TMZ Producer says it ‘might not’ be Kate!

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So after days of so many of us saying it is not Catherine, and being screamed at, shut down and called ‘crazies’ and ‘trolls’ and all kinds of offensive names. It turns out we were right after all. It does not appear to be Cathrrine (no shock there for many of us) According to the producer that beamed this out across the world. Clearly unverified. Incredible that the news outlets just went along with it - no questions asked. What does that say about the quality of our journalism?

It was a huge gas lighting exercise.

So now we know we have one fake Mother’s Day photo and now one fake farm shop footage - it begs the question in a much more pressing way - where is Catherine? The stupid memes have to stop. This isn’t funny or anything to joke about.

No one can verify even a single shot ( I am discounting the photo of Pippa in the car with Carole, and someone’s head in the car turned away in windsor)

I don’t believe we are going to see Catherine this Easter or at any time soon. I don’t know where she is, or what has happened to her but I feel extremely worried for her.

I await Kensington Palace’s statement - it’s about time we learnt the truth. How can it be any worse than what has been speculated?

What will happen next? As this can not continue any longer.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/kate-middleton-farm-shop-video-32398541.amp

A. I don’t work in the media anymore and B. No-one I know who still does has the remotest idea what is going on.

The editing of the Mother's Day photo was a mistake, but this is something that Catherine owned up to however misguided it was in the first place. But we all make mistakes.

This is bullshit. Sorry, but it is. To think Catherine is playing with photoshop on a family picture that would be released by Kensington Palace to global agencies without being vetted, it's beyond ridiculous.

As the OP has previously said, let's blame the woman to deflect from the real problem and culprit.

I do think it's him but defo not Katie! it's much younger version of her, of course I may be wrong and it's not him either but defo looks like him. In any case... if it happens to be a fake video (I don't know) it's putting the RF in a bad light so why isn't their PR machine putting an end on these speculations? The Spanish press (I'm half Spanish so read it daily) are reporting Wills has a lover and Catherine is suffering from some serious mental health issues that are being hidden from the public. Go figure.

Or that AIBU is full of arsey kickers looking for a fight.

Okay colour me incorrect on that specific point, I don't use twitter or Instagram so my sleuthing has been limited. I do think the timing of such a presence and motorcade and no Kate since feels linked. We're there not reports of police attendance actually seen at Sandringham the same day? Granted this is all speculation, but it's all quite strange.

I'm basically on this thread to fight for our right to speculate about such a curious matter because why the fuck shouldn't we?! So some things that are peculiar may not be related at all, but they also may well be. That's the point of speculating. It's all theories until if /when we know what has actually gone on.

Because they never comment on tabloid stories and that's what this ultimately is. Same with Clarence House and Buck Palace. Never explain, never complain etc.

If you saw him in Windsor in a baseball cap would say that was W? I probably would, but it doesn’t even look that like him.

It was savage at 5am. Bear knuckle fighting territory. I don’t recommend it to be honest 😂
Someone from HQ plucked us out of there and placed us somewhere nicer 🙏🏻

It was on the BBC not just tabloids.

But OP you have decided it is a fake video, that doesn't mean it is.

If KP go onto confirm that it was W & C they then set themselves up for the future that they will need to respond to every unauthorised photo/video that is taken by a Pap or member of the public. By not confirming (but not denying either) they just maintain a dignified silence.

Otherwise they end up in the situation that somebody pointed out long ago on this thread ....

Yes that video is of POW shopping in John Lewis
No that photo is not POW having lunch with a friend in Nandos
Yes that photo of POW shopping in her local farm shop with her husband is genuine.
No that photo of etc etc etc is, or is/not genuine etc etc etc

Plus the video was filmed by a passerby from inside his car, no one else filmed it, photographed it, no security around, no stop to chat to the public?

Never complain, never explain, but feed stories from “palace sources” like there’s no tomorrow.

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The same BBC that covered up the Savile stuff for years despite everyone knowing the rumours and him literally touching children and women up in front of cameras?

But WHY would someone as naturally stunning as her need plastic surgery??? She doesn't have loose jowls, a turkey neck or saddlebags! This is what I find most baffling about the plastic surgery rumours.

I agree, you definitely have the right to talk and discuss it if you want to. Not everyone has to agree with the point. But the fundamental point is that we can talk if we want to. Too many are too willing to close down reasonable debate. On some spurious grounds that it will interfere with Catherine’s recovery - it really won’t, and no one on here is that important.

That’s true.

24/7 news cycle, with a race to put things online. There would be much more checking if it was during mainstream work hours on a weekday. The suspect images have been at weekends (I think, not following closely).

What I don't understand is why the broadcasters are not taking a more balanced approach. Either 'sighted', 'broken cover' (FFS, are they referring to prey). Or "analysis" (I use the term loosely here) of conspiracy theories. There seems to be no middle ground/balanced coverage. Why not look into whether it was lookalikes or an attempt to cash in with lookalikes.

The KP PR has been atrocious. There was no need for a Mother's Day picture and to have released it with that amount of editing. Either it was a team not bothering to check the image or it shows a lack of understanding of acceptable images for press agencies. Or worse a contempt for the news process and its consumers.

It would have been so easy to have put out a few messages thanking well wishers.

Exactly, that's my point. They never confirm tabloid stories, even make a point of being snooty about it, but they do brief endlessly off the record. The Sun got the green light to run the video and that was the palace's verification/confirmation right there.

It wasn't a matter of national security or even convenience that 'Kate' should be seen to be buying bread in her local farm shop though, was it? This is the Princess of Wales we are talking about, not Vladimir Putin or Kim Jong Un.

Even if MI5 has a couple of Kate doppelgangers in their permanent employment who have signed the official secrets act, why use them in this particular scenario to throw us all off the scent of her real whereabouts? What would be the point?

I could perhaps understand that argument if it were post-Easter and she still was in the middle of some major, major health crisis the details of which she didn't want to be public knowledge, but it isn't yet post-Easter and we've been told from the outset that she won't be back on duty until then. So why go causing more unnecessary fuss by employing a Kate lookalike to pose as her in a shop, when the official story is no different than it ever was? It's just nuts.

There is no ambulance in that video which was posted on an anonymous account on X saying something like, I know you can’t see the ambulance but there was one. No evidence has been provided of an ambulance, or that it was a royal motorcade, or that it went to a hospital. None. There is no evidence that it came from Sandringham either, and the story that a sick royal person was ‘blue lighted’ from Sandringham to London makes literally no sense. It may have escaped your notice that it’s a very long journey from Sandringham to London, that there are excellent hospitals much closer, and the RF have very good access to helicopters. It’s a lie and you are propagating it.

Or maybe it's neither William or Catherine and TMZ set the whole thing up with two look-a-likes and the "member of the public" their own pap and want more clicks with the conspiracy it's not them

I don't know why people expect ordinary people not to start threads on Mumsnet when the papers are obsessed with this story and we're fed a constant diet of it.

Of course people are going to read and watch this stuff and post online to discuss it.

It seems counter-intuitive to take out that anger on posters rather than the media.

I wonder how many people here have written to the papers to complain about the wall to wall coverage and the 'hounding'.

So she's not back to work at Easter as expected?.https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/kate-middleton-wont-return-to-royal-duties-at-easter-despite-palace-claims/news-story/fee2bac9a298a6518f61a44f251b4bf1

Or is this also fake news?

@Wordsofprey But that speculative tweet with no concrete evidence led to the generation of the story "she was rushed to hospital in December, what for, was the January announcement of surgery because something went wrong in December" . The Spanish papers stories of induced coma relate to the first hospitalisation being December 28. I think (but not entirely sure) the rushed to hospital on 28th December is also linked to the domestic violence rumours.

There is a massive global issue about misinformation and destabilisation and whilst on the face of it, the "zombie ambulance" (I used zombie in the sense that this story doesn't die) is small fry, the fact is too many people have regurgitated the story without checking provenance or deploying any critical thinking - and that is worrying for anyone concerned about how easy it can be for disinformation to be stoked up into serious situations (storming of the capitol being a classic example?
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