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TMZ Producer says it ‘might not’ be Kate!

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Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 04:14

So after days of so many of us saying it is not Catherine, and being screamed at, shut down and called ‘crazies’ and ‘trolls’ and all kinds of offensive names. It turns out we were right after all. It does not appear to be Cathrrine (no shock there for many of us) According to the producer that beamed this out across the world. Clearly unverified. Incredible that the news outlets just went along with it - no questions asked. What does that say about the quality of our journalism?

It was a huge gas lighting exercise.

So now we know we have one fake Mother’s Day photo and now one fake farm shop footage - it begs the question in a much more pressing way - where is Catherine? The stupid memes have to stop. This isn’t funny or anything to joke about.

No one can verify even a single shot ( I am discounting the photo of Pippa in the car with Carole, and someone’s head in the car turned away in windsor)

I don’t believe we are going to see Catherine this Easter or at any time soon. I don’t know where she is, or what has happened to her but I feel extremely worried for her.

I await Kensington Palace’s statement - it’s about time we learnt the truth. How can it be any worse than what has been speculated?

What will happen next? As this can not continue any longer.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/kate-middleton-farm-shop-video-32398541.amp

Kate Middleton farm shop video 'isn't her' claims TMZ producer who bought clip

The Princess Kate saga continues to rumble on as the executive producer from TMZ cast their own doubt on whether the farm clip was actually her, despite running the footage

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/kate-middleton-farm-shop-video-32398541.amp

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TinnitusEar · 21/03/2024 11:11

areyoutheregod · 21/03/2024 11:09

Can you please stop attacking the OP? Don't read the thread if it bothers you. Some of us would like to have a conversation.

Nope. Free country. If OP wants to spout such garbage, she should expect some flack.

Tothemanorborne · 21/03/2024 11:11

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TokyoSushi · 21/03/2024 11:12

I mean if it isn't her, then that's absolutely nuts and we really do have big problems, but I really think that it is!

Alondra · 21/03/2024 11:12

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 10:02

I know, it started from the second I posted and was truly shocking and not like MN at all - even at its worst. I still think the subject is relevant. I don’t want to live in a society riddled with lies and deception, and I have not enjoyed watching this fiasco unfold around the RF. It really undermines public trust and confidence.

I feel some were expecting a thread to come up about it, and why wouldn’t it? Most people want to know if Kate is okay. But some really went for it on here, and to my mind in a way that was very different to a normal pile on.

I am not taking it personally but I am wondering about the motivation. Because this is a forum open for debate - we live in a democracy and can speak respectfully about anything we want to. Including the royal family.

You are getting so much crap because there are many posters who will "defend" Catherine and her right to privacy and getting well, when this PR disaster has never been about her.

It's about Kensington Palace manipulating a photograph when they didn't need to do it. The Princess of Wales is recuperating from a medical procedure, and they should NEVER have sent that picture to reputable serious global agencies. They then doubled up on the mistake. Instead of letting it blow over, they released another photo of her looking at a brick wall in a car with William. Then tripled on the mistake by Kate accepting blame for the photoshop. The woman that has often said she takes pictures of her family "because they are memories in one moment in time", was supposedly at 10 PM photoshoping the picture and sending it to the news agencies without Kensington Palace consent. It beggars belief.

We all know the press are awful and social media is a cesspit of disgusting people, but this whole sorry saga should be blamed on William as head of KP.

He's made rookie mistakes, costing reputation and credibility to the royal family when there was no need for it. Once they released the statement the POW had surgery and would resume duties after Easter, they should have stopped there. If average people asked William how she was, saying something like "she is getting better, I will transmit to her your getting well wishes" would have been enough.

The problem is that once the royals lose credibility as a source, news agencies are going to scrutinise any photograph the royal family sends and many more average people will start questioning the lack of transparency.

FloorWipes · 21/03/2024 11:12

I'm beginning to understand on a deeper level how the storming of the Capitol came about.

Wordsofprey · 21/03/2024 11:13

myrtleWilson · 21/03/2024 11:01

Christ the zombie ambulance theory is still being pedalled by @Wordsofprey!

"peddled" I'm just stating what we know from what is out there. Not sure where the word zombie comes into it but an ambulance coming from Sandringham around Christmas and all following events for Kate being cancelled almost immediately does, in fact, point to some sort of emergency and unexpected medical problem (NOT a routine or scheduled operation), specifically being tagged to Kate as that's where the Wales' were at the time and she hasn't been seen since. But yes, zombies, of course?

TinnitusEar · 21/03/2024 11:14

FloorWipes · 21/03/2024 11:12

I'm beginning to understand on a deeper level how the storming of the Capitol came about.

Exactly. OP sounds like the sort who spied on their neighbours during COVID

areyoutheregod · 21/03/2024 11:17

TinnitusEar · 21/03/2024 11:11

Nope. Free country. If OP wants to spout such garbage, she should expect some flack.

personal attacks are actually against the rules. So, no not a free country here on someone else's forum.

StillCreatingAName · 21/03/2024 11:17

You’ve got to admire the OPs desperate attempts to turn this into a debate about the modern media and whether we trust news outlets. That’s some spin on your original post, coupled with faux concern for the person concerned.

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 11:17

Wordsofprey · 21/03/2024 11:09

Exactly, if anything I find it more strange how blase people are about the fact we've had multiple doctored images and unconfirmed footage (my immediate thoughts when looking at the video was.. wow, that's actually not conclusive, but I was EXPECTING it to be from the immediate articles saying she had been seen), this is the future queen were speaking about, right to privacy somewhat goes out the window firstly when you are a royal and lording over us with special rights and benefits and secondly when you are MISSING. When a normal citizen is missing, their life usually gets turned upside down no stones unturned and private life spread open until they are found. Nicola Bulley anyone? The police actually told us she struggled with alcoholism and was going through the menopause because she hadn't been seen in a few days.. I don't see why we'd turn a blind eye to the most recognisable woman in the world suddenly going MIA with strange fake footage floating about. But she's fine! Shut up, stalkers! God, can't a princess get some privacy for nearing 4 months when she's living off the public purse and isn't completing her usual duties and her own staff haven't heard from her? Jheez

It is always being completely shut down, with the why should you care kind of reply.

Well I do care. About her and the children.

I probably care more about Catherine than the others in the RF because she is ‘one of us’ be it at the upper end - but not an aristocrat, and we watched her as a teenager fall in love, get married, have babies. Now this, it just feels so jarring and so unusual.

Even that can be set aside if we were not being fed fake footage and photos and odd stories. It’s the deception sanctioned by trusted media broadcasters such as the BBC that is rattling.

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myrtleWilson · 21/03/2024 11:17

No evidence of this Norfolk to London ambulance has ever been provided despite people asking multiple times @Wordsofprey - please do share it if you have it

Mirabai · 21/03/2024 11:18

TokyoSushi · 21/03/2024 11:11

Do people seriously still think it's not her?! I'll admit I got a bit tin foil hat/rabbit holey when they released the Mother's Day photo, but I do think the video is her and that she'll turn up some time around/after Easter looking fabulous and like nothing has ever happened.

I think the question is do people still seriously think it’s her?

I was fooled for a bit, but if you have to say “well she’s lost loads of weight from surgery and has had plastic surgery” then it’s not her!

She looks very like her from one particular angle. But the rest of the time she doesn’t look that like her.

Nor, tellingly, have KP said it was.

Wordsofprey · 21/03/2024 11:19

TinnitusEar · 21/03/2024 11:14

Exactly. OP sounds like the sort who spied on their neighbours during COVID

🤣🤣🤣 because she's curious about the missing princess in line to be queen? I actually think all these people saying "how outrageous you are curious about something curious happening" are the type to be complete hypocrites and to be nosy neighbours. But no you must be right, let's give the richest family in the world who are above the law as much freedom and space as they need for as long as they need, because this is the 1100s and otherwise our heads might be found on spikes.

ForTonightGodisaDJ · 21/03/2024 11:20

JanglingJack · 21/03/2024 05:04

Anyway - scrambled eggs anyone?

Why are you all up so fucking early? 😂I was in my warm, warm bed.

IcedPurple · 21/03/2024 11:20

Even that can be set aside if we were not being fed fake footage and photos and odd stories.

There was one photo which had been 'manipulated'. Personally I don't think there was any sinister intention, but it was definitely a stupid mistake from such a high level organisation.

Apart from that, what else are we being 'fed'?

Are you claiming that the video purportedly of Kate and William was a fake organised by 'the palace'?

Really?

LittleGlowingOblong · 21/03/2024 11:20

Great 10.55 post and great username @Wordsofprey . This sums it up for me. It’s interesting how people on both sides of the debate see people of the other side as irremediably bone-headed!

StillCreatingAName · 21/03/2024 11:21

This thread is like a text version of a Black Mirror episode.

areyoutheregod · 21/03/2024 11:22

Alondra · 21/03/2024 11:12

You are getting so much crap because there are many posters who will "defend" Catherine and her right to privacy and getting well, when this PR disaster has never been about her.

It's about Kensington Palace manipulating a photograph when they didn't need to do it. The Princess of Wales is recuperating from a medical procedure, and they should NEVER have sent that picture to reputable serious global agencies. They then doubled up on the mistake. Instead of letting it blow over, they released another photo of her looking at a brick wall in a car with William. Then tripled on the mistake by Kate accepting blame for the photoshop. The woman that has often said she takes pictures of her family "because they are memories in one moment in time", was supposedly at 10 PM photoshoping the picture and sending it to the news agencies without Kensington Palace consent. It beggars belief.

We all know the press are awful and social media is a cesspit of disgusting people, but this whole sorry saga should be blamed on William as head of KP.

He's made rookie mistakes, costing reputation and credibility to the royal family when there was no need for it. Once they released the statement the POW had surgery and would resume duties after Easter, they should have stopped there. If average people asked William how she was, saying something like "she is getting better, I will transmit to her your getting well wishes" would have been enough.

The problem is that once the royals lose credibility as a source, news agencies are going to scrutinise any photograph the royal family sends and many more average people will start questioning the lack of transparency.

yes exactly. The 'leave Kate alone' hysteria is just people trying to stop the much bigger conversation around William's handling of this and how it reflects on him and if he's a capable future King, and of course the relationship between the media and the royal family. The media's focus seems to be on Kate and to a lesser extent Kensington Palace and their stupidity, but they haven't said much about how William has handled this whole thing, including his father's illness. As usual, the women end up in the spotlight when it's the men in charge doing a bad job.

Wordsofprey · 21/03/2024 11:22

myrtleWilson · 21/03/2024 11:17

No evidence of this Norfolk to London ambulance has ever been provided despite people asking multiple times @Wordsofprey - please do share it if you have it

Well there is a video of an ambulance in amongst a motorcade of which only the royals use, dated around Christmas. So somebody went somewhere in an ambulance, and they were royal. And Kate hasn't been seen since, so we're assuming its her. They may be assumptions but they're pretty logical ones.

Menomeno · 21/03/2024 11:22

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 11:08

I have always been aware of agendas and cautiously followed the news with that in mind, but what we are talking about is far more serious. There has been no effort to verify this footage - and someone gave it the green light anyway.

How can we trust that what they report in Ukraine, Haiti, Paris or Sudan is even true or credible if they can’t even fact check a piece of very dubious footage?

It looks to me like they were quietly given the nod to take the heat off KP, so their impartiality and authenticity is at best shaky and worst completely null and void.

So where does that leave us? Without a single broadcaster we can trust.

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The Ukraine war is a good example. Two years ago it was rolling news, 24/7. Now it barely gets a mention, to the point where I’m sure many westerners assume that not much is happening there now. Maybe the government feels it’s dragged on longer than they had hoped and no longer want to give Ukraine the same level of support they did at the start of the invasion; so they’ve asked broadcasters to play it down.

Similarly with the BBC’s changing stance in Gaza/Israel. There’s always an agenda.

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 11:23

Alondra · 21/03/2024 11:12

You are getting so much crap because there are many posters who will "defend" Catherine and her right to privacy and getting well, when this PR disaster has never been about her.

It's about Kensington Palace manipulating a photograph when they didn't need to do it. The Princess of Wales is recuperating from a medical procedure, and they should NEVER have sent that picture to reputable serious global agencies. They then doubled up on the mistake. Instead of letting it blow over, they released another photo of her looking at a brick wall in a car with William. Then tripled on the mistake by Kate accepting blame for the photoshop. The woman that has often said she takes pictures of her family "because they are memories in one moment in time", was supposedly at 10 PM photoshoping the picture and sending it to the news agencies without Kensington Palace consent. It beggars belief.

We all know the press are awful and social media is a cesspit of disgusting people, but this whole sorry saga should be blamed on William as head of KP.

He's made rookie mistakes, costing reputation and credibility to the royal family when there was no need for it. Once they released the statement the POW had surgery and would resume duties after Easter, they should have stopped there. If average people asked William how she was, saying something like "she is getting better, I will transmit to her your getting well wishes" would have been enough.

The problem is that once the royals lose credibility as a source, news agencies are going to scrutinise any photograph the royal family sends and many more average people will start questioning the lack of transparency.

Exactly and not only that but the public trust in anything we see or hear is evaporating with every passing misstep of KPs. It’s not like the broadcasters are making any effort at all to sure up the actual facts.

Which doesn’t feel too bad until you consider why we might need to trust our National news sources. National emergencies, war, serious incidents - will we get to a point where the public won’t believe anything, because that is risk. The broadcasters have a responsibility.

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EasternStandard · 21/03/2024 11:25

Menomeno · 21/03/2024 11:22

The Ukraine war is a good example. Two years ago it was rolling news, 24/7. Now it barely gets a mention, to the point where I’m sure many westerners assume that not much is happening there now. Maybe the government feels it’s dragged on longer than they had hoped and no longer want to give Ukraine the same level of support they did at the start of the invasion; so they’ve asked broadcasters to play it down.

Similarly with the BBC’s changing stance in Gaza/Israel. There’s always an agenda.

I think it’s lead by a large extent on our interest

We create the demand. We talk about stuff, fill threads, IG, Twitter the media picks up on demand and makes money

user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 11:25

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 10:40

Okay so you are saying the broadcasters could only run unverified footage IF it’s sanctioned by KP - even though KP refused to answer whether it was actually Catherine and William or not.

Yes. Apparently that’s why The Sun didn’t run the footage as soon as they had it on Sunday afternoon - they wanted the nod from KP because as a rule they don’t run pap shots of Royals. Why do you think we never see even Sophie or Eugenie etc out shopping?

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 11:27

TinnitusEar · 21/03/2024 11:14

Exactly. OP sounds like the sort who spied on their neighbours during COVID

I actually spent most of covid eating food and trying to get through home schooling 😂 my neighbours I believe spent most of the LD in the garden drinking gin! I don’t suppose they would mind if I share that with you.

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LittleGlowingOblong · 21/03/2024 11:28

I wonder if many of the KP defenders aren’t in fact people who’ve drunk in all the hateful, racist anti-Meghan propaganda by a press being taken to the High Court by her husband.

Is that why so many people seem to be digging in, when the rest of us are mainly just pointing the lies, silences and inconsistencies.

Sort of as an aside, the lack of any noticeable interaction between Prince William and King Charles in the whole of 2024 is quite eyebrow-raising, given the rumours. Though I guess they both have busy diaries.

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