Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?

[YaMuvva]

Starting with the porkie that Archie wasn’t gonna be titled. Anyone who understands the Letters Patent would know that as long as the Queen was alive this was never gonna happen. I said this when watching the Oprah interview and I’m pretty appalled they told such an easily provable lie.

Then Harry said that daddy cut his security off. Anyone who knows about RAVEC knows it is independent of the Royal Family and Charles couldn’t do this if he tried. Same with “Only titled people get security” / this was so easy to prove wrong.

And why are there 2 versions of the proposal story. Did they think we wouldn’t notice? Is one a Hollywood version for their American audience?

The same with the ‘how they met’ story - in their engagement interview they said it was a blind date, to Netflix they met on Instagram.

I also was puzzled at her saying she never wore bright colours and that royal women could never wear the same colour as the Queen. It’s just nonsense. See below pictures.

Why do they do this? My theory is that everything they do now is for an American audience who are used to the reality TV narrative of “Some scenes have been created for entertainment” style TV and just accept their narrative as partly fictional, as long as it’s entertaining?

Indeed it would, I agree.

Lots of women who are on MN hold down jobs where they examine ranges of data and views, and miraculously hold them in their heads all at the same time, and analyse their content and meaning, and discuss potential conclusions.

Stop saying that I can't be helped.
It's rude.
Argue my points, don't get personal. Yet again.

It would be good to have some reasonable debate on here. The behaviour of Meghan and Harry is curious.

Interesting! Thank you.
Maybe you "can't be helped" either 😆

I don’t realise they weren’t wearing seatbelts and I couldn’t find any photos of the event. It’s absolutely unbelievable if they weren’t, given what happened to Diana. Did Harry not understand the lack of seatbelts was a crucial factor in his mother’s death?

No seatbelts? That's basic safety, surely. Especially after Diana. Risky behaviour is usually challenged by personal security operatives.

If someone could send a link to the footage I’d be curious to see it.

There a photo in this piece from Fox

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/prince-harry-meghan-markle-nyc-timeline-alleged-near-catastrophic-incident

I meant to add - I do wonder why. They could have an amazing life, it seems a pity really.

I love that gold dress on MM.

That photo of her in the car is curious to me. I'm projecting but to me it looks like she is frozen while her DH is unravelling in that moment. That sort of frozen rictus grin and sitting bolt upright.

Not a fan of her anymore (I was delighted when she came onto the scene) but I am not sure being married to Harry would be a walk in the park.

Yes, I don’t think she’s ever looked better than in that gold dress.

My problem with them is how they magnify every small issue into something world-ending. They behaved oddly on the night in NY - leaving their vehicle for a cab? Driving around instead of going back to where they were staying which would have had minimal paparazzi value? Releasing a statement about it that made it seem like Diana 2.0? If I wanted to attract paparazzi attention I’d probably do all of that, speaking cynically, but I suspect it got out of control and Harry, for one, was genuinely terrified. I know this thread was originally about lies they told but I think it’s very much their version of the truth, through a lens of complete paranoia and self absorption. That’s how we can have thirty odd pages of ‘yes but’ discussion. Common sense would turn their mountain of complaints into a small manageable pile but they don’t seem to have any.

The Hertz dress, another PR fail, walking through a yellow Hertz office wearing the same colour as the brand. What a stupid coincidence.

Never understood their security putting them in a random cab and none of them wearing seatbelts in a 'high speed car chase'.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/05/18/harry-meghan-car-chase-paparazzi-security-question/70228959007/

This was interesting because the journalist interviewed professional security people who don't seem impressed by Harry's team. I would like to point out again that the NY Post article that I had previously linked mentioned that the police felt H' s team was partially at fault for not working with them.

The incident took place run before one of his UK security bids, if I remember correctly.

@Thedom one of my coworkers saw Meghan by the Hertz counter and mistakenly thought she had signed with Hertz to do ads since the dress matched the Hertz sign. She was horrified at the idea.

From what I saw, the vast majority have no opinion of them at all, they just aren't relevant.

When there's an official visit, the visitors will be greeted and hosted with every attention. That doesn't mean they are of interest as individuals.

😀i think a lot of people had that thought too, who knows maybe they did have a deal going on. The dress was indeed gorgeous, now forever linked to the Hertz brand.

That photo is just so odd. Three people with completely different quite extreme reactions. Doria ( why was she even there?) just looking at her phone seemingly unbothered and in a bubble. Meghan who is like a lifeless Barbie doll, Harry in a complete state. They just aren’t in synch at all. What is the story that photo tells. I’m still agog that not one of them wore a seatbelt.

Well I’m closer to 70 than 60 so no, you aren’t in the playground so don’t worry. I do tend to pick up new phrases and new ways to use words pretty quickly.

I’ve read the commissioned articles in the Hill. AliceOlive is the first person to bring a link to the Hill here, ages ago. Another poster has also provided a link a while back too. And so has Bemused American more recently. We are actually quite well read on here. We read all sorts.

I’m not concerned about Harry and Meghan being unwitting agents for Russia or China. There’s way too much to be concerned about in regards to destabilisation of the west. I am concerned that Trump will be re-elected - that scares the living daylights out of me. There’s a long list of things I fear about the now and the future. But H&M’s actions? No.

I’m also aware that any articles concerning Harry and Meghan bring much bigger readership numbers than articles re other RF members. So successful are their names at drawing traffic to articles that most stories re the RF mention Meghan and Harry somewhere. Has the Hill stooped to that?

The incident took place run before one of his UK security bids, if I remember correctly.

I think you are correct, and then they supplied a letter from someone in the NY police dept to support his claim in the UK.

But the letter was controversial since it was signed by a man and the person in that position is a woman. People in the US filed FOIA forms. I don't think it was ever resolved. There was lot of talk on Reddit about it.

@Wickedlywearynamechanged , I know I am digressing, I hear you on Trump. I can't believe he is in the running again and a strong candidate. I am so disappointed that Kamala Harris made little or no impact during her time as VP, she turned out to be a disappointment, it would have been amazing if she had made enough of a mark to run for Presidency. It beggars belief there are no candidates other than Trump and Biden.

Back on track, @BemusedAmerican yes, I remember that too, it was all so sketchy and contradicted what the mayor and others had said about the chase.

@Wickedlywearynamechanged Mark Toth is a respected journalist. The targeted bot campaign against Princess Catherine is proof that he was right.

Trump is a strong candidate because of targeted disinformation campaigns. The one against Kate reminded me of the Trump elections.

Bit of a coincidence that the squad seem to claim that all bad things that happen to the Sussexes come from the Queen and the Prince and Princess of Wales, and that it is their specific press officers that are claimed to have made this nonsensical take over of the already defunct Fleet Street 🤔. Anyway, why would you make your presence known if you wanted to “spread stories”? Surely you’d make sure you infiltrated under cover

I mainly visit MN to avoid thinking about American politics.