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Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?

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YaMuvva · 28/05/2024 15:44

Starting with the porkie that Archie wasn’t gonna be titled. Anyone who understands the Letters Patent would know that as long as the Queen was alive this was never gonna happen. I said this when watching the Oprah interview and I’m pretty appalled they told such an easily provable lie.

Then Harry said that daddy cut his security off. Anyone who knows about RAVEC knows it is independent of the Royal Family and Charles couldn’t do this if he tried. Same with “Only titled people get security” / this was so easy to prove wrong.

And why are there 2 versions of the proposal story. Did they think we wouldn’t notice? Is one a Hollywood version for their American audience?

The same with the ‘how they met’ story - in their engagement interview they said it was a blind date, to Netflix they met on Instagram.

I also was puzzled at her saying she never wore bright colours and that royal women could never wear the same colour as the Queen. It’s just nonsense. See below pictures.

Why do they do this? My theory is that everything they do now is for an American audience who are used to the reality TV narrative of “Some scenes have been created for entertainment” style TV and just accept their narrative as partly fictional, as long as it’s entertaining?

Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?
Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?
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LumpiBolleaux · 29/05/2024 13:18

I would rather they reported covert racism and highlighted it Isolde

bellezarara · 29/05/2024 13:18

IdoldeWagner · 29/05/2024 13:13

How do you know the ethnicity of posters?

I don't, but I can guess based on their posts.

LumpiBolleaux · 29/05/2024 13:19

Guessing?

Fabulous.

bellezarara · 29/05/2024 13:19

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LumpiBolleaux · 29/05/2024 13:20

‘Guessing’ there is dog whistle racism here as well by the look of it.

Bigcat25 · 29/05/2024 13:21

User353526 · 28/05/2024 17:58

Because narcissists love to lie and if people don't confront them (which many don't bother) then they assume they got away with it. Narcs believe they are great at manipulating people and will stretch or exaggerate their version of events to the point of everything being lies.

It also has nothing to do with privilege or money. Just like how depression doesn't magically go away if you're rich, narcissistic behaviour also doesn't go away just because someone's privileged.

To be fair, I don't think Harry is a narc, but Meghan is a textbook narcissist. Harry suffered a lot of MH issues and became enmeshed in her manipulations so it's easy to see why he displays many similar traits now.

I think they're both narcs, although M is a massive one.

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Then report them each and every time. Your guesses at posters' ethnicities and vague 'I see you's' are a good attempt at deflection - but H&M's lies remain very visible.

LumpiBolleaux · 29/05/2024 13:21

And in my opinion? The guesses are wrong.

IdoldeWagner · 29/05/2024 13:25

bellezarara · 29/05/2024 13:18

I don't, but I can guess based on their posts.

😂😂
Right

Vespanest · 29/05/2024 13:26

Is implying that how someone writes can tell their ethnicity in itself an unconscious racist bias. I’d like to know the tells.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 29/05/2024 13:27

@bellezarara if you see racism please report it. Every single time you see it.

But it’s not racist to criticise the Sussexes behaviour. I feel sorry for Meghan as I think she’s taken the brunt of the criticism but Harry has let her down badly imo, by not explaining to her about royal protocol.

A lot of the issues imo are because he didn’t want to lose her or have her walk away.

IsoldeWagner · 29/05/2024 13:30

Vespanest · 29/05/2024 13:26

Is implying that how someone writes can tell their ethnicity in itself an unconscious racist bias. I’d like to know the tells.

Maybe it's how posters use the subjunctive clause. I think if you're 43% Viking, your sentence structure is weaker.

DingDingaling · 29/05/2024 13:31

Why is it that the UK right wing media is the most vocal about Meghan? It has a proven track record regarding its explicit bias. The right wing media is popular (Daily Fail being a case in point) in the UK. The Daily Fail is the UKs most popular paper. Its Online presence is a magnet for racists in its comments section. People pretend they don’t read the Daily F for their info. Yet their main demographic has historically been middle class women. Meghan is never out of their news. Hmmm…

Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?
Thedom · 29/05/2024 13:33

IsoldeWagner · 29/05/2024 13:30

Maybe it's how posters use the subjunctive clause. I think if you're 43% Viking, your sentence structure is weaker.

LOL 😂

DingDingaling · 29/05/2024 13:38

Makemydaypunk · 29/05/2024 12:05

I see the “we don’t know” line being trotted out again to try and close down discussion, the way you write is exactly the same as a “stalwart” of these threads, that was their favourite line they used frequently on these threads to try and shut people down. FYI it won’t work no matter how many times you repeat it here.

We don’t know. Ignorance is bliss. 👌

IsoldeWagner · 29/05/2024 13:38

What does that prove?
Also, some people refer to the Daily Mail as the Daily Fail?
Been said. Many, many, many times.

DingDingaling · 29/05/2024 13:41

SloaneStreetVandal · 29/05/2024 06:30

I think, at the very least, they're exaggeration prone. That interview Meghan did with The Cut is just astonishing.

I liked them both at first, and respected their decision to leave royal life. My opinion changed though when it became clear they weren't just going off to Canada to live a modest/simple life (the South Park 'privacy world tour' episode nails it 😂). It strikes me that Harry's petulance is because he hasn't been granted free rein; he wanted the benefit (financially) of being HRH without any of the obligation. It was very low of him to spread damaging gossip about his brother knowing William couldn't clap back (I've read the spare in it's entirety).

I think him and Meghan bring out the worst in each other, and they'll continue to trip themselves up for as long as they refuse to take advice from anyone other than sycophants.

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Couldn’t clap back? Are you serious. They do it all the time through leaks, ‘ pet’reporters etc etc.

LumpiBolleaux · 29/05/2024 13:44

I think the same @WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout.

For all the upset over feeling let down by everyone and everything, no- one let her down more than H.

She may or may not have had unrealistic expectations beforehand - we don’t know - but he chose to sell her the moon and she believed it.

She got a pig in a poke and married it to boot.

And then was left disappointed, let down and with a complex that she was othered into a second tier RF.

Nope. She married the spare and she was never going to be Queen of hearts (although the Hertz one was a nice try), never going to be top of the pile and that just wasn’t enough.

They had their own merits and shine to bring of course but they chose not to because they felt unhappy with their position and limitations.

Only that pretty shine wore off and displayed the ugliness of both beneath the surface. Bitterness, spite and victimhood isn’t attractive. It sure as hell shines out though.

It is unfair that she has ‘copped it’ more as I find H far more unpleasant and questionable.

Both are deserving of criticism though.

I wonder how those non squad supporters would feel about them if it was shown (without a shadow of doubt) that they were behind the Squad and actively encouraged it?

Vespanest · 29/05/2024 13:45

Harry has explained all this to us already, you’re allowed to be racist (repeatedly) as long as you say it’s unconscious bias, well that’s the rule for him. He’s the oracle and all that.

DingDingaling · 29/05/2024 13:45

IsoldeWagner · 29/05/2024 13:38

What does that prove?
Also, some people refer to the Daily Mail as the Daily Fail?
Been said. Many, many, many times.

…oh, okay I assumed you had university level knowledge of the studies done regarding the UK, its attitudes, its media etc etc. My bad.

LumpiBolleaux · 29/05/2024 13:46

You don’t need university level education to tell the difference between an M and an F though.

wordler · 29/05/2024 13:50

One of the problems Harry and Meghan face with their public image now is they did so many weird things in their early press coverage - with it made even weirder with their revelations in Oprah and Spare that they’ve left themselves very vulnerable to conspiracy theorists, and those who what to exploit their keyword recognition to make money from them.

Lots of celebrities and most of the main royals face a similar problem to a certain extent -rumours, anonymous sources, trying to fill a slow news day - but H&M keep adding fuel to the fire with the odd things they say and do.

Blueroses99 · 29/05/2024 13:58

Members of a Royal Family, or indeed representatives of any head of state, are ambassadors of their country. Meghan and Harry have criticised the UK on a world stage with a narrative of racism, it’s unsafe, the press are awful, there was even a swipe at the government being at rock bottom before one of Harry’s recent court cases. While they have never directly said the royal family or the UK or any individual are racist, that’s the message that’s gone around the world. The have been careful with their words, it’s implied in a way that gives plausible deniability. Even the half-hearted, very belated “we never said that the royal family are racist/it was the press/it was unconscious bias” interview has failed to correct the course.

I do not appreciate being called racist online just because I live in the UK. I don’t believe that the UK is a racist country. I won’t claim that there are no racist incidents ever, it can happen at an individual level anywhere and we must always do better. But my opinion and my lived experience is that racial discrimination is not in our culture.

Just had to get that off my chest as I have experienced casual racism in various countries as a POC and am furious that the UK is under a negative spotlight due to their accusations/insinuations.

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