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Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?

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YaMuvva · 28/05/2024 15:44

Starting with the porkie that Archie wasn’t gonna be titled. Anyone who understands the Letters Patent would know that as long as the Queen was alive this was never gonna happen. I said this when watching the Oprah interview and I’m pretty appalled they told such an easily provable lie.

Then Harry said that daddy cut his security off. Anyone who knows about RAVEC knows it is independent of the Royal Family and Charles couldn’t do this if he tried. Same with “Only titled people get security” / this was so easy to prove wrong.

And why are there 2 versions of the proposal story. Did they think we wouldn’t notice? Is one a Hollywood version for their American audience?

The same with the ‘how they met’ story - in their engagement interview they said it was a blind date, to Netflix they met on Instagram.

I also was puzzled at her saying she never wore bright colours and that royal women could never wear the same colour as the Queen. It’s just nonsense. See below pictures.

Why do they do this? My theory is that everything they do now is for an American audience who are used to the reality TV narrative of “Some scenes have been created for entertainment” style TV and just accept their narrative as partly fictional, as long as it’s entertaining?

Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?
Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?
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Makemydaypunk · 29/05/2024 01:28

Has the Bouzy bugle call gone out?

DingDingaling · 29/05/2024 01:30

keffie12 · 28/05/2024 17:24

Everything H & M has said has turned out to be true. When you take snapshots of everything and don't look at the whole story instead of just believing the British trash media, then you are going to be suckered into the media agenda.

One example is that the private wedding is true. It's a common thing to do in the U.S. Link below.

I'm going to give you a briefing (copy & paste) of the usual responses to this I get, as my only responses are below. Then I'm out of here.

I don't waste my time arguing with people who just want to slag them off and don't look at the whole story.

1/ I bet none of you who dislike them have read SPARE in its entirety. You will say you have. If you read that book, you would know they haven't told "porkies"

2/ If you watched all the Netflix series, you would know they were telling the truth.

3/ Racism: it started from the week H & M went public with their relationship. Comments about "exotic blood" and "almost straight out of comment" continued. H released a statement at 6 weeks to the press about it, telling them to stop. Then, the monkey picture after Archie was born and continuing.

4/ The media salaciousness to wreck the wedding by dragging Thomas Markle into it. He admitted that last year, the media said they wanted to stop the wedding.

5/ M has nothing to do with her Dad and 2 half siblings. Her dad played with the media. Do you think the RF would allow that.

I don't care what you think about what your daughter has done. You do not do what he did and talk to the press. Would you do it?

As for her 2 half siblings. Gutter trash. The brother has been in prison for armed robbery and domestic violence and has recently been seen in YouTube vids being racist.

Incidently, M is still in touch with her other family on her dad side. Cousins, etc. Thomas Markle doesn't bother with his other grandchildren.

6/ H & M never said the RF were racist. They said unconscious bias. That is different. It was the press who twisted it.

7/ The wedding: I've covered at the beginning. Link below

8/ The comments were concerns, not I wonder - about skin colour. Morgan outed who they were.

Morgan and Wooton, gross as they are both, said before the media was ordered to turn on them that the RF were racist.

9/ It was Kate that made Meghan cry.

10/ There is plenty of research evidence that H & M were subject to daily extreme racism from the public as well. Many were prosecuted. Look it up. It's there to be seen.

11/ Security was pulled by Charles, and why - read SPARE properly

12/ The media have admitted the leaking was coming firstly from BP, and then KP added on when all the rumours started about W affair. All to deflect from them onto H & M.

13/ H & M are much loved around the world, and they have a far larger following in the U.K than you realise.

14/ Take some time out to research properly more decent balanced media, like Byline and radio presenters like JOB

15/ As for H & M telling their story. Why shouldn't they. Everyone else is making up cr*p about them and divulging through "Royal sources" = royal family. The thousands of articles and books written about them by people who barely know them say it all

16/ The twisted truths and lies were going on about H before he met M. No one is saying they are perfect. No one is. However, the RF has played a massive part in this.

I could cover alot more areas however I've given you the general jist for you to moan, bitch and slate me off over. Enjoy! Over and out

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DingDingaling · 29/05/2024 01:47

I believe that some of the conversations that were had (and I suspect Charles had been talking about what he would do for decades) also centred on Charles’ reign. I think Harry related back to Meghan that it was possible that the Letters Patent would be further amended to exclude his children from being titled in the same way as his brother’s were by Charles. I suspect the only reason it did not happen in the end when Charles became the Monarch was due to the proverbial hitting the fan once Harry and Meghan decided to quit and all that has transpired since.

Crocodile? Not unbelievable. Son said elephant but pronounced it ‘lelfant’. Daughter said flamingo but pronounced it ‘lingo’.

Rippledipple · 29/05/2024 01:52

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LumpiBolleaux · 29/05/2024 01:13

I haven’t said you or anyone else is massively invested.

You made a statement that has been questioned. That is all.

And you can button it with the ‘you lot’. We are all capable of independent thought and just because some call out bullshit when we see it does not make anyone ‘off the scale’.

For your information, you have no idea about what is good for me or anyone else here so off you pop with your sweeping generalisations.

Doubling down when a statement is challenged just makes folk look twice as daft.

It is an art that I cannot celebrate but I do appreciate it. If only for the laughs.

Don't understand the last bit, do you mean you bully people for laughs? It's an art?

Yes you can question my statement, I answered it. Do you have Google? His interview with Gabor Mate received a log of coverage at the time. The one where HE WAS TOLD HE HAS ADHD

You're not invested, not at all. Sadly I am. I'm appalled and intrigued in equal measure. That's how I know it's not healthy. I expect you regulars have strong immunity, but seriously, it's bile.

DingDingaling · 29/05/2024 02:02

AnnieSF · 29/05/2024 01:02

She's a narcissist and he's thick.

Credentials?

Narcissist is a trope bandied about and is now so ubiquitous that it has no impact.

Read up on Harry’s achievements in training and coming top of the class. He believed he was thick. His military career showed him he wasn’t.

Fecked · 29/05/2024 03:17

BlueJamSandwich · 28/05/2024 16:30

It's a fairly common last word.

Haha that made me laugh thanks- especially on a night when I’ve been kept awake by teens and am in despair

Josette77 · 29/05/2024 03:33

I think lots of people like gossip, and H & M give us a lot to work with.

People insulting us aren't any better. You're here to be judgemental and tell us that we suck.

We're judging Harry and Meghan and saying they suck.

You see... You do know why we're here, because you like judging strangers too.

DreamTheMoors · 29/05/2024 03:41

YaMuvva · 28/05/2024 17:15

Probably the esker they get out of discussing literally anyone in their lives. Especially 2 people costing taxpayers money and who are doing untold damage to our worldwide reputation with their lies.

If someone is forcing you to be here against your will I suggest you call 101

The Sussexes aren’t costing “taxpayers” a farthing.

And since they live in California and have no connection to the UK at all any more (nor are they welcome), that “untold damage” is all in your mind. And it appears that it’s in many others’.

According to news outlets, their latest forays have been massively successful and well received, both in Nigeria and worldwide through the Invictus Games. Only the RF has not supported the British Invictus athletes. And it’s been commented on by many in the world press. The RF might think they’re punishing Harry, but they’re actually punishing the disabled athletes from the UK who take part in Invictus.

I couldn’t give a rat’s ass one way or the other about the Sussexes, but the bullies really get my back up.

When somebody makes a comment and your first instinct is to make a nasty and sarcastic remark, that’s a you problem.
This is an open forum - everyone is welcome.
It takes so little to be kind.
Why can’t you be?

PrestonHood121 · 29/05/2024 03:48

The one about her thinking Andrew was one the Queen’s assistants. Her pals dad. Sure. And the part in Spare about where Harry was when the Queen mum died. The secret wedding three days before. Aye ok.

DreamTheMoors · 29/05/2024 04:01

If the people here raking the Sussexes over the coals and making accusations and being rude and bringing up stuff from years ago, simply said

”I hate Meghan and Harry.”

It would save the rest of us a lot of unnecessary reading.

It’d probably make you feel better to get it off your chests, too.

You should see yourselves from my neutral eyes.

The online bullying on this thread is unbelievable.
I lost my sister to online & in-person bullying — it has consequences.
I’ll sit back and wait for the insults instead of the thoughtful posts about how words hurt.

slore · 29/05/2024 04:32

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therealcookiemonster · 29/05/2024 04:39

FanofLeaves · 28/05/2024 16:10

Also Harry reckons Archie’s first word was ‘crocodile’ and that is just unbelievable, of all the lies they tell this one always annoys me most for some reason 😆

my first word was supercallifragilisticexpialidocious

therealcookiemonster · 29/05/2024 04:40

my fav porkie was meghan had NO idea about the royal family, who they were, anything about them at all..... until very late in the relationship 😂

Genevieva · 29/05/2024 05:37

wordler · 28/05/2024 16:13

But the change to the title rules for William’s children was only made because they were changing the rule that male children automatically came before female children in the line of succession.

So the title change was to prevent a situation where if William’s firstborn has been a girl she would have been the heir, and unlike Anne no younger brother would be able to jump in front of her in the succession but under the old rules she would only have been titled Lady while a younger brother would have been Prince.

The Queen had 12 great grandchildren by the time she died. The only ones which were treated differently in terms of titles were the ones in the direct line via William.

Harry either didn’t explain this to Meghan properly or he still hadn’t really understood himself that once George was born, his path was more in line with his cousins rather than his brother. His kids were always going to be slightly more privileged because they would be grandchildren of a monarch at some point. But during the time they were complaining about they were still just 2 of 12 great-grandchildren.

Also, the trend for decades has been for British royals to eschew unnecessary titles. So Princess Anne refused a peerage for her husband and, by extension, a Lord / Lady title for her children. And Prince Edward chose not to have his children lumbered with the title Prince / Princess, instead styling them as the children of an Earl, not a Prince. Harry had said he wanted his children to be free of the trappings of royalty, so no one would have anticipated his jealousy of the arrangements for his brother’s children.

Isthisreasonable · 29/05/2024 05:48

Wouldn't it be quicker to list the statements they have made that can be verified?

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 29/05/2024 05:53

FanofLeaves · 28/05/2024 16:10

Also Harry reckons Archie’s first word was ‘crocodile’ and that is just unbelievable, of all the lies they tell this one always annoys me most for some reason 😆

Crocodile could be „pronounced“ as oco, c(r)oco, cocoday, ocoday, etc.

That’s one statement I actually find rather believable.

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 29/05/2024 05:59

Has the Bouzy bugle call gone out?

Oh stop. Not everyone who doesn’t think Meghan and Harry are devils incarnate are part of the Sussex Squad, or have anything to do with Bouzy.

Aposterhasnoname · 29/05/2024 05:59

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Ooo, this is a new one on me. Who’s the alleged paedo do tell. I’m completely fascinated. I mean, you can’t be talking about the one who allegedly slept with a 17 year old, because that’s not paedophilia, so who are you talking about?

LumpiBolleaux · 29/05/2024 05:59

Just because you do not understand my post does not entitle you to insinuate that I am a bully for the laughs.

You stated Harry was ND, then said he said it in an interview and are now saying he was told he had ADHD during an interview. That apparently was not after assessment but allegedly only based on the contents of Spare. The book that we are now being told isn’t entirely accurate because it is problematic visa wise. That is what Google is telling me.

I must have the same scanty version of Google that M had when she alleged she had no idea who H was. Or other members of the RF.

As for ‘you regulars’? How do you come to that conclusion? I have less of a posting history than you have under the names used on this thread.

I am not invested. I am interested.

But just not interested enough to argue with those who continue to insist they are correct when they have made questionable statements.

I haven’t the time, patience or inclination.

I do not, as a rule, engage in direct lengthy conversations with those I regard as foolish either. I disengage.

You may take the lack of response from me going forward as you will.

Isthisreasonable · 29/05/2024 06:02

The only verified one that comes to mind is the grim story about losing his virginity. His lack of concern for the woman involved knowing that the press would inevitably track her down and her privacy would be gone for good speaks volumes.

Lulooo · 29/05/2024 06:03

One of the things I found so unbelievable is when Megan said she didn’t know much about the royal family before marrying and the elaborate curtsies surprised and baffled her.

Come on. Really? Who doesn’t research their in-laws before getting married? Was she short of material? Did nothing come up on Google re the RF?? Any out of millions of videos online show the curtsies and it was bizarre that she suggested she knew nothing about the practices and customs of the RF. Especially as there was photographic evidence that she’d visited Buckingham Palace in her early teenage years too.

Polishedshoesalways · 29/05/2024 06:13

Narcissists will always lie to inflate their status and ego. They will be indifferent to anyone that has the audacity to point out the inconsistencies and claim it’s ’their Truth’ you genuinely can’t do anything with these people, apart from create distance. I feel very very sorry for their children, whom have no choice but to endure their childhoods with them (and their lies and toxicity)

SloaneStreetVandal · 29/05/2024 06:30

I think, at the very least, they're exaggeration prone. That interview Meghan did with The Cut is just astonishing.

I liked them both at first, and respected their decision to leave royal life. My opinion changed though when it became clear they weren't just going off to Canada to live a modest/simple life (the South Park 'privacy world tour' episode nails it 😂). It strikes me that Harry's petulance is because he hasn't been granted free rein; he wanted the benefit (financially) of being HRH without any of the obligation. It was very low of him to spread damaging gossip about his brother knowing William couldn't clap back (I've read the spare in it's entirety).

I think him and Meghan bring out the worst in each other, and they'll continue to trip themselves up for as long as they refuse to take advice from anyone other than sycophants.

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