Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?

[YaMuvva]

Starting with the porkie that Archie wasn’t gonna be titled. Anyone who understands the Letters Patent would know that as long as the Queen was alive this was never gonna happen. I said this when watching the Oprah interview and I’m pretty appalled they told such an easily provable lie.

Then Harry said that daddy cut his security off. Anyone who knows about RAVEC knows it is independent of the Royal Family and Charles couldn’t do this if he tried. Same with “Only titled people get security” / this was so easy to prove wrong.

And why are there 2 versions of the proposal story. Did they think we wouldn’t notice? Is one a Hollywood version for their American audience?

The same with the ‘how they met’ story - in their engagement interview they said it was a blind date, to Netflix they met on Instagram.

I also was puzzled at her saying she never wore bright colours and that royal women could never wear the same colour as the Queen. It’s just nonsense. See below pictures.

Why do they do this? My theory is that everything they do now is for an American audience who are used to the reality TV narrative of “Some scenes have been created for entertainment” style TV and just accept their narrative as partly fictional, as long as it’s entertaining?

Yes I remember that, also wasn’t there something dodgy about the headed notepaper and it conveniently arriving just before Harry’s security case?

I don't think their behaviour is that curious. To me it seems to be pretty predictable coming from two people of average or below average intelligence and an enormous sense of entitlement.

They thought that they would recieve global, unstinting praise for leaving the RF and 'exposing' it as racist. They thought that the RF would crumble and that people everywhere would embrace them as true and visionary leaders towards the sunny uplands of #BEKIND, AUFENTICITY N TROOTH. Furthermore, they thought that once their reputation as latter day saints had been fully and easily established, the money would roll in, enabling them to adopt a rarified position of 'respectable politically active celeb royalty' - the small, niche and highly desirable space occupied by the likes of the Obamas, Malala and Amal Clooney.

In making these calculations they disregarded a few small but crucial facts:

1. The general public is not stupid. There is wisdom in the crowd. The public is not a hollow vessel lumpen proletariat waiting to be filled with truth and goodness and told how to think and behave. They are good at percieving hypocrisy and inauthenticity and disingenuousness and will either ignore it or actively ridicule it.
2. The RF is far more beloved than H&M thought. Yes, we know they're messy, ugly, awkward and a bit dumb. But they're OUR messy, awkward, ugly and dumb. They're family. And we know they're at least trying their best. They are troopers. We like that.
3. H&M's dramatic flounce meant that the Americans were offered a choice between supporting them or supporting the RF. They chose the RF. See? Americans aren't stupid either!
4. H&M are BORING! They are hollow brass pots of vacuity, sound and fury signifying nothing. So even if Points 1 - 3 didn't exist, there still wouldn't be a role for them in public life, because they've got nothing to say.
5. Finally and most crucial. They're pompous. And laughing and skewering pomposity is enormous fun. That's why people love these threads. Not cos racism or cruelty or bigotry or anything else that the more po-face posters claim. It's because we're human, with a functioning sense of humour.

I might be in the minority but I don’t like that dress because it has one of my pet hates - pointless small cutout details. I always think it looks like someone slipped with the scissors 🤷‍♀️😂

I agree with everything you have said @CantDealwithChristmas excellent post.

Funny, isn’t it that Omid Scobie had nothing but praise for Meghan and Harry when they similarly recreated an image of Queen Elizabeth appearing on a hotel balcony in Fiji. Meghan wore a white dress too, even. There were no cries of “Mr and Mrs Coloniser” from him or the Guardian then. Could there possibly be an agenda at play?

According to this interview with her previous agent, Meghan lied about their first date being a blind date. Meghan knew that she was going on a date with Prince Harry and had googled him beforehand. (Of course she did!)
It’s also a lie that she wanted to continue her career. She didn’t. She terminated her contract with her agent before the relationship was even made public. (Telling her agent that she wasn’t continuing with her career).
Interview with agent linked (yes it’s the mail but it’s an interview rather than speculation so I believe it), apparently Jessica Mulroney got in touch before the interview to try and convince Gina not to not give it. Interesting.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5589993/Meghan-Markles-friend-Gina-Nelthorpe-Cowne-reveals-Harry-romance.html

News of Diana was sought globally not just in the U.K.!
And it’s why the British Press made an agreement not to publish paparazzi pictures of the RF anymore. That’s not a privilege extend anywhere else

Also can you please link to any “Rose and Camilla” article published in the British press in the last 2 weeks please? I can’t find any

So HANG ON / we can make fair and constructive criticisms about women who lie and deceive but we aren’t allowed to mention their personality, actions or words?! How are we supposed to do that.

Do you always advocate for stifling free speech? I’m pretty appalled at Diane A bot’s behaviour but should I stay silent on the matter because of #BeKind - I’m a laydeeee so #BeLind always trumps everything right?

Ive never said a thing about Meghan’s looks or voice so take that accusation elsewhere

No one is “policing” Meghan BTW. I think you’ve got confused with a different word. If she was being policed she wouldn’t be able to continue to tell the lies, give the interviews and generally cause upset wherever she goes in the way she does.
She is perhaps one of the least policed women in the world.

Id a die hard feminist but I’d rather cut off my own hand than live in a world where women are never ever talked about except in glowing terms, even when they’ve behaved terribly.

Who hates her?

What falsehoods have been peddled?

Indeed. Apparently we can’t comment on the actions of a liar because that’s policing but the ‘newbies’ here don’t mention the extreme hate a woman with cancer is experiencing in the name of her BIL and SIL who not only stay totally silent on the subject but are self proclaimed friend with the man driving the hate campaign (and it IS hateful) against Kate.

Funny that. How do you defend that @DingDingaling and @Wickedlywearynamechanged

Yes I am going to defend it because Diana died nearly 30 years ago and tabloids in the U.K. for a total are above and behind more forgiving than the US or many other places

You obviously missed the fact that Giles Coren admitted he made up the rumours about William and Rose. He said it was a joke.

@YaMuvva actually I think it’s not often reported quite how much the tabloid landscape has changed in the UK. Kate and Will have just one public photo with their children on the first day of term and then are left alone (any school run pap shots are taken on behalf of international press).

You never see pap shots of the RF now in the British Press. Another porkie told by Meghan was that they couldn’t tolerate life in the UK because of the rapaciousness of UK press photographers.

The combination of Diana and the Leveson inquiry changed everything in terms of infringement of privacy.

History is history and if people still want to peddle falsehoods about them it is worth doing a deep dive into the media that spawned hellfire in the UK.

History is history and if two people want to peddle falsehoods it is worth doing a deep dive into why they are so determined to spawn hellfire in the UK.

There. Fixed it for you.

As for policing? Has Meghan been under scrutiny? Yes. Policed? No.

The thing is, if you act badly then your actions will be discussed. If your stories change or are unbelievable, then your stories will be questioned. If your intentions don’t seem honourable, then you will be under scrutiny. And if you are a hypocrite, people will hold you to account.

It isn’t policing. It is an understandable reaction.

I wish Harry got equal criticism (or more) as I think he is worse. But given people are still making excuses for him being that ‘poor damaged BOY’ I can see why that is not the case.

Reality. He’s a big boy now. Middle aged man in fact. And his behaviour has been dreadful. Borne of resentment, spite and revenge because he didn’t get his own way.

His behaviour is far worse than her behaviour, but let us not kid ourselves that she is so very innocent and hard done by.

She ain’t.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13409571/Rose-Hanbury-Badminton-Horse-Trials-Queen-Camilla.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13431663/rose-hanbury-marchioness-cholmondeley-court-queen-camilla.html

They probably sent the heavy boys to Giles to retract, definitely something going on there, recently prince William even took her son to a footy game. 🌹 and Will are definitely at it!!!!

Apparently she's been pegging him silly! (W an R)

They probably sent the heavy boys to Giles to retract, definitely something going on there, recently prince William even took her son to a footy game. 🌹 and Will are definitely at it!!!!

Mindlessly repeating malicious internet gossip, I see? Be better.

Here is the friend that went with George and William to the football, and here is the Chomondeley’s oldest son Oliver. Two different children…

Ellaelle, you'd think if Rose was there 'with' Camilla the Mail would have been creaming themselves over photos of them together. There aren't any in that 'article'. There's a picture of Rose on her own, but none if her actually with Camilla. So a bit of an exaggeration, no?

Apparently? We're you hiding under the bed? My goodness, the lengths the Sussex Squad will go to in their attempts to smear the rf. I salute your diligence

Absolutely spot on

Are you getting off on repeating this? I’m beginning to think you are 😂😂

Oh come on their shenanigans are an open secret even Ryanair made comment to it