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TMZ Producer says it ‘might not’ be Kate!

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Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 04:14

So after days of so many of us saying it is not Catherine, and being screamed at, shut down and called ‘crazies’ and ‘trolls’ and all kinds of offensive names. It turns out we were right after all. It does not appear to be Cathrrine (no shock there for many of us) According to the producer that beamed this out across the world. Clearly unverified. Incredible that the news outlets just went along with it - no questions asked. What does that say about the quality of our journalism?

It was a huge gas lighting exercise.

So now we know we have one fake Mother’s Day photo and now one fake farm shop footage - it begs the question in a much more pressing way - where is Catherine? The stupid memes have to stop. This isn’t funny or anything to joke about.

No one can verify even a single shot ( I am discounting the photo of Pippa in the car with Carole, and someone’s head in the car turned away in windsor)

I don’t believe we are going to see Catherine this Easter or at any time soon. I don’t know where she is, or what has happened to her but I feel extremely worried for her.

I await Kensington Palace’s statement - it’s about time we learnt the truth. How can it be any worse than what has been speculated?

What will happen next? As this can not continue any longer.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/kate-middleton-farm-shop-video-32398541.amp

Kate Middleton farm shop video 'isn't her' claims TMZ producer who bought clip

The Princess Kate saga continues to rumble on as the executive producer from TMZ cast their own doubt on whether the farm clip was actually her, despite running the footage

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/kate-middleton-farm-shop-video-32398541.amp

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Mirabai · 21/03/2024 12:10

user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 12:02

Exactly, that's my point. They never confirm tabloid stories, even make a point of being snooty about it, but they do brief endlessly off the record. The Sun got the green light to run the video and that was the palace's verification/confirmation right there.

This isn’t a tabloid story anymore, it’s been run by the BBC. There’s an important distinction between unofficially endorsing it - ie allowing it to run, and officially confirming it on record. KP and Buck House do release statements of fact.

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 12:12

friendlycat · 21/03/2024 11:58

But OP you have decided it is a fake video, that doesn't mean it is.

If KP go onto confirm that it was W & C they then set themselves up for the future that they will need to respond to every unauthorised photo/video that is taken by a Pap or member of the public. By not confirming (but not denying either) they just maintain a dignified silence.

Otherwise they end up in the situation that somebody pointed out long ago on this thread ....

Yes that video is of POW shopping in John Lewis
No that photo is not POW having lunch with a friend in Nandos
Yes that photo of POW shopping in her local farm shop with her husband is genuine.
No that photo of etc etc etc is, or is/not genuine etc etc etc

I give some credence to the executive producer who circulated the original footage, if he is doubtful then it is likely it is not them. It looks nothing like her for one.

Yes KP have an issue short term with an information vacuum they themselves created.

It would be wise given Catherine’s status to have followed the same strategy as Buckingham Palace, and offered minimal but honest regular updates. No photos. No footage. No car shots. Nothing. Just regular updates that she has recovered as expected and looks forward to her return etc etc.

Why is it so hard to just do that? So impossible for them to make simple updates and control the narrative?

Why cover and smear by producing fake photos and allowing trashy media sites to run riot with said narrative?

This is not exactly creating mystique, but really a run away Katie Price type of gritty unpleasant cat and mouse theatrics that the RF should have been able to rise above with relative ease. Who is in KP calling the shots? They seem to lack the finesse to handle this situation with the dignity and care it deserves.

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user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 12:12

That's based on a Times article from a few days ago, which said when KP referred to her returning to work after Easter, it always meant after the Easter school holidays. This is from the original article.

TMZ Producer says it ‘might not’ be Kate!
Vohgue · 21/03/2024 12:14

Thanks Bookmark1111 I was confused by all the posters saying "we'll see in 2 weeks!" ...

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 12:14

user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 12:12

That's based on a Times article from a few days ago, which said when KP referred to her returning to work after Easter, it always meant after the Easter school holidays. This is from the original article.

I think most of the public will be expecting to see her at the Easter service as normal, next weekend.

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Inkanta · 21/03/2024 12:15

So Kensington Palace are quick to leak that someone tried to log on to Kate's medical file but won't leak that BBC got it wrong broadcasting that W&K were at a farm shop.

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 12:15

Inkanta · 21/03/2024 12:15

So Kensington Palace are quick to leak that someone tried to log on to Kate's medical file but won't leak that BBC got it wrong broadcasting that W&K were at a farm shop.

My thoughts exactly. It’s so transparent

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Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 12:18

I am not sure how wise it is to make that so public either. Does that mean that one of the medics was successful and the Spanish tabloid stories are correct?

All of this leaking is simply feeding the speculation. It feels deliberate. They can’t honestly be this useless surely??

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user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 12:18

Mirabai · 21/03/2024 12:10

This isn’t a tabloid story anymore, it’s been run by the BBC. There’s an important distinction between unofficially endorsing it - ie allowing it to run, and officially confirming it on record. KP and Buck House do release statements of fact.

They probably don't want to fuel the hysteria. If they release a statement saying 'Yes, that was Kate, and she was carrying a bag of sourdough bread and asparagus' it wouldn't quell the conspiracy theorists who are adamant it's not her in the video. It would make the online stuff a million times worse, with KP accused of outright lies. So I imagine they've reached the point of 'sod it, what's the point, anything we say will be misconstrued, let's leave them to their tin foil sculpting.' Letting the hysteria blow itself out is probably the only sensible PR approach now.

jeffgoldblum · 21/03/2024 12:19

smilesy · 21/03/2024 11:29

If there are personal attacks, then report them. The mistake the op made was to start this thread in AIBU,so there were far less posters who were or the same mind as them. Now it’s on the RF board, those who think like them have reappeared. This would suggest to me that the majority of people not on the RF board think that the op is incorrect

Indeed!

Oakstreet · 21/03/2024 12:20

areyoutheregod · 21/03/2024 10:44

Jesus Christ, I tried to catch up on the whole thread but its full of unpleasant posts directed at the OP and its absolutely not remotely 'in the spirit of MN'. @Severalwhippets I really urge you to report every single personal attack, despite thinking its not usually necessary, this constant attack on you is not ok.

As for this: FGS the Mothers Day photo was edited, doesn't mean it was fake. The kill notice was probably about driving more traffic to the Reuters website.

IT WAS A FAKE PHOTO. Several agencies killed it and various experts have confirmed pixel manipulation and Kate being added into a photo. That is a fake. William did not take that photo because that photo does not exist. This is an extraordinary level of deception when it was not necessary to do so. When the palace goes to this length to try and deceive us, there is going to be a reason. The reason is not 'Kate is recovering' or "Kate is being bullied'. If they can stay quiet about accusations of racism, they can stay quiet during her so-called recovery for a few months. There is a reason they tried to deceive us. Its absolutely reasonable for people to ask what that is.

One of the best posts I've read. I'm shocked anyone believes the bad quality farm video by a bystander, a dad is real, who was paid 200k by the propaganda tool media The Sun! The Sun!

PinkTonic · 21/03/2024 12:20

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 12:18

I am not sure how wise it is to make that so public either. Does that mean that one of the medics was successful and the Spanish tabloid stories are correct?

All of this leaking is simply feeding the speculation. It feels deliberate. They can’t honestly be this useless surely??

They haven’t leaked it, the story came from the hospital and KP have said it’s a matter for the hospital.

user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 12:20

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 12:14

I think most of the public will be expecting to see her at the Easter service as normal, next weekend.

I do think she'll appear, but only because she's being forced to by the endless speculation. Which is appalling, she should've been able to see out her medical leave.

EasternStandard · 21/03/2024 12:21

user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 12:18

They probably don't want to fuel the hysteria. If they release a statement saying 'Yes, that was Kate, and she was carrying a bag of sourdough bread and asparagus' it wouldn't quell the conspiracy theorists who are adamant it's not her in the video. It would make the online stuff a million times worse, with KP accused of outright lies. So I imagine they've reached the point of 'sod it, what's the point, anything we say will be misconstrued, let's leave them to their tin foil sculpting.' Letting the hysteria blow itself out is probably the only sensible PR approach now.

I don’t blame them for not confirming, we’d be run ragged with press releases on it’s not them

They can stand away from it but I don’t understand BBC position if they stated it was them without knowing

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 12:21

Their boss is William they work for him, is this his doing? Why would he wish to sabotage Catherine in this way?

The more this goes on the less likely it looks like bungling and more of a strategy to look useless but with a firm outcome in mind. Don’t they have a horrid misogynistic term for it like the ‘dumb blonde’ strategy?

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IcedPurple · 21/03/2024 12:23

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 12:21

Their boss is William they work for him, is this his doing? Why would he wish to sabotage Catherine in this way?

The more this goes on the less likely it looks like bungling and more of a strategy to look useless but with a firm outcome in mind. Don’t they have a horrid misogynistic term for it like the ‘dumb blonde’ strategy?

You are the one claiming that Kate is helpless and depends on William to do everything for her.

You're absolutely desperate for a scandal, aren't you?

user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 12:23

EasternStandard · 21/03/2024 12:21

I don’t blame them for not confirming, we’d be run ragged with press releases on it’s not them

They can stand away from it but I don’t understand BBC position if they stated it was them without knowing

The BBC would've had the green light like The Sun had?

TraitorsGate · 21/03/2024 12:23

user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 12:02

Exactly, that's my point. They never confirm tabloid stories, even make a point of being snooty about it, but they do brief endlessly off the record. The Sun got the green light to run the video and that was the palace's verification/confirmation right there.

Why would anyone believe anything reported in The Sun, after their false stories about Hillsborough, Elton John, Rooney , it's a long list.

LittleGlowingOblong · 21/03/2024 12:23

When the rumours about Rose Hanbury were getting out of hand, she just sent her lawyer out publicly with one simple declarative sentence.

Why hasn’t William done the same?

(Edited to remove a rogue apostrophe)

PinkTonic · 21/03/2024 12:24

Inkanta · 21/03/2024 12:15

So Kensington Palace are quick to leak that someone tried to log on to Kate's medical file but won't leak that BBC got it wrong broadcasting that W&K were at a farm shop.

KP wasn’t the source of the hospital story and they have confirmed that W&K were at the farm shop. They won’t verify paparazzi footage

TinnitusEar · 21/03/2024 12:24

@Severalwhippets
You claim to care a great deal about Kate Middleton. If that is true, you need to stop spouting the utter fantasy that's going on in your head and leave her be. Honestly you are making yourself look ridiculous.

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 12:24

Oakstreet · 21/03/2024 12:20

One of the best posts I've read. I'm shocked anyone believes the bad quality farm video by a bystander, a dad is real, who was paid 200k by the propaganda tool media The Sun! The Sun!

Thank you for both posts like this. There were some awful posts. Like horrendous. Luckily MN is not usually like that, and I would have jammed HQ if I had tried to report them all 😂

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user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 12:25

TraitorsGate · 21/03/2024 12:23

Why would anyone believe anything reported in The Sun, after their false stories about Hillsborough, Elton John, Rooney , it's a long list.

I know, but you'll be amazed at how many millions still use it as their main news source!

TinnitusEar · 21/03/2024 12:26

user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 12:25

I know, but you'll be amazed at how many millions still use it as their main news source!

Errr. The OP is trusting TMZ🤣

Wordsofprey · 21/03/2024 12:27

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 11:57

It was savage at 5am. Bear knuckle fighting territory. I don’t recommend it to be honest 😂
Someone from HQ plucked us out of there and placed us somewhere nicer 🙏🏻

😂 you did ruffle some feathers here

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