Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?

[YaMuvva]

Starting with the porkie that Archie wasn’t gonna be titled. Anyone who understands the Letters Patent would know that as long as the Queen was alive this was never gonna happen. I said this when watching the Oprah interview and I’m pretty appalled they told such an easily provable lie.

Then Harry said that daddy cut his security off. Anyone who knows about RAVEC knows it is independent of the Royal Family and Charles couldn’t do this if he tried. Same with “Only titled people get security” / this was so easy to prove wrong.

And why are there 2 versions of the proposal story. Did they think we wouldn’t notice? Is one a Hollywood version for their American audience?

The same with the ‘how they met’ story - in their engagement interview they said it was a blind date, to Netflix they met on Instagram.

I also was puzzled at her saying she never wore bright colours and that royal women could never wear the same colour as the Queen. It’s just nonsense. See below pictures.

Why do they do this? My theory is that everything they do now is for an American audience who are used to the reality TV narrative of “Some scenes have been created for entertainment” style TV and just accept their narrative as partly fictional, as long as it’s entertaining?

Except literally nobody is abusing her for that. Or him. They have behaved badly; and to suggest they’re immune from criticism due to her being mixed race is racist. It infantilises POC

I wonder if Oprah feels a bit played by them

I suspect she does, this is an interesting take on it.

Please do call out racism - better yet, report it!

Is pointing out lies and bad behaviour now spewing hateful bile??
I'm sure politicians such as boris Johnson and Donald trump will be absolutely delighted that is the case!!!🙄

Where are you seeing racism?

Every single time with these threads - the only response Harry and Meghan fans have seems to be 1. You don't know them (we know what they say and how they behave and 2. Why do you care? (see 1).

So terribly sorry my ill health is making you feel sick. How awful to have such a weak stomach.

What was that you were saying about nastiness again??

I think the nastiness is just one way on here

Excellent, and so should we all - when it actually takes place that is, and not something we're accusing others of when there's no basis in fact in an attempt to shut down discussion about easily proven lies simply because we don't having those lies pointed out.

Oh, and remember to report them so that MN can delete them if they break talk guidelines. They police the site so that you don't have to.

If you read my posts I’ve answered this already

Yes. As a woman who was a millionaire in her own right with an entrepreneurial streak she will naturally (and often) take the lead. I also genuinely believe that Harry wanted to be loved and was desperate for kids of his own. I think he is more of a support act still which has its roots in the way he was a support act for the Monarchy. He has swapped out the Royal Family and replaced them with his own. Meghan leads though.

I hope one day the two brothers can reconcile. It would be great to see him support William properly. I do not think Meghan would want any part of that though. I think for Meghan as with many Americans dollar is king. She will continue to try and succeed in business. Harry, well he loves being with peeps so I guess we will see him doing just that and, of course, keeping a strong connection to the military through Scotty’s Little Soldiers and Invictus. The BBC was allowed in to cover his meet up with SLS. Harry was on point, highly relatable and just great. 😊 I saw what we have lost in a way.

I also think he will hang on for dear life to A and L in America. He is a hands on parent. He can’t risk parent alienation should the marriage ultimately crumble due to a basic incompatibility between H and M. Love wins but I think it is love wins for now.

@CantDealwithChristmas and @bridgerbelle

Grand posts.

I so wanted, really wanted H&M to be an asset in the Royal Family.

I had my doubts about the match in terms of how the RF will be so restrictive for M versus what she had been used to - forging an incredibly successful acting career and being 'outspoken'

If you think of the people (particularly the women) who have fitted in 'well' to the RF - Sophie, Kate, Tim - they are all 'grey,' they follow the party line, they only speak about causes at the time that the RF agrees and stay on point, they are private, they don't share opinions. In every sense, they are recessive to the monarch and their respective partners. Essentially, they know and accept their place within the RF machine & hierarchy.

To ask M to give up all that she had achieved & comply to the RF machinations I think was always unrealistic.
For H&M to believe the RF would bend to their will / change, particularly before the Queen had died (who was a stickler to protocol) was naive. I wish they had just toed the line until the Queen had died and then suggested some of their ideas - evolution not revolution.

Amen.

Harry is not nice but dim in my view.

Dim yes.

But by his own accounts that he put into a book he ridiculed his former matron who had scoliosis and mocked it- not onyl when he was 13 but when he was nearly 40. ide tified her enough that people could point to exactly who she was. He spoke about losing his virginity in a manner that meant the woman could be identified (and mis-identified with another woman) who then had to either deny or sit there and explain themselves otherwise the press would never leave them alone. neither of those things are the actions of a 'nice' person. he was notoriously difficult to handle when pissed up and would try and fight his own protection officers. People- again- who are in a position where they can't respond properly.

He's dim. he's also nasty, entitled and someone who apparently believes he is a good person. personally the gleeful recounting of his bullying if a disabled matron- shows his true self. Without reflection or even a glimmer of consciousness that this did not make him look very good.

Every other word of your post @ODFOx I agree with though 100%, just to add.

I think they are both utterly ghastly. Tone deaf and with an unpleasant approach to life.

No, and it's certainly not nice to make money out of revealing personal details of your loved ones, when you make such a song and dance of your own privacy. Hypocrite.
There's history with Wills and Pa at least, but Kate? What the hell did she do to deserve that?!
What a viper Harry is.

A Quick Look 👀 on the web will soon reveal how some men feel about her ‘background’. For them, it trumps her biracial beauty as she does not fit their idea of a woman to take home to mummy as
a wifey/princessy/ladymadonna.

How do you know the ethnicity of posters?

And the dearth of black voices on this thread should tell you how awful this thread is.

You don’t know that at all.

But I’ll give you a start. I am a woc.

Also, @bellezarara please point out the "covert racism".

@ThereAreNoSloesOnThere I agree Harry's own words make him look like a very unpleasant individual. I don't think that's incompatible with surface charm to a crowd on replanned walk about.

Indeed. Such an arrogant assumption!!

No, there are posts about H&M lies which you don't like and so you're throwing accusations of racism about (covert, natch, because you know that you don't have anything with which to substantiate that claim - you just let it sit there as a sort of 'gotcha').

As I said, the real thread police are only a click away via 'report' under each post.