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TMZ Producer says it ‘might not’ be Kate!

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Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 04:14

So after days of so many of us saying it is not Catherine, and being screamed at, shut down and called ‘crazies’ and ‘trolls’ and all kinds of offensive names. It turns out we were right after all. It does not appear to be Cathrrine (no shock there for many of us) According to the producer that beamed this out across the world. Clearly unverified. Incredible that the news outlets just went along with it - no questions asked. What does that say about the quality of our journalism?

It was a huge gas lighting exercise.

So now we know we have one fake Mother’s Day photo and now one fake farm shop footage - it begs the question in a much more pressing way - where is Catherine? The stupid memes have to stop. This isn’t funny or anything to joke about.

No one can verify even a single shot ( I am discounting the photo of Pippa in the car with Carole, and someone’s head in the car turned away in windsor)

I don’t believe we are going to see Catherine this Easter or at any time soon. I don’t know where she is, or what has happened to her but I feel extremely worried for her.

I await Kensington Palace’s statement - it’s about time we learnt the truth. How can it be any worse than what has been speculated?

What will happen next? As this can not continue any longer.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/kate-middleton-farm-shop-video-32398541.amp

Kate Middleton farm shop video 'isn't her' claims TMZ producer who bought clip

The Princess Kate saga continues to rumble on as the executive producer from TMZ cast their own doubt on whether the farm clip was actually her, despite running the footage

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/kate-middleton-farm-shop-video-32398541.amp

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Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 11:29

user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 11:25

Yes. Apparently that’s why The Sun didn’t run the footage as soon as they had it on Sunday afternoon - they wanted the nod from KP because as a rule they don’t run pap shots of Royals. Why do you think we never see even Sophie or Eugenie etc out shopping?

So KP quietly gave the green light but not the verification. Why? Surely they knew it would soon come to light sooner or later and cause even more problems?

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smilesy · 21/03/2024 11:29

If there are personal attacks, then report them. The mistake the op made was to start this thread in AIBU,so there were far less posters who were or the same mind as them. Now it’s on the RF board, those who think like them have reappeared. This would suggest to me that the majority of people not on the RF board think that the op is incorrect

Menomeno · 21/03/2024 11:29

EasternStandard · 21/03/2024 11:25

I think it’s lead by a large extent on our interest

We create the demand. We talk about stuff, fill threads, IG, Twitter the media picks up on demand and makes money

I’d agree with that for the majority of our media but the BBC should be above that, and the report important fact-based news that we should know about, not what we want to hear.

Inkanta · 21/03/2024 11:29

areyoutheregod · 21/03/2024 11:22

yes exactly. The 'leave Kate alone' hysteria is just people trying to stop the much bigger conversation around William's handling of this and how it reflects on him and if he's a capable future King, and of course the relationship between the media and the royal family. The media's focus seems to be on Kate and to a lesser extent Kensington Palace and their stupidity, but they haven't said much about how William has handled this whole thing, including his father's illness. As usual, the women end up in the spotlight when it's the men in charge doing a bad job.

Yes absolutely - would like to see William being masterful here. Make this fiasco stop. ✋️

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 11:29

smilesy · 21/03/2024 11:29

If there are personal attacks, then report them. The mistake the op made was to start this thread in AIBU,so there were far less posters who were or the same mind as them. Now it’s on the RF board, those who think like them have reappeared. This would suggest to me that the majority of people not on the RF board think that the op is incorrect

I really don’t think they were your average MN user to be fair.

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EasternStandard · 21/03/2024 11:30

smilesy · 21/03/2024 11:29

If there are personal attacks, then report them. The mistake the op made was to start this thread in AIBU,so there were far less posters who were or the same mind as them. Now it’s on the RF board, those who think like them have reappeared. This would suggest to me that the majority of people not on the RF board think that the op is incorrect

I think AIBU has a tendency to be quite attack based at times no matter the topic

EasternStandard · 21/03/2024 11:31

Menomeno · 21/03/2024 11:29

I’d agree with that for the majority of our media but the BBC should be above that, and the report important fact-based news that we should know about, not what we want to hear.

I think if the pp is correct that the BBC stated it as fact without verifying it was them then that’s problematic

I don’t suppose anyone has a link handy

Menomeno · 21/03/2024 11:31

StillCreatingAName · 21/03/2024 11:21

This thread is like a text version of a Black Mirror episode.

You only have to look at the Covid enquiry to see that we are very much living in a Black Mirror episode.

beatrix1234 · 21/03/2024 11:31

I just saw the farm video, OMG! That's not her by any means! What the hell is going on?

smilesy · 21/03/2024 11:34

Wordsofprey · 21/03/2024 11:13

"peddled" I'm just stating what we know from what is out there. Not sure where the word zombie comes into it but an ambulance coming from Sandringham around Christmas and all following events for Kate being cancelled almost immediately does, in fact, point to some sort of emergency and unexpected medical problem (NOT a routine or scheduled operation), specifically being tagged to Kate as that's where the Wales' were at the time and she hasn't been seen since. But yes, zombies, of course?

An ambulance coming from Sandringham “some time around Christmas “? This is “evidence”yet a video of them at a farm shop colony possibly be? How does that work? 🤔

myrtleWilson · 21/03/2024 11:34

Wordsofprey · 21/03/2024 11:22

Well there is a video of an ambulance in amongst a motorcade of which only the royals use, dated around Christmas. So somebody went somewhere in an ambulance, and they were royal. And Kate hasn't been seen since, so we're assuming its her. They may be assumptions but they're pretty logical ones.

this tweet @Wordsofprey - could you point to the ambulance in this convoy https://x.com/rvdajdyncrclemn/status/1740443152606196096?s=46&t=DddtrQy-YSi-4WHUlt1qjg and how did you reach the conclusion that this is a convoy only the Royals use?

https://x.com/rvdajdyncrclemn/status/1740443152606196096?s=46&t=DddtrQy-YSi-4WHUlt1qjg

TraitorsGate · 21/03/2024 11:35

beatrix1234 · 21/03/2024 11:31

I just saw the farm video, OMG! That's not her by any means! What the hell is going on?

Maybe it's just a set up by the media, put out a "story", then claim its untrue, blame everyone else but in reality it's just a pathetic attempt by the media to force them to come out and make a personal appearance just to satisfy the vultures. The RF don't need to respond, if its all just a media game then let them dig an even bigger hole.

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 11:37

I must admit the thread was intended for talk. My defence is an early start. I need to crack on here, but thank you to those contributing to a conversation around how we have arrived at this situation, at all, with trusted broadcasters. Why was it allowed to run and run? Why are they not verifying footage and where does that leave Kate?

Dear God, I do hope Kate is okay, she is the best thing that has ever happened to the RF in my view. She gives the old institution glitter and relevance. I wonder if this would have even happened if the Queen was still alive and well. It makes me sad to imagine what she would make of this ( or Prince Philip for that matter, no doubt that would be colourful!)

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Wordsofprey · 21/03/2024 11:38

myrtleWilson · 21/03/2024 11:34

this tweet @Wordsofprey - could you point to the ambulance in this convoy https://x.com/rvdajdyncrclemn/status/1740443152606196096?s=46&t=DddtrQy-YSi-4WHUlt1qjg and how did you reach the conclusion that this is a convoy only the Royals use?

Who else uses convoys in the UK With multiple security units in multiple vehicles? I'm open to being wrong but I'm pretty certain it's only royals or extremely important people of which there weren't any visiting who would warrant such a convoy. And no problem, the ambulance is the flashing blue lights out of shot. At that point of the video being posted, there was nothing happening at all with Kate, so the timing JUST before she was admitted to the same hospital could absolutely just be chance. But it's probably not, is it?

Tallerandtall · 21/03/2024 11:38

@Severalwhippets

no one cares either way
worty that you actually care.

its is time for no tories
Time for a republic
no inherited peerages
time for no religion in goverment or schools
true social meritocracy
appropriate corporate tax's

and time to be part of Europe again

anyone who can't see the UK is a crumbling crap show and needs a whole renewal is kidding themselves

you posts proves that people are focussed on tripe

friendlycat · 21/03/2024 11:40

The thing is OP I do actually think the video is of William and Catherine.

I also think that KP issued a statement early on stating she was having surgery and would not resume royal duties until after Easter - and that statement was fine and perfectly sufficient.

But the media and SM have whipped up a chorus of noise all around no further statements being issued. It seems that in this modern world of SM if there is a vacuum of information people speculate and arrive at non sensical theories of their own.

It's quite well documented that William draws a hard line around his privacy and that of his family. Perhaps going forward they may have to relook at their PR strategy and issue "titbit" statements to appease those that look for issues when there are none.

The editing of the Mother's Day photo was a mistake, but this is something that Catherine owned up to however misguided it was in the first place. But we all make mistakes.

But I quite understand why KP does not confirm or refute every single nonsense claim as they would be continually responding to some utter junk half of the time. They simply have to rise above it all.

But with a sensible head on, even if you do not think the video features W & C, surely you can see that others do - mainstream media and broadcasters. There is no reason for randoms or lookalikes to have been used! It would all have come out by now if that had actually happened.

beatrix1234 · 21/03/2024 11:40

TraitorsGate · 21/03/2024 11:35

Maybe it's just a set up by the media, put out a "story", then claim its untrue, blame everyone else but in reality it's just a pathetic attempt by the media to force them to come out and make a personal appearance just to satisfy the vultures. The RF don't need to respond, if its all just a media game then let them dig an even bigger hole.

I would abide by your theory (completely feasible), problem is THAT's wills in the video, but defo NOT her, unless of course she has a double that happens to be willis friend to the point they go shopping together! I'm intrigued as to my their PR machine is not launching a proper video, press conference or whatever to end with the speculations/conspiracies.

BemusedAmerican · 21/03/2024 11:41

It is a sad commentary that comments on the NY Post and Page 6 are more sophisticated and balanced than posts on Mumsnet. The woman is alive and will show up at Easter. Maybe the vicar can hold a mass of thanksgiving for her complete with chorus (not C of E and been decades since I went to a RC service).

Purplebunnie · 21/03/2024 11:42

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 05:42

TMZ bought the footage of the farm shop and distributed it. The executive producer has since said he does not now believe it is Catherine. I am not sure why you are confused.

The executive producer is playing games.

He ran the video without verifying it was Catherine - makes him look incompetent

But then he tells us that he is incompetent by telling us that he bought it and ran it without verifying the content.

Or are more people clicking on it to see if he's right

Clever or incompetent? I think clever

edited for misspelling of clever

beatrix1234 · 21/03/2024 11:42

The Spanish press is reporting she just went through plastic surgery, her face has changed and looks much younger so MAYBE that's her in the video with her "new face"? It definitely looks like a much younger version of Kate...

Mirabai · 21/03/2024 11:42

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 11:29

So KP quietly gave the green light but not the verification. Why? Surely they knew it would soon come to light sooner or later and cause even more problems?

That’s the billion dollar question.

KP have now completely lost control of the narrative.

BemusedAmerican · 21/03/2024 11:47

Or MI5 and MI6 are treating it as an experiment in social media's effect on the public?

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 11:47

Mirabai · 21/03/2024 11:42

That’s the billion dollar question.

KP have now completely lost control of the narrative.

KP lost control of the narrative and their solution is to allow more fake footage to be broadcast everywhere?

They could end this immediately with an honest statement, get back on the front foot - why aren’t they doing that? It’s your industry so I thought you might know. It baffles me.

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myrtleWilson · 21/03/2024 11:49

Perhaps you didn't see the linked tweet @Wordsofprey which is split into three photos - the third of which shows two police outriders, cars and then marked police car at the back - no ambulance.
The clip is in central London and there is no evidence it travelled from Norfolk.
Other people that could utilise a convoy would include the PM for one https://x.com/rvdajdyncrclemn/status/1740445907039277552?s=46&t=DddtrQy-YSi-4WHUlt1qjg

https://x.com/rvdajdyncrclemn/status/1740445907039277552?s=46&t=DddtrQy-YSi-4WHUlt1qjg

TraitorsGate · 21/03/2024 11:50

beatrix1234 · 21/03/2024 11:40

I would abide by your theory (completely feasible), problem is THAT's wills in the video, but defo NOT her, unless of course she has a double that happens to be willis friend to the point they go shopping together! I'm intrigued as to my their PR machine is not launching a proper video, press conference or whatever to end with the speculations/conspiracies.

Really? I thought it didn't look like him at all but covered up with a baseball cap on

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