’ frenzy too.

Blueroses99 · 30/05/2024 10:09

As the wife of the former Lord Chamberlain, it is absolutely no surprise that Rose moves in royal circles and would be at same events as Camilla. This isn’t a new thing at all so the ‘Camilla taking her under her wing’ narrative is nonsense. Let’s not forget that Rose was sitting next to Harry at a State Banquet that Meghan was not invited to before they were married.

Mis-captioning the Coronation photo of the page boys in the Daily Mail has led to all sorts of nonsense as well. As PP pointed out, the boy at the football with George is not Oliver.

I believe Camilla and Kate have a good relationship - Camilla specifically requested that Kate shoot her photo for a magazine cover that was in her own home/garden a few years ago. The magazine people were surprised by the request but pleased with the arrangement.

Blueroses99 · 30/05/2024 10:09

As the wife of the former Lord Chamberlain, it is absolutely no surprise that Rose moves in royal circles and would be at same events as Camilla. This isn’t a new thing at all so the ‘Camilla taking her under her wing’ narrative is nonsense. Let’s not forget that Rose was sitting next to Harry at a State Banquet that Meghan was not invited to before they were married.

Mis-captioning the Coronation photo of the page boys in the Daily Mail has led to all sorts of nonsense as well. As PP pointed out, the boy at the football with George is not Oliver.

I believe Camilla and Kate have a good relationship - Camilla specifically requested that Kate shoot her photo for a magazine cover that was in her own home/garden a few years ago. The magazine people were surprised by the request but pleased with the arrangement.

Ellaelle · 30/05/2024 10:17

smilesy · 30/05/2024 10:04

But it’s not floooowwwing if you keep
popping up and just saying the same thing We did this yesterday 😊. Anyway pop off back to where you came from now

Oh the irony of flow when people rehash certain subjects and start daily topics about the same person, at every given opportunity, I made one comment and everyone pounces 👁👄👁on me asking me questions so I'm giving answers. Anyway if I'm so irksome block me or skip me cheers, enjoy your day👋

Gorgonemilezola · 30/05/2024 10:22

Nah - it's more you're taking bollocks and are called out on your crap. Everything you've claimed, posters have proved to be big fat fibs, yet you're still here, spreading your nasty little lies. Typical SS behaviour.

Makemydaypunk · 30/05/2024 10:23

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 30/05/2024 10:07

I’m not linking it. I find those papers reprehensible for doing this.

But use Google. Type in Rose Hanbury. and you’ll see her name and picture and scroll just a tiny bit further and you’ll have the links to 2 articles. Type in Rose Hanbury and Camilla and you’ll find more.

Very sly articles. The media know what they are doing when they do this. They are stirring the pot. They did it during the ‘where is Kate’ frenzy too.

You have a lot to say but you don’t seem to have addressed what this thread is actually about, the lies of Harry and Meghan, If you want to start a discussion on the press please start your own thread as this thread has been derailed enough.

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