Why do Harry and Meghan tell porkies that are so easy to prove wrong?

[YaMuvva]

Starting with the porkie that Archie wasn’t gonna be titled. Anyone who understands the Letters Patent would know that as long as the Queen was alive this was never gonna happen. I said this when watching the Oprah interview and I’m pretty appalled they told such an easily provable lie.

Then Harry said that daddy cut his security off. Anyone who knows about RAVEC knows it is independent of the Royal Family and Charles couldn’t do this if he tried. Same with “Only titled people get security” / this was so easy to prove wrong.

And why are there 2 versions of the proposal story. Did they think we wouldn’t notice? Is one a Hollywood version for their American audience?

The same with the ‘how they met’ story - in their engagement interview they said it was a blind date, to Netflix they met on Instagram.

I also was puzzled at her saying she never wore bright colours and that royal women could never wear the same colour as the Queen. It’s just nonsense. See below pictures.

Why do they do this? My theory is that everything they do now is for an American audience who are used to the reality TV narrative of “Some scenes have been created for entertainment” style TV and just accept their narrative as partly fictional, as long as it’s entertaining?

Regardless of what anyone thinks of them, it is the press that fuel the flames. If every minutiae of their lives wasn't reported on from all different angles, depending on the newspaper in question, we wouldn't even know about half of it. They wanted out, they got out, they are living the American dream, let's leave them to it!

No, @moose62 - it is not the press.
Every single one of those many lies on this thread has actually been said by Harry or Meghan.
These have been said in the many, many interviews and tv shows. By Harry and Meghan.

I wish they would live "The American Dream".
Just stop with the lies and making money from invading other people's privacy.

You're right, @Italianita . Always.
However, that doesn't address the very strange problem OP posted about why Harry and Meghan lie, when they get found out so easily?
I have no idea why, I just think it would be nice if they just lead their lives without making up all this nonsense.

I don’t hate Harry and Megan, that’s a very strong emotion for anyone to feel about a stranger. I dislike the behaviour and find it both a little disturbing and quite fascinating.

I am curious though on the point the op raised, the consistent lying and misleading the public. I understand they do it to make themselves look a certain way… good, innocent, a victim, and to paint Harry’s family as the bad guys. The issue is it is often very easily provable lies as the op says, and a lot of it completely unnecessary.

Let’s take the recent one as an example. Over Charles nd Harry not seeing each other. I understand he didn’t wish to admit he refused to see his father , but he could have said something generic, like it didn’t work diary wise this time, but he didn’t. He full on lied and said Charles didn’t have time to see him. It was ridiculous and pointless, as well as vindictive.

im glad Charles is now correcting, he has to show some back bone and stop the mistruths Harry is spreading, Harry is no longer a child, he’s knocking on 40, and the only way to stop it, is for Harry to know there is a risk that Charles will no longer permit it and correct it. It’s clear when Harry thinks Charles will let him away with it, he will lie and blame others for his own behaviour.

whuch is a curious position for a man so upset on anyone saying mistruths.

Why is it immature?

My thoughts exactly

Was that a klaxon o heard go off?

Is it "mean spirited" to talk about lies?

If they did not want to be discussed as liars, surely the correct course of action is not to tell multiple variants of same thing (eg first words, relationship history) or not to assert things that are demonstrably untrue (whereabouts at time of Queen Mother's death, bike rides with father) or not to be so unclear that an Archbishop feels the need to issue a statement about his role

But no, I don't have any idea why they do it

*sulk.

You haven’t upset people but behaving so self righteously when you’re so very wrong is perhaps something to not do in the future. Grown adults don’t like being treated like naughty children. HTH

He was ridiculously spoilt, entitled and not bright. She thought being a Princess was going to be like the movies. Both were disappointed and thought they held all the cards. When it didn't work out the way they wanted they threw and continue to throw strops. All of this is for attention.

We have so many pressing issues in England it annoys me that they get any coverage at all.

I feel grubby. Don't you all feel like that? As I say it's not healthy.

No. Why would discussion two publicly funded liars make anyone feel grubby?? I don’t feel grubby when talking about lying MPs either

I profoundly apologise to all the PPs who I inadvertently mislead with the untrue information and for the rage it induced. I will not post again until I have done a thorough fact check and verified my sources (think this goes above and beyond Sky news to TBF)

I've really upset a lot of people. Christ is almost like you were all sitting there waiting to get a sniff of someone without as much hate in their heart so you could rip them to shreds

Yes, that's what lies do. Upset people. And people who lie get called out on it.

Not because there's "hate in their heart" but because truth matters

It wasn't rage, it was pointing out that what you'd posted was simply not true.

You've apologised. The Sussexes have lied over many things, but there is no hint of an apology.

I don't say that because of hate - but because it is what happened.

Assuming it must be hate, suggests to me that the action of repeated lies is considered shameful and therefore hateful. And that is turned on people who note the actions, not where it belongs on the actions themselves

The Sussexes aren’t costing “taxpayers” a farthing.

Of course they are!!! They still use resources in the royal household, they still require security when here and he’s just cost taxpayers £500k with his litigious tantrum over security that he may not even pay back.

And since they live in California and have no connection to the UK at all any more (nor are they welcome), that “untold damage” is all in your mind. And it appears that it’s in many others’.

Their fan club circulating rumours about William and Catherine is not only harmful but led to the poor cancer stricken woman having to make an announcement she isn’t dead but instead had to share her health diagnosis. Not that the ‘squaddies’ believed her. And for such prolific anti-bully campaigners who stomped their feet when some journalists were meanies, they’re very quiet over people being such aggressive bullies in their name

Only the RF has not supported the British Invictus athletes.

Why would they?? It’s Harry’s charity.

When somebody makes a comment and your first instinct is to make a nasty and sarcastic remark, that’s a you problem.**

Such as?

It takes so little to be kind.
Why can’t you be?

im very kind.

I don’t think calling out liars is unkind. Should we only be holding hands and singing Kum by ya like Proper Ladies?

Lol untold damage...where is your proof? What evidence do you have to show its caused untold damage? Or is this just your perception

Not sure what PP means by 'Only the RF has not supported the British Invictus athletes.'

Do you mean every other person on the planet supports Invictus, just not the rf because they're meanies who don't care about injured servicemen and women or do you mean the rf aren't obviously supporting the charity in the UK? That could well be because they recognise it's pretty much all Harry has now and don't want to tread on his toes. Can you imagine the Sussex Squad meltdown if the rf did do anything to overtly support Invictus? There'd be uproar.

I don’t like liars - simple. And no ‘my truth’ isn’t necessarily ‘the truth’.

I don’t hate them.

Hate requires passion and is very close to love, and I don’t have those kind of feelings towards them.

Who’s bullying who?? Harry and Meghan are two grown ups who happily put themsleves on the worlds stage and behave terribly at times. Do you REALLY think no one should ever be able to criticise them? I don’t want to live in a world where people who lie and first never ever get it called out. Do you?

And as a PP said - if you wanna see online bullying go on X and Celebitchy and see what they say about a woman with cancer. But I bet you already partake in that. Given a sudden exodus of ‘OMG be kind to Megzy!’ Posters have suddenly hopped onto MN in the early hours.

Mine was antidisestablishmentarianism

That doesn't explain the equal criticism I see coming from men though.

The press is driven by their very own PR and communications department (s). How many PR people do they have working for them now? They are issuing announcements, making statements, distributing photoshopped photos, all directly from the Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex'. Just look at all the influencer PR they employed to flog a few jars of jam.

They have a fully staffed highly paid PR team, not only in the US, but in Europe and RoW too, they are not scrimping on their PR. That doesn't even touch on the likes of Scobie who they feed info to for unofficial PR,, or the likes of Bouzy who they hired to produce a false report to support more PR. On top of that, they regularly organise interviews, the famous book, the 8 episode series, paid awards. That is all before the Nigeria trip PR offensive, which has now crumbled in full public view.

It was their PR department, on behalf of Harry, who recently issued what has since been shown to be an inaccurate statement about the King being too busy with other priorities to see H. It was their PR department who issued the wildly inaccurate statement about the deadly NY car chase. Of course they will get ridiculed, create column inches and commentary about PR releases like that.

They are the biggest manipulators of the press and the public, and a lot of it is so inept it leaves them open to ridicule and disbelief and gives the public and the press plenty of opportunity to observe first hand their lies, exaggerations and self promotion.

Not everyone is fooled by the notion that it is the media fueling the flames.

You couldn't make up the shenanigans and the lies they are involved in and they themselves are the ones exposing themselves.

They are correct, so what is the problem?
if you want to moan about the royal family why not stick with the main players? They are ripping off tax payers as the biggest welfare spongers.

I have saved your post. Bloody brilliant last 2 paragraphs. I may need to steal them in the future. I’m feeling lighter already. 😁

Since when has he been neurodiverse?

@Jetstream but the point is that they are not correct, they habitually lie.