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Spanish press reporting Kate was extremely ill

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vaporrub · 13/03/2024 09:45

I don’t know how credible this is because I saw it on Twitter…

But apparently the media in Spain have reported that Catherine’s surgery was not actually planned, did not go smoothly and she was actually very sick/possibly in a coma for a period of time. And there has been a press blackout in the UK.

Could there be any truth in this? I’m struggling to see WHY something like that would be ‘hidden’ anyway 🤔

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EdinMissy · 13/03/2024 14:24

Is Spanish media a euphemism for Mumsnet?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/03/2024 14:24

No idea, but it's said one of their nannies is Spanish and she went home during that time. Make of that what you may

Because of course a valued employee in one of the most prestigious jobs in the UK (if not the world) is going to start flapping her yap about her employers knowing if they find out it was her she'll be out on her ear and unemployable by any rich power couple that values discretion and loyalty.

I mean, I know people are gullible but come on

Noneofourbusiness · 13/03/2024 14:26

I really hope Kate is ok. The mass hysteria and conspiracy theories are wild. For all we know she could have sadly lost a child she was carrying and just wants to grieve in peace. KP should never have put that photo out, that was a big mistake. They should have issued a simple statement along the lines of Kate remains in recovery and is expected back to work after Easter.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 13/03/2024 14:28

eise · 13/03/2024 14:21

No idea, but it's said one of their nannies is Spanish and she went home during that time. Make of that what you may.

Maria Borallo their nanny of ten years you mean? Yes it makes perfect sense she took annual leave and rushed to the Spanish press to tell them the real truth of Kate’s illness.

Freakinfraser · 13/03/2024 14:28

myrtleWilson · 13/03/2024 14:19

Re the Vogue story - The BBC had Prof Hany Farid on the other day. He specialises in analysis of digital images and is Dean of School of Information at Berkeley. He said to the BBC 'there is nothing to suggest C's face was added in after the photo was taken'

you Need to look at rhe words he’s used. He’s been very specific and dodged the question.

it’s a pixel swap. Swapped from other images. Possibly even ones taken seconds before hand. There is no doubt about that. But linguistically of course Kate’s face was not added in after the photo. That is factually correct. Kate was always in the photo. She was also not headless. Neither was it someone else. But the pixels in the face have been swapped with other images to create a composite image.

the file shows the pixels have been compressed around her face, that’s had the heaviest editing and it’s a composite image of pixels from other photos.

so her face wasn’t added in after. Her whole head wasn’t added in or swapped. That’s not what happened and those are very carefully chosen words.

is it a pixel swap with other images to create a composite image.

yes.

EdinMissy · 13/03/2024 14:31

Freakinfraser · 13/03/2024 14:28

you Need to look at rhe words he’s used. He’s been very specific and dodged the question.

it’s a pixel swap. Swapped from other images. Possibly even ones taken seconds before hand. There is no doubt about that. But linguistically of course Kate’s face was not added in after the photo. That is factually correct. Kate was always in the photo. She was also not headless. Neither was it someone else. But the pixels in the face have been swapped with other images to create a composite image.

the file shows the pixels have been compressed around her face, that’s had the heaviest editing and it’s a composite image of pixels from other photos.

so her face wasn’t added in after. Her whole head wasn’t added in or swapped. That’s not what happened and those are very carefully chosen words.

is it a pixel swap with other images to create a composite image.

yes.

So she beautified herself on a family portrait. And? Good for her I say.

Chypre · 13/03/2024 14:32

I find it fascinating how generally no one gives a damn about Kate opening yet another library somewhere in The Great Snorington, but as soon as she dared to stop all hell breaks lose.

justasking111 · 13/03/2024 14:34

I remember being shocked and Kim Kardashian uber annoyed by unfiltered pics of her ass which were as dimpled as an English crumpet cellulite wise. After that I believe nothing

Emotionalsupportviper · 13/03/2024 14:34

whirlyhead · 13/03/2024 14:24

People really have got too much time on their hands... OP, haven't you got an oven that needs cleaning, as mine does if you have a spare half an hour (as I assume you do!)

Mine needs cleaning, too, but will take a damn sight longer than half an hour because it's minging! <not remotely ashamed>

When you've finished Whirley's you can do mine @vaporrub .

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eise · 13/03/2024 14:34

BigWillyLittleTodger · 13/03/2024 14:28

Maria Borallo their nanny of ten years you mean? Yes it makes perfect sense she took annual leave and rushed to the Spanish press to tell them the real truth of Kate’s illness.

I don't know these people personally, it's what's out in the media.

BenefitWaffle · 13/03/2024 14:37

Freakinfraser · 13/03/2024 14:28

you Need to look at rhe words he’s used. He’s been very specific and dodged the question.

it’s a pixel swap. Swapped from other images. Possibly even ones taken seconds before hand. There is no doubt about that. But linguistically of course Kate’s face was not added in after the photo. That is factually correct. Kate was always in the photo. She was also not headless. Neither was it someone else. But the pixels in the face have been swapped with other images to create a composite image.

the file shows the pixels have been compressed around her face, that’s had the heaviest editing and it’s a composite image of pixels from other photos.

so her face wasn’t added in after. Her whole head wasn’t added in or swapped. That’s not what happened and those are very carefully chosen words.

is it a pixel swap with other images to create a composite image.

yes.

Thanks for this. I have read people saying Kate's head had been swapped in and others saying it has not. This explains it really well to a total amateur like me, so thanks.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/03/2024 14:37

eise · 13/03/2024 14:34

I don't know these people personally, it's what's out in the media.

I don't know them personally either. I can think critically, though, and assess the likelihood of a valued and trusted employee of a decade kicking a job many would kill for into touch in quite such a majorly stupid way.

Bumblebeeinatree · 13/03/2024 14:37

CaveMum · 13/03/2024 09:59

Most likely explanation is she has had surgery to treat a prolapse after 3 pregnancies. Mundane, but not exactly the kind of thing you want to broadcast - I certainly wouldn’t want the state of my pelvic floor being discussed worldwide!

My understanding is that sort of surgery take a fair while to recover from - hence the extended time away from the public.

I had a prolapse repair, went home next day, and was fine within a few days (and I'm much older than her) worst thing was waiting an extra 12 hours for the surgery, while sitting on a bench, wearing a surgical gown, with no food or drink, having fasted already from the night before.

But agree I would guess an intimate problem of some sort.

mathanxiety · 13/03/2024 14:38

All2Well · 13/03/2024 11:18

Why are you now attempting to drag me into an argument about Meghan?

This is a horrible thread as it is. Let's not make it worse.

Please don't quote or tag me.

It's not an argument about Meghan per se.

It's pointing out that there are elements in the press who think they can have it both ways.

The very obvious partisanship discredits the press.

Mirabai · 13/03/2024 14:38

Freakinfraser · 13/03/2024 14:18

I suspect there is a media black out on Kate in the uk in terms of her recovery, but they can do articles on say the photo manipulation or William going to an event with her beside him in the car. And of course the palace wanted that photo to be seen.

i think there is a media blackout and there is something they all want to say and can’t.

There isn’t a media blackout in the conventional sense - which means news teams know the true story but are not running it. For example - when Blair was in government, one of his offspring attempted suicide as a teen - that story was subject to blackout.

My friends in news tell me that there is no blackout - genuinely no-one knows what’s going on. According to Private Eye - only the KP inner circle know, Buckingham Palace don’t know.

SolitaryinNature · 13/03/2024 14:38

The Princess of Wales is going to come out of this with icon status. She has unwittingly turned herself into an enigma. In PR terms, by essentially 'disappearing' she has become the most talked about woman on the planet. She has become like Diana in terms of global interest, or Jackie O. When she does finally emerge, it will be the biggest come back since JR in Dallas.

BenefitWaffle · 13/03/2024 14:41

It is quite extraordinary if Private Eye are right and Buckingham Palace does not know what is going on with Kate.

karmasarelaxingthought · 13/03/2024 14:41

I work for a national newspaper

No one, including the royal correspondent with excellent contacts, has a clue what is going on. Wish we did as my Mum asks me 20 times a day.

CantDealwithChristmas · 13/03/2024 14:42

Mirabai · 13/03/2024 14:38

There isn’t a media blackout in the conventional sense - which means news teams know the true story but are not running it. For example - when Blair was in government, one of his offspring attempted suicide as a teen - that story was subject to blackout.

My friends in news tell me that there is no blackout - genuinely no-one knows what’s going on. According to Private Eye - only the KP inner circle know, Buckingham Palace don’t know.

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Yeah and to be fair the story about Kathryn wasn't a formal balckout as such. Alistair Campbell just phoned all the editors and asked them for the sake of decency not to write on it. Which they didn't, and that was the right decision.

It was reported on widely across Europe tho.

But anyway this was all pre-internet and the high-ups could genuinely get stuff spiked by picking up the phone to Fleet Street's finest. Not possible in this day and age.

Lalgarh · 13/03/2024 14:43

SolitaryinNature · 13/03/2024 14:38

The Princess of Wales is going to come out of this with icon status. She has unwittingly turned herself into an enigma. In PR terms, by essentially 'disappearing' she has become the most talked about woman on the planet. She has become like Diana in terms of global interest, or Jackie O. When she does finally emerge, it will be the biggest come back since JR in Dallas.

A latter day Scott Walker! Or maybe Greta Garbo

Sparetoes · 13/03/2024 14:44

karmasarelaxingthought · 13/03/2024 14:41

I work for a national newspaper

No one, including the royal correspondent with excellent contacts, has a clue what is going on. Wish we did as my Mum asks me 20 times a day.

That in itself is weird, and something of a miracle, bearing in mind the number of people who must know something?

Panama2 · 13/03/2024 14:44

I wish it would all stop. They put out a photo so what it was edited big deal nearly every photo that is published of anyone or anything is edited. The Daily Fail had her "Globally humiliated " really? Why all the outlandish speculation is there something else going on in the world they don't us to know about.

Please leave the poor woman alone and her family do you think the children haven't found out what is being said. At the end of the day the press don't now anything and all the conspiracy theorists on here don't either.

eise · 13/03/2024 14:47

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/03/2024 14:37

I don't know them personally either. I can think critically, though, and assess the likelihood of a valued and trusted employee of a decade kicking a job many would kill for into touch in quite such a majorly stupid way.

Good for you hooray for thinking critically. Look out for your prize in the post.
I think you answered your own question there. Not everyone is smart! If she isn't then it's quite possibly her.

Sparetoes · 13/03/2024 14:48

Panama2 · 13/03/2024 14:44

I wish it would all stop. They put out a photo so what it was edited big deal nearly every photo that is published of anyone or anything is edited. The Daily Fail had her "Globally humiliated " really? Why all the outlandish speculation is there something else going on in the world they don't us to know about.

Please leave the poor woman alone and her family do you think the children haven't found out what is being said. At the end of the day the press don't now anything and all the conspiracy theorists on here don't either.

How many times? It isn't just a photo. It was sent to news agencies to "prove" that all is well. Which it may be, but the changes (among other things) mean that is in question. It is absolutely right that the press and public question what they are given as fact by public figures.

It's been astonishingly badly handled by KP, but it is right that it's getting scrutiny.

It's not about her health, it's about sending a faked picture to the news agencies. It's really not about making sure her hair looked good and Louis was looking at the camera.

WishIMite · 13/03/2024 14:49

As a disabled person I feel about cross about it all. There’s such a massive stigma around illness/disability that KP can’t even talk about it.

The rest of the world don’t get to take months off work and not tell their employer why. I honestly think whatever the issue, talking about it would make a real statement in terms of role modelling anti-stigma around disability and illness.

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