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William Threatened Tatler and Camilla's niece help plant story

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WhatAreThey · 24/04/2024 12:27

In the audio, the journo explains what happened when she referred to Kate as being thin.
William rang Tatler and The Daily Mail, arranged lunch with them and his staff to plant stories.
Camilla's niece who works at Tatler helped him twisted the true position to be favourable to William and Kate.

She says no British print media is allowed to say anything negative about Kate or William. The negative stories must be about Harry and Meghan.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5jImF0sAfp/?igsh=MzRraTBxZDViNGRt

This is democracy in 21st century Britain.

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Devonisheaven · 29/04/2024 14:54

I won’t go on labouring the point but I think it’s clear that I was finding the discrepancy in the number of threads about H and M, and the number about Liz Truss, to be puzzling, when arguably LT losing the amount of money she did and increasing all of our mortgages, had much more of a direct affect on all of us than the actions of the second son of the RF and his wife.

In case you hadn’t noticed this is the Royal Family section, if I want to discuss Liz Truss I will head over to the Political section. Is what about Liz Truss the new what about Andrew?

Remembermetoonewholivedthere · 29/04/2024 14:58

MummyJ12 · 29/04/2024 14:47

I care about bullying.
The bullying of a very poorly Princess of Wales. Hounded until she was forced to make that public announcement. Even then, the bullying of her and her family did not and has not stopped.
The bullying of others at the hands of those African Parks rangers including the rape and torture of victims (And the silence that has followed the scandal).
The bullying and harassment of journalists, at least one of whom apparently had their house set on fire because they spoke out against the Sussexes. (And other journalists who were paid off with astronomical sums of money).
The bullying of normal people on social media who dare have a positive view of our Royal Family.
On this thread alone, Prince William has been targeted with untruthful comments, and posters on here accused of being immature; unreasonable and incapable of a civilised discussion. None of this is warranted but unfortunately it illustrates the kind of tactics and behaviour that we have come to expect. Like I posted yesterday. It’s exhausting. So many genuine questions in these posts go unanswered on these threads and it’s because the indefensible can’t be defended.

I deliberately didn’t mention the term bullying but you are of course entitled to feel strongly about the things you have listed above MummyJ12 and I believe you.

All I am asking is that people who have alternative views to the majority on here are heard too.

Devonisheaven · 29/04/2024 14:58

MummyJ12 · 29/04/2024 14:47

I care about bullying.
The bullying of a very poorly Princess of Wales. Hounded until she was forced to make that public announcement. Even then, the bullying of her and her family did not and has not stopped.
The bullying of others at the hands of those African Parks rangers including the rape and torture of victims (And the silence that has followed the scandal).
The bullying and harassment of journalists, at least one of whom apparently had their house set on fire because they spoke out against the Sussexes. (And other journalists who were paid off with astronomical sums of money).
The bullying of normal people on social media who dare have a positive view of our Royal Family.
On this thread alone, Prince William has been targeted with untruthful comments, and posters on here accused of being immature; unreasonable and incapable of a civilised discussion. None of this is warranted but unfortunately it illustrates the kind of tactics and behaviour that we have come to expect. Like I posted yesterday. It’s exhausting. So many genuine questions in these posts go unanswered on these threads and it’s because the indefensible can’t be defended.

Great post ! no doubt your points won’t be commented on, that’s always the way when the ‘why do you care’ trope is asked, the reasons we care are listed, then go completely ignored and unacknowledged, then the ‘why do you care’ starts all over again.

Runnerinthenight · 29/04/2024 14:58

Remembermetoonewholivedthere · 29/04/2024 13:55

What I am bored with is the disdainful way that everyone treats opposing opinions on here.

Sorry but imho it demonstrates a certain, unbalanced, desperation imho for so many people to be welded so closely to a narrow, rather hateful rhetoric centred around the loathing of two people whom none of us know in person!

Even if you think they have lied or acted incorrectly, why does it matter to you so much? What are you trying to defend so energetically? An institution that is barely aware of your existence?

Doesn't it strike any of you as, well, a little odd?

Why do you all care so much unless you are paid by PR companies working for the palace 😀😀 or you are being unduly influenced by the tabloid press?

If nothing else, I am sure social anthropologists will have a field day reviewing these threads in a hundred years time!

Right back at you!

smilesy · 29/04/2024 14:59

Remembermetoonewholivedthere · 29/04/2024 14:52

Thank you for saying that people are entitled to different opinions. I appreciate it. Because often on here it feels like you can’t freely express an alternative view to the majority.

Quite a few of us have said that actually but we agree with Puzzled in that holding a different opinion is not the same as making up our own facts. Do you agree with this part of Puzzled’s post too?

Remembermetoonewholivedthere · 29/04/2024 14:59

Devonisheaven · 29/04/2024 14:58

Great post ! no doubt your points won’t be commented on, that’s always the way when the ‘why do you care’ trope is asked, the reasons we care are listed, then go completely ignored and unacknowledged, then the ‘why do you care’ starts all over again.

I have just commented on it thank you Devonisheaven

Remembermetoonewholivedthere · 29/04/2024 15:01

smilesy · 29/04/2024 14:59

Quite a few of us have said that actually but we agree with Puzzled in that holding a different opinion is not the same as making up our own facts. Do you agree with this part of Puzzled’s post too?

I didn’t reply to that, no, because I don’t know what happened precisely, except of course that there has been a schism between H and M and the RF, so I don’t know what “facts” are true or not.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 29/04/2024 15:04

All I am asking is that people who have alternative views to the majority on here are heard too.

You are heard. What you actually want is not to be challenged.

Devonisheaven · 29/04/2024 15:04

All I am asking is that people who have alternative views to the majority on here are heard too.

It doesn’t come across that way in your recent posts, you have just attacked people for posting about H&M full stop using the ridiculous ‘why do you care’ you know full why, it’s been explained to you time and time again. How about actually engaging with the points raised, and also tell us your alternative view so we can debate your opinion rather than you trying to shut people down.

Devonisheaven · 29/04/2024 15:06

Remembermetoonewholivedthere · 29/04/2024 14:59

I have just commented on it thank you Devonisheaven

You have acknowledged that post, how about debating the points raised?

LaMarschallin · 29/04/2024 15:07

Devonisheaven · 29/04/2024 14:11

It’s the Bouzy bugle call!

He's the Bouzy-Wouzy bugle boy of Sussex Squad B🎵

ArcaneWireless · 29/04/2024 15:09

Alternative views are heard.

But when an explanation or reason or thought is given, it is generally ignored and the same old statement is repeated in return.

I see no point in conversing with those who chose not to read what I have posted, invent their own narrative and refuse to discuss any explanation or reasoning given.

It is pointless.

Cheerio. Until next time.

Runnerinthenight · 29/04/2024 15:11

Remembermetoonewholivedthere · 29/04/2024 15:01

I didn’t reply to that, no, because I don’t know what happened precisely, except of course that there has been a schism between H and M and the RF, so I don’t know what “facts” are true or not.

Well if you don't know, why are you arguing over it with people who can see what is plainly in front of them?! If I "don't know" about something, I shut up!

BoohooWoohoo · 29/04/2024 15:14

There are a lot of rumours when it comes to the royals and not-so royals but if you’re going to lie (the royal you) then don’t add verifiable details like Meghan was on the front pages of every paper. It is a fact that on the day in question, Trump was on the cover of every newspaper. I assume that lawyers checking the manuscript don’t go so deep that they may tell Harry that he’s clearly made an error.

There’s other Sussex inconsistencies that can be proven wrong or contradictory to what the pair have said in the past. I reckon that this is why “Never complain” makes sense - people can’t make references to what has been said in the past and make use it to criticise or attack. Speaking out might feel more natural to the Sussexes as they may be more extrovert than the Wales’ but it provides material for people to speculate over.

smilesy · 29/04/2024 15:15

Remembermetoonewholivedthere · 29/04/2024 15:01

I didn’t reply to that, no, because I don’t know what happened precisely, except of course that there has been a schism between H and M and the RF, so I don’t know what “facts” are true or not.

I have told you three times what happened. Harry wrote in his book”Spare” about something happening that demonstrably did not happen as evidenced by photos featured in this thread. As is the extract that is contradicted by them. I’m not sure how much more you need it explaining and pointing out, but as you clearly do not want to acknowledge or understand, so be it

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SuziQuinto · 29/04/2024 15:16

Harry is like those drivers on those police chase shows.
They are clocked speeding, it's on camera, there's incontrovertible evidence but they still deny it!
I'm always impressed at how calm the police are at dealing with such outrageous liars!

SuziQuinto · 29/04/2024 15:17

"I was going at 40mph"
"We saw you doing 110mph , sir"
"No, no, no!"

SuziQuinto · 29/04/2024 15:19

smilesy · 29/04/2024 15:15

I have told you three times what happened. Harry wrote in his book”Spare” about something happening that demonstrably did not happen as evidenced by photos featured in this thread. As is the extract that is contradicted by them. I’m not sure how much more you need it explaining and pointing out, but as you clearly do not want to acknowledge or understand, so be it

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Don't bother, Smilesy.
We know what Harry & Meghan say what happened, then what actually happened.

Remembermetoonewholivedthere · 29/04/2024 15:27

smilesy · 29/04/2024 15:15

I have told you three times what happened. Harry wrote in his book”Spare” about something happening that demonstrably did not happen as evidenced by photos featured in this thread. As is the extract that is contradicted by them. I’m not sure how much more you need it explaining and pointing out, but as you clearly do not want to acknowledge or understand, so be it

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But none of us know for sure when those photos were taken or whether they are genuine photos?
Photographs nowadays do not automatically qualify as “facts”.

There was a story in a newspaper recently that the choir master, Gareth Malone, had refused an invitation to stage a musical event at one of the christenings of H and M’s children. He clarified that the story was entirely fabricated!

We do know for sure however that press outlets make money from publishing hundreds of negative stories about Meghan because clicks can be encouraged by appealing to people’s basest instincts.

And who cares whether the wife of the second son wears Wellies or not or which entrances to KP she used? Maybe she was lost? Maybe she was meeting someone! No one knows.

Some people like to give others the benefit of the doubt and some don’t. Really, it all boils down to that! But none of us can claim to know unless we were there!

SuziQuinto · 29/04/2024 15:34

Well, I wasn't there for the signing of the Treaty of Versailles, but I know it happened.
I didn't learn about it from the Daily Mail, either.

OneHeartySnail · 29/04/2024 15:34

none of us can claim to know unless we were there

We had better get rid of history degrees.

And journalism in general.

And politicians can't be held accountable, because unless we saw and heard what they did/said first hand, we can't form an opinion.

SuziQuinto · 29/04/2024 15:36

Quite, @OneHeartySnail .
I think Harry and Meghan would like critical analysis to disappear and stop folks asking pesky questions about the truth!

ArcaneWireless · 29/04/2024 15:44

Ignore me.

I’m not here either.

Fuck knows what the dog thinks she is sitting on.

Devonisheaven · 29/04/2024 15:47

Some people like to give others the benefit of the doubt and some don’t. Really, it all boils down to that! But none of us can claim to know unless we were there!

Does this go for everything in life? Nothing can be factual unless you were there? No doubt if some of us were there you would argue that our eyes play tricks on us and seeing not believing. I see you have ignored requests to debate the points raised, I now think you are deliberately being disingenuous and are not posting in good faith.

Remembermetoonewholivedthere · 29/04/2024 15:50

Devonisheaven · 29/04/2024 15:47

Some people like to give others the benefit of the doubt and some don’t. Really, it all boils down to that! But none of us can claim to know unless we were there!

Does this go for everything in life? Nothing can be factual unless you were there? No doubt if some of us were there you would argue that our eyes play tricks on us and seeing not believing. I see you have ignored requests to debate the points raised, I now think you are deliberately being disingenuous and are not posting in good faith.

I am attending an on-line meeting now thank you.

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