Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?

[YaMuvva]

Starting with the porkie that Archie wasn’t gonna be titled. Anyone who understands the Letters Patent would know that as long as the Queen was alive this was never gonna happen. I said this when watching the Oprah interview and I’m pretty appalled they told such an easily provable lie.

Then Harry said that daddy cut his security off. Anyone who knows about RAVEC knows it is independent of the Royal Family and Charles couldn’t do this if he tried. Same with “Only titled people get security” / this was so easy to prove wrong.

And why are there 2 versions of the proposal story. Did they think we wouldn’t notice? Is one a Hollywood version for their American audience?

The same with the ‘how they met’ story - in their engagement interview they said it was a blind date, to Netflix they met on Instagram.

I also was puzzled at her saying she never wore bright colours and that royal women could never wear the same colour as the Queen. It’s just nonsense. See below pictures.

Why do they do this? My theory is that everything they do now is for an American audience who are used to the reality TV narrative of “Some scenes have been created for entertainment” style TV and just accept their narrative as partly fictional, as long as it’s entertaining?

I think they are tuned into influencer culture - all smoke and mirrors, yet somehow a lot of people believe it.

Very odd

But the point about Archie's title was that the Queen did change the rules for Charlotte and Louis, who also shouldn't have been Princess and Prince from birth. If she did for two of Charles' grandchildren, I can see why the question arose as to why she didn't for the other. Also it appeared that from Meghan's understanding, security arrangements had become linked to the title so Archie wasn't provided security separate to Harry's security detail at birth because he wasn't a Prince.

You’re brave OP 😂

I agree though. The one about a private ceremony before the actual ceremony was a bit odd - esp as the AofC then confirmed there had only been one ceremony. If they exchanged private vows to each with no-one else present other then fair do’s, I think most of us could understand that, but theor wording was strange. The other one about the near catastrophic care chase through the NY streets was also a bit weird.

Actually she changed the rules before George was even born (and before Meghan was on the scene) to prevent sibling envy of the Wales’s children (if you look back over hairdo the that has always been a disaster for Royals). Nothing to do with Meghan at all.

She didn’t do it for Harry’s kids because why would she? Why would she extend titles so much in a modern monarchy?

It also debunks the claim that he wasn’t titled because he was gonna be a mixed race baby.

I don’t believe a woman of Meghan’s intelligence couldn’t understand the basics of security. Let alone misunderstand it then lie on TV. Also what did Archie need separate security for?? He was a newborn baby. His parents had 24/7 security. Did they expect a police officer to stand over his cot?

Also Harry reckons Archie’s first word was ‘crocodile’ and that is just unbelievable, of all the lies they tell this one always annoys me most for some reason 😆

And why are there 2 versions of the proposal story. Did they think we wouldn’t notice? Is one a Hollywood version for their American audience?

I think this is a big part of it. They are aiming largely at an American audience who don't always have a detailed knowledge of UK history, culture and traditions. They can get away with a lot that way!

If you have a strong enough stomach, have a look on that sewer-pipe site known as Celebitchy. The rubbish spouted on there by the mostly American posters is eye-watering. A lot of their opinions are based on a misunderstanding of British customs. It's very much a Sussex Squad hang-out, and the cultish adoration of H & M and the vicious hatred of the RF (and the British nation) is quite staggering. I think to a large extent they've given up on the UK.

@FanofLeaves I read these words eg, waffle maker & crocodile were M & H’s in jokes & ref to sexual positions to have a laugh at public’s expense. Seems far fetched.

But the change to the title rules for William’s children was only made because they were changing the rule that male children automatically came before female children in the line of succession.

So the title change was to prevent a situation where if William’s firstborn has been a girl she would have been the heir, and unlike Anne no younger brother would be able to jump in front of her in the succession but under the old rules she would only have been titled Lady while a younger brother would have been Prince.

The Queen had 12 great grandchildren by the time she died. The only ones which were treated differently in terms of titles were the ones in the direct line via William.

Harry either didn’t explain this to Meghan properly or he still hadn’t really understood himself that once George was born, his path was more in line with his cousins rather than his brother. His kids were always going to be slightly more privileged because they would be grandchildren of a monarch at some point. But during the time they were complaining about they were still just 2 of 12 great-grandchildren.

I know the poor Archbishop, having to confirm he hadn’t in fact committed a crime! I do believe the “we got married” exaggeration fed into the “some scenes are created for entertainment purposes” thing.

Years and what’s ago I remember watching Wife Swap USA and it was WAY more explosive than the UK version - then I realised at the start the “some scenes are created for entertainment purposes” and it made sense. Then when I lived in the US, everything televised is a bit like this.

🤣🤣🤣 not mumma or dadda or peppa, crocodile 😂

A few weeks ago I have a short stumble into it, then practically had to bleach my eyes. An American MNer whose name I’ve forgotten describes these as ‘ugly Americans’ ie Americans who think they are the centre of the world and don’t understand other cultures, it was like a hive of them.

See I think they knew and understood exactly it didn’t apply to them but we’re still furious about the rules, and decided to tell the world it was personal rather than procedure.

I thought from the moment the Oprah interview aired that I didn’t buy Meghan’s story of “I just didn’t get it!”. She got it. But she thought she could shake things up with her Hollywood feminist perspective and when that didn’t happen she was NOT happy - same for Harry.

Harry says whatever she wants him to say.

She is the master manipulator and liar.

@YaMuvva you've forgotten they got married 3 days before they did.🤣🤣 AB of C said it didn't happen so an easy lie to disprove.

My son's first word was 'strawberry'. It was really odd but he just came out with it. He said it 'dor-bree' but that's what it was. 'Crocodile' no more or less likely than that, bit bizarre to claim it's a lie - how on earth would you know?

And they then said “Oh we meant it in a spiritual sense”. Which is what dodgy people do when they get caught out - they play semantics

There’s a story he tells in his biography that struck me as completely impossible- he claims that in his first solo press interview he was given no briefing and nobody from the palace Comms team sat in on it, and that the journalist asked him loads of questions about Diana that he answered because he didn’t know what else to do.

I work in PR, this is so completely ridiculous it can’t possibly be true, it’s just simply not how this would’ve happened at all.

I think Harry is the worst of the two, not Meghan. She never stood a chance.

He's entitled, spoiled and has a huge chip on his shoulder that his brother will be King and he won't. No amount of pacifying by Charles is ever going to remove that fact. It's exactly what happens when you raise kids without ever saying No.

I also work in PR/the media and I have met RF members as part of my work. Even I got a 10 minute briefing on protocol. No way would that happen. The Royal press team has an excellent reputation as a well oiled machine.

Harry's neurodiverse, his kids may well be too in which case development is very different, my kids' first words were far from conventional. No-one believed me, TBF the first time I heard it, I didn't believe it myself.

Anyway, enjoy the thread, leaving a nasty taste for me tbh but people must get something out of this sort of thing.

I agree with this.
I think she’s pretty awful and fame hungry too but with that lying petulant twat by her side she’s never gonna be humbled or made to understand they aren’t top dog, and as time goes on and the Wales children age they become less and less relevant

Is he?? How is he ND? I didn’t know this.

Exactly, it just struck me as utterly absurd that he’d say it, as I remember he says it was just him and the journalist sitting in a field or some nonsense it’s just such a silly suggestion.

Harry's neurodiverse

Since when? I don't ever recall ANY mention of that - ever

Didn't Archie also (allegedly) turn his nose up at a camera because it wasn't a Leica. Cos every 4 year old would know what that was

It's a fairly common last word.