Nigeria?

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Can this be true? That Harry and Meghan are off on a “royal” trip to Nigeria? What’s the game now? My head is spinning!

The trouble is, they don't have diplomatic skills, they have no consideration or sensitivity, so it will just be yet another exercise in fashion and self aggrandisiment.
They won't care how much it costs, they desperately need to be photographed and to have these quasi royal engagements.
So it'll be about them, not Nigeria.

I also want them to be safe . They have 2 small children .

I hope they are safe and I’m sure they will be if they are with the military in relation to Invictus. I think it will indeed be a heavily curated visit so as to only show them in a positive light. Hopefully, Harry won’t go anywhere near anything controversial about which he doesn’t really know anything, but I’m not holding my breath

I am in no doubt that there will be heavy security in Nigeria, just as there is when he comes to the UK, but there will not be the Charles, William level of security that apparently is the difference in his needs to bring his family to the UK. I just assuming he’s dropping the court of appeal.

The Duke of Duchess?! 😂 someone has a sense of humour…..!
Didn’t see this at first but it’s been pointed out and is now trending!

The Duke of Duchess is hysterical 😁 sounds like our Nigerian scam lords are on to it.

Today is William and Catherine's wedding anniversary, they should publish a never before seen photo from their wedding day. That would compete with the Duke of Duchess Nigeria news.

My husband has had a few trips to Lagos, as others have said, picked up at the airport by a convoy of armed security and brought straight to the company compound. We had expat friends who lived there and enjoyed their time.

I imagine H&M will be going to Abuja, which is somewhat safer, they may be brought from airport to wherever by military helicopter rather than road, in advance of their visit every poor sod who they even think looked in the direction of a Nigerian bandit will be rounded up and disappeared.

I've noticed "His Royal Highness" is being used again.
There's a surprise.

Do you remember him making noises on behalf of his father to the First Nations people in Canada? Definitely don't hold your breath.

Harry will say what he wants to say.
That's the level of arrogance and entitlement we're dealing with here.

You would hope Isolde that the institution would choose to officially distance themselves from this visit and any future visits.

Hopefully, Harry won’t go anywhere near anything controversial about which he doesn’t really know anything, but I’m not holding my breath

As for this Smilesy? The worrying thing is that he doesn’t appear to have the intelligence to understand what might be controversial. He won’t have someone to provide guidance about how to conduct himself. It is doubtful he would listen to guidance anyway.

Doing things with a good heart is to be commended.

The thing is, most of his actions come with an unhealthy fuck you to the Royal Family. And that, to date, hasn’t led him down the most sensible of roads.

That is entirely, and completely his approach, @ArcaneWireless .
It's very damaging and very cruel.

Oh, I am sure nations with agendas see him coming a mile off, and know he's too thick or malicious to care about dropping his father and the British government into diplomatic embarrassment. Much like the Jamaican president saw him coming. And who is looking on in glee? China and Russia, always ready to get a toe hold or more into poor nations letting go of traditional political and economic allegiances.

I agree that they will have armed security in Nigeria, so probably it will be very safe for them. However, I doubt the security will just tag along with them for any 'side' visits, so their movements will be quite constrained.

For them to visit a Commonwealth nation on a pseudo royal tour does seem like a potential diplomatic incident in the making. If they are addressed as HRH then that would definitely be crossing a line.

Once again posting Mark Toth's article about dangers of H & M.

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4426960-harry-and-meghan-knives-out-in-jamaica/

I've always been a bit baffled by the inclusion in 2022 to the 'Invictus family' by Harry and the committee of Nigeria, Colombia and Israel. These countries have some really questionable militaries.

It does feel like Invictus is all about the expansion and, dare I say, 'empire building', and less about the ethics and desire to acknowledge service in the defence of democratic values.

There is no way Harry has the diplomatic thinking skills to navigate an in-depth conversation around these issues.

Other countries in the 'Invictus family' include Afghanistan and Iraq, with what looks like sporadic attendance.

Is Invictus membership and Harry's 'royal patronage' being used to legitimise and Invictus-wash the reputations some problematic regimes and militaries? There's some stuff on the Invictus Foundation website that either suggests just that, and/or is shockingly naive.

I wonder what the Foreign Office makes of this.

Harry seems hell bent on embarrassing and damaging the UK and the RF as much as possible. This is the longest toddler tantrum of all time, what a deeply unpleasant and toxic man he turned out to be.

Harry was given Invictus by the RF, but of course, he never gives them credit.
As with all these organisations, there will be questions raised about some of the participants. Harry has neither the wit nor the drive to deal with this. His wife's focus seems to be on her outfits.

Harry and Invictus may face protests at the Games in Vancouver in Feb 2025. He needs to take advice on how deal with these for everyone involved and not just himself and his wife. I hope he is thinking about the host community, competitors, spectators, franchisees, camera crews and journalists, and the protesters themselves, and their safety, comfort and rights, as well as sustainability and legacy.

For example, 'Pro-Palestine' and 'eco-justice' networks are operating on many university campuses and are actively burgeoning, eg at Vancouver, Toronto and McGill, Montreal, and growing in number.

And if Harry and Invictus haven't fully understood the costs and complexity of such a safe and equitable security set-up that will now be needed to keep any protesters suitably at bay without violating their considerable constitutional rights - Canada is no Nigeria - then the Games could be negatively affected. And, as ever, the question remains - who's paying for all this?

Nothing, he lives in the us, is not a working royal and it’s effectively a private engagement due to invictus. They will think no more of it than if Nicole Kidman decided to swim naked down the Congo, it’s absolutely nothing to do with the foreign office,

Nicole Kidman does not hold UK royal titles, has not worked for, and been funded by the UK government. She does not promote herself as a royal, nor does she undertake quasi royal duties.
It is completely different.

Invictus is all Harry and Megan have. Everything else so far has failed, there is currently nothing left. So they will cling to it and try to build it and leverage it as much as they can.

Very true about Invictus. They will cling to that, for sure.

Not quite.

Nicole Kidman is Australian and does not hold British royal titles. She does not purport to have an 'office' related to a British royal peerage.

You are of course correct in saying that Harry and Meghan are private citizens and do not represent the Monarchy or the United Kingdom. However, they do love to blur the lines and will definitely treat this as a pseudo 'royal' tour. I think this 'tour' will be causing raised eyebrows in the FCO.

Yes it id all they have, and specifically to give them a profile, and allow them to play at being royal. Everything else had failed.

now sure there is a polo program, a potential cooking program, a lifestyle brand and a film, but the success of these remains to be seen.

so they need to leverage and build invictus as much as possible for leverage. I’m not quite sure Nigeria is ideal to be honest in terms of optics,the rich thing in such poverty , as well as the security risks.but beggars can’t be choosers and I don’t think many countries will be asking harry and Megan to do this.