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Have you lost faith/trust in the royal family?

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 16/03/2024 20:36

Recent events

AIBU to lose faith and trust in what we get to hear about the royal family?

What would restore your faith in the royal family?

OP posts:
Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/03/2024 14:01

Roussette · 17/03/2024 10:43

No, but your MP has to swear allegiance to the King. MPs who are representing us, have to

wby don't they swear allegiance to the people, not to someone we didn't choose and. can't vote out

A very reasonable question, Roussette, and perhaps just another reason why few with integrity would even want to be an MP

I'm another who never had any faith/trust in them to lose, though I can admire (or not) individuals for making a better or worse fist of the job
On the whole though I just want the whole institution gone and replaced by an elected Head of State, even though I doubt it'll happen in my lifetime

CurlewKate · 18/03/2024 15:01

@FlatWhiteLover "Since then they have slaved away at the unglamorous engagements without much fanfare and managed to have a long successful marriage."

Learned from their mistakes or accepted an ultimatum. Who knows??

CurlewKate · 18/03/2024 15:03

@Roussette "wby don't they swear allegiance to the people, not to someone we didn't choose and. can't vote out"

Or they could do what my ds did enrolling in the Scouts- he said god and whispered Darwin under his breath!

Roussette · 18/03/2024 16:39

CurlewKate · 18/03/2024 15:03

@Roussette "wby don't they swear allegiance to the people, not to someone we didn't choose and. can't vote out"

Or they could do what my ds did enrolling in the Scouts- he said god and whispered Darwin under his breath!

Awww bless him! 😅

Lookingatthesunset · 18/03/2024 19:01

Inkanta · 18/03/2024 13:52

Well, they deserve what they get really - lording it over us for years and years - dressed in their most beautiful and best finery ..people blindly following. Now it's come to this.

Really???

I've personally never felt "lorded over". How utterly quaint and faintly ridiculous.

Lookingatthesunset · 18/03/2024 19:03

CurlewKate · 18/03/2024 15:01

@FlatWhiteLover "Since then they have slaved away at the unglamorous engagements without much fanfare and managed to have a long successful marriage."

Learned from their mistakes or accepted an ultimatum. Who knows??

Either way, what does it matter?! End effect is the same.

Echobelly · 18/03/2024 19:04

Never had any to lose!

'The Firm' is a very powerful operation, and generally it's unwise to trust any such organisation. They don't care about me so I don't see why I should care about them. The monarchy will limp on, don't doubt it, but maybe this will be the beginning on a more slimmed-down, low-profile royalty, which would be a good thing.

Lookingatthesunset · 18/03/2024 19:07

Sasqwatch · 17/03/2024 01:52

Harry and Meghan tried to keep some of their life private. They got hounded out of the country.

What complete and utter nonsense @OhcantthInkofaname 🙄

!00% this! They did not get "hounded out of the country! They flounced when they didn't get their own way and have been taking revenge ever since!

Roussette · 18/03/2024 19:09

Lookingatthesunset · 18/03/2024 19:01

Really???

I've personally never felt "lorded over". How utterly quaint and faintly ridiculous.

This is not lording it over us plebs?

Have you lost faith/trust in the royal family?
Lookingatthesunset · 18/03/2024 19:20

BigPimpinSpendinCheese · 17/03/2024 10:32

Great post.

Add Andrew into the mix and it becomes embarrassing. I'm glad Harry and Meghan walked away. I have more respect for them for it.

"Respect" for a pair of grifters that took the hump and flounced when they didn't get their own way? "Respect" for a woman who has managed to alienate both hers and her husband's families? For a man who wrote so eloquently about his "todger" and makes a living trashing his family?

Do me a favour!!!

Lookingatthesunset · 18/03/2024 19:22

Roussette · 18/03/2024 19:09

This is not lording it over us plebs?

Nope, it's them performing a ceremonial role to a huge audience who have chosen to be there to see them.

Maybe they'd rather be putting their feet up with a nice cuppa or a g'n't?

You can control your own feelings, you know. I do not feel "lorded over" one bit.

Lookingatthesunset · 18/03/2024 19:24

CoffeeCantata · 17/03/2024 10:45

Haven't read the responses here - deliberately, because I want to give my own unbiased answer. Not being rude.

No, it hasn't changed my view at all. It doesn't have much to do with the royals, and more to do with social media. 90% of the hoo-ha strikes me as being the press and SM making mischief and money. I don't give a damn that an informal family snap was altered. The two pap shots of Catherine in cars would indicate that (unsurprisingly) the poor woman is not looking the way she would wish to look while recovering from a serious procedure. Yes, she may look puffy or tired/drawn/stressed - don't blame her at all for not wanting the world's press analysing her every line/shadow/tense muscle etc etc.

They said she'd be back at Easter. Let's hope that happens.

If the crazies turn out to be correct and she's been severely beaten by her husband, has tried to run away from her royal life or is in fact dead, then I'll eat my tin hat, but not until then.

Thank god for a voice of reason in the middle of the madness!

I completely agree with you @CoffeeCantata.

LadyMuckonpancakes · 18/03/2024 19:27

Lookingatthesunset · 18/03/2024 19:24

Thank god for a voice of reason in the middle of the madness!

I completely agree with you @CoffeeCantata.

Me too.

Lookingatthesunset · 18/03/2024 19:27

scalt · 17/03/2024 11:54

I didn't watch the coronation (I refused to do so while we still can, in case 1984 becomes real, and such things are forcibly broadcast into our homes), but wasn't there something about those watching at home being "invited" to pledge allegiance?

My, you're quite the rebel aren't you?!!

upinaballoon · 18/03/2024 19:38

Lookingatthesunset · 18/03/2024 19:01

Really???

I've personally never felt "lorded over". How utterly quaint and faintly ridiculous.

I've felt a lot more lorded over by those two snobby daughters of EG's (local person) than by the Royal Family. Those two really did think that I was/am something of a lesser species, and they don't have titles, except for Mrs, but their Dad had more money than mine so they thought themselves something.

When people accuse members of the Royal Family of 'setting themselves up' or 'lording over' I think that they are using boring old cliches for a start, and that given half a chance and a few pounds in their pockets it is THEY, the accusers, who would be far more likely to 'lord it' and 'set themselves up'.

I would put an acute accent on the e of cliche, if I knew how to with this keyboard. It annoys me that I don't know how. If I were handwriting I would easily have the accent in the right place in a trice.

Quizine · 18/03/2024 19:39

Beats me why anyone would care about or defend any of them.

Tolerating them is non negotiable, there's nothing we can do, they are going nowhere, but as for anything else, that's a no from me. Like celebrities and their shenanigans, lip boob etc. fillers and whatnot, their only claim to fame and fortune is gossip, oh and being born I suppose.

What did the Romans RF do for me? I'll tell you what, nothing, zilch, nada so they can all go ahead and live in their McMansions and give the Royal wave to their subjects peasants outside the castle walls. For that is where we shall remain!

upinaballoon · 18/03/2024 19:55

My friend said that she and I were the last of the peasants. She said it because we had countryside roots. She didn't exactly say it in a spirit of swankiness but she didn't see it as anything bad. She was gently laughing at the people who pull the word out as if it's an insult. The word 'peasant' tends to be used in England at least as a kind of sneer, by people of all classes.

I think that QE2 and the King and Prince William deal with people on the estates directly sometimes, as well as long-distance through estate managers. I imagine that if a Norfolk 'peasant' spoke in an unpolished way but knew his job well they would be more likely to have considerable respect for him than look down on him.

Quizine · 18/03/2024 20:08

upinaballoon · 18/03/2024 19:55

My friend said that she and I were the last of the peasants. She said it because we had countryside roots. She didn't exactly say it in a spirit of swankiness but she didn't see it as anything bad. She was gently laughing at the people who pull the word out as if it's an insult. The word 'peasant' tends to be used in England at least as a kind of sneer, by people of all classes.

I think that QE2 and the King and Prince William deal with people on the estates directly sometimes, as well as long-distance through estate managers. I imagine that if a Norfolk 'peasant' spoke in an unpolished way but knew his job well they would be more likely to have considerable respect for him than look down on him.

What word describes those not of Royal descent then? Citizens?, no we are Subjects. We all know what the pejorative term is for those of us not born into the Family, and it is not Royal - it is peasant.

Paysan(ne) en Francais, person of the fields, outside the walls. That is where we are kept with the odd glimpse now and then of them zooming past or gracing us with a Royal wave. You know a supercilious nod to the peasant class when you see one. We who are not of Royal blood or descended from the d'Urbervilles are peasants.

DreamTheMoors · 19/03/2024 00:24

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 17/03/2024 20:56

Does it, how?

"laughing stock on the world stage" - not at all, its just the Americans gutter press having a lol.

If there was any truth to their BS, our gutter press would have followed through and more importantly, some in our RF have foes and the foes would have been spreading the word.

Therefore, I am standing by what I have said

IMO, people envy William/Kate and given half the chance, they'd readily jump into their boots.

The “American gutter press” doesn’t hold a candle to the British gutter press, @DistinguishedSocialCommentator.
As distinguished as you are, surely you could distinguish between the two.

PrincessFrogandalilypad · 23/07/2024 01:36

DisforDarkChocolate · 16/03/2024 20:45

Andrew is where it all went wrong for me. At best he's a creepy middle aged man with extremely poor morals. At worst....?

H&M, good for them escaping.

Andrew is an odious and pompous creep! I also found it bizarre when the Queen died and the family members were at the gates that he put his hands together in a supplicant way and was bowing to thank the mourners. He just had to be the one to stand out like that. For me, he is the poster child for all that is wrong with the titled and entitled way of life.

Galoop · 23/07/2024 02:16

Why would you trust them, for what? Until recently (last 100 or so years) they've basically a family who have been taking from the peasants? As well as other countries.

CoffeeCantata · 23/07/2024 08:55

This is a zombie thread, but hey...

I'm a mild royalist but I don't know what is meant by 'trust in the RF'. They do the job assigned to them by the British Constitution very well indeed, they smile and nod in the right places and don't mess up at ceremonial events. I don't get what trust has to do with any of it. I don't expect to have a personal relationship with any of them.

I wouldn't trust the Sussexes an inch, though. And if anyone moans 'Why bring them into it?', well - the only royals who've betrayed anyone's trust are H & M. Andrew is clearly beyond the pale, but I don't think anyone (esp the RF) would argue with that.

CurlewKate · 23/07/2024 17:05

I never had any trust or faith in them to start with, so none to lose.

Littletadpoles · 23/07/2024 17:43

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