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Spanish press reporting Kate was extremely ill

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vaporrub · 13/03/2024 09:45

I don’t know how credible this is because I saw it on Twitter…

But apparently the media in Spain have reported that Catherine’s surgery was not actually planned, did not go smoothly and she was actually very sick/possibly in a coma for a period of time. And there has been a press blackout in the UK.

Could there be any truth in this? I’m struggling to see WHY something like that would be ‘hidden’ anyway 🤔

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Anonymousemouses · 13/03/2024 17:34

Inkanta · 13/03/2024 15:57

There aren't any signs their marriage is in trouble. Nothing.

And yet both the Independent and Tatler published articles about the woman mentioned in @Whalesong's link (although Tatler later withdrew their article)! The same woman who was named by foreign press, a friend of Kate's who she apparently fell out with (or at least suddenly stopped associating with after a seemingly close friendship.

Of course it means (and probably is), nothing. But I wonder why they would publish an article, without any context, about a woman who is not royal, nor in any way interesting/famous/doing anything newsworthy at this time.

The article (without context), was published on Monday. Sometimes it's not what is said, rather than what isn't.

IcedPurple · 13/03/2024 17:38

Mirabai · 13/03/2024 17:24

Of course it’s a mystery to Private Eye! But the whole point of the article is that it’s a mystery to everyone else as well other than W&K’s closet circle.

Which is exactly what I'd expect from someone at that level of fame.

Marmunia106675 · 13/03/2024 17:38

Freakinfraser · 13/03/2024 17:30

It was a composite Image, she was there.

Her head is from a Vogue shoot some years ago.

Freakinfraser · 13/03/2024 17:40

Marmunia106675 · 13/03/2024 17:38

Her head is from a Vogue shoot some years ago.

It’s not actually and many experts have revealed why it can’t be .

Sparetoes · 13/03/2024 17:41

Marmunia106675 · 13/03/2024 17:38

Her head is from a Vogue shoot some years ago.

That seems highly unlikely to me. Even if it was an attempt to make her look much better than she does, to choose an image from a world famous magazine cover would be spectacularly stupid, even in light of this week's spectacular stupidity from KP

PinkTonic · 13/03/2024 17:42

Anonymousemouses · 13/03/2024 17:34

And yet both the Independent and Tatler published articles about the woman mentioned in @Whalesong's link (although Tatler later withdrew their article)! The same woman who was named by foreign press, a friend of Kate's who she apparently fell out with (or at least suddenly stopped associating with after a seemingly close friendship.

Of course it means (and probably is), nothing. But I wonder why they would publish an article, without any context, about a woman who is not royal, nor in any way interesting/famous/doing anything newsworthy at this time.

The article (without context), was published on Monday. Sometimes it's not what is said, rather than what isn't.

Because the social media bots and trolls were trying to give that story legs again and the papers know that people will be googling, so they publish the piece so that it comes up on google and they get the clicks. It’s a very common tactic. Nice eh?

DriftingDora · 13/03/2024 17:43

mardylookingfrump · 13/03/2024 09:53

Finally, a thread about Kate!

😂

Mirabai · 13/03/2024 17:46

IcedPurple · 13/03/2024 17:38

Which is exactly what I'd expect from someone at that level of fame.

Well at the level of the King’s fame the public was told he has some kind of cancer. That’s what’s expected at that level.

Lalgarh · 13/03/2024 17:49
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The Evening Standard are now getting in on the click bait factoid act.

https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/lady-rose-hanbury-marchioness-of-cholmondeley-princess-kate-best-friend-childhood-children-marriage-b1144827.html

"Party loving" and "Saltburnesque" upbringing 👀🙀

IcedPurple · 13/03/2024 17:50

Mirabai · 13/03/2024 17:46

Well at the level of the King’s fame the public was told he has some kind of cancer. That’s what’s expected at that level.

They aren't at the same level.

The King is Head of State and has an important constitutional role.

Kate is a senior royal, but does not have a role in the functioning of the state. So they are very different.

And Charles' candour isn't 'what's expected'. It's quite unusual for a royal, as has been remarked upon. That's great if he felt comfortable revealing information about his diagnosis, but Kate isn't obliged to feel the same way. We were told she'd had abdominal surgery and the plan is she will be seen again at Easter, with updates only if considered necessary.

What level of information do you feel entitled to about the health of the Princess of Wales?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 13/03/2024 17:58

WishIMite · 13/03/2024 16:12

And ironically, the royals who have done this really well in raising awareness of disability have been Harry and Meghan, talking openly about mental illness and PTSD. That’s the kind of role modelling that I think is really positive.

Discussing your possible hysterectomy/prolapse or bowel operation is not in anyway the same as discussing mental health or PTSD and you know it, just in case you forgot it was actually Kate, William and Harry who set up Heads Together to end the stigma around mental health, before Meghan was even the scene.

MeinKraft · 13/03/2024 18:00

JustSeethingPat · 13/03/2024 17:15

What I don't understand about these threads though, why do people feel that eating disorders, mental illness, suicide attempt are so wildly implausible. These are very real things that affect people all the time. Are they likely to affect someone who is subject to intense media scrutiny, royal protocol, endless public appearances, family feuds, relatives turning on you, media speculation about your family, marriage, health, sex kids, fertility... well yes. It is much much more likely that Kate is under immense pressure and her mental health could be spiralling, it's as likely as it is a physical health concern. People absolutely shouldn't be speculating on it or starting relentless threads but it is not unrealistic to consider her mental health.

Rather than shouting at those who are interested and gossiping, maybe direct your rage at the immoral and restrictive structure of the monarchy. Those kids have not consented to be born into this family and have the intense glare of the world, like the Truman show but a thousand times worse.

Yes! Also 1 in 4 women experience domestic violence. Do any of us not know a woman who's suffered DV? I know plenty. I'm not saying that's what it is. But it's not mad off the wall David Icke theories people are discussing. They're real things that happen to real people, and the RF are real people (not lizards)

commonsense61 · 13/03/2024 18:01

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DodoTired · 13/03/2024 18:08

Ohpleeeease · 13/03/2024 17:01

Re the link to The Olive Press, I wouldn’t rely on it for hard news, they give it away free outside supermarkets. Handy for What’s on and local community news but that’s about it.

There was a link earlier in this thread to El Pais

ttcat37 · 13/03/2024 18:10

Jesus, another Kate thread. Get a life

Littlemisscapable · 13/03/2024 18:11

DepartureLounge · 13/03/2024 17:16

I honestly think whatever the issue, talking about it would make a real statement in terms of role modelling anti-stigma around disability and illness.

I think this too. As well as having her own socially responsible "check your prostate, people" moment it would also have been an opportunity to get out from under the yoke of always having to look physically perfect, which I assume is very, very tiresome and only likely to get worse as she ages, under circumstances where she would have had nothing but sympathy.

The fact that that opportunity hasn't been seized makes me think that for whatever reason she really isn't remotely presentable, and I suspect the "they said it would be easter and it isn't easter yet" crowd are going to have to reschedule their excitement, because the use of the stupid, deceitful photo makes me think she isn't likely to be presentable for quite some time to come.

I seriously question whether either of the car photos was her. The one with her mother looks like Pippa Middleton and the one with William the other day could be anyone. God knows what the RF is playing at. I don't want or need to know anything about KM's private medical stuff, but all this lying to the news media is morally unacceptable and totally unsustainable. They gambled on her recovering quickly enough that their lies wouldn't come out and it increasingly looks like they've lost.

I really hope the mistrust all of this engenders amongst everyone but the simpering subjects will be a catalyst for the end of the monarchy. Releasing propaganda via the news agencies is hopefully a step too far for those who have been neutral about them until now. Let's release them into the wild and hope that the next generation at least will be mentally healthier.

This x 1000000. This is the best response on all the different threads about this topic.

Epidote · 13/03/2024 18:12

@vaporrub I've heard that she is changing skin because she is also reptilian. No kidding, conspiracies theories are all over the place.

Sparetoes · 13/03/2024 18:12

ttcat37 · 13/03/2024 18:10

Jesus, another Kate thread. Get a life

There has to be so many because people keep filling them up with comments like that 🤣 It's quite easy to stay away if you're not interested.

Mummame222 · 13/03/2024 18:14

I don’t give a shit about Kate Middleton but what does fuck me off is the UK media being banned from reporting the fucking truth whilst the rest of the world knows it. Thats dangerous, dystopian territory. I would expect that in Russia not the UK. The same happened when Borris made his daughter or sister whatever she was a peer and gave her a job for life. It’s worrying behaviour, we should all be respected and offered privacy but if us humble peasants aren’t they shouldn’t be awarded special privileges, they already get enough of them.

Snippit · 13/03/2024 18:15

On my good god, can’t everyone just stop with their conspiracy theories and leave the poor woman alone!

ttcat37 · 13/03/2024 18:15

Sparetoes · 13/03/2024 18:12

There has to be so many because people keep filling them up with comments like that 🤣 It's quite easy to stay away if you're not interested.

It isn’t though, as the trending threads have been ten a penny with this boring conspiracy shit despite the fact they said right at the beginning she’d be off work for ages

Serenster · 13/03/2024 18:16

Ambulance called to Sandringham with a police escort on Dec 28th

I’d just like to point out that this is a complete fabrication - no-one has any evidence whatsoever of an ambulance called to Sandringham on this date.

What has been shared on social media is a two second clip someone filmed of a Land Rover car with a police escort in what looks like Marylebone on this date. No ambulance. No indication it’s even Kate in the car (royals aren’t the only ones in London who have these kind of secure travel arrangements) . No idea where they are going to.

So it’s a complete supposition based on a single snippet of “evidence”, the facts of which are completely unknown.

(Not least the utter stupidity of thinking that if Kate was suffering a medical emergency that required her to be blue-lighted out of Sandringham, she would be driven the 100 miles from Norfolk to London for treatment. There are NHS hospitals in Norfolk. The Royal family go there if it’s a genuine emergency - like Sophie’s placental abruption. Also they have ready access to helicopters…)

JudgeJ · 13/03/2024 18:19

BenefitWaffle · 13/03/2024 15:57

I do trust Private Eye. They have been proven right again and again about stories.

They're certainly more reliable than some of the Spanish trashy gossip rags.

silverneedle · 13/03/2024 18:27

The U.K. obviously has an awful tabloid press that publishes a lot of guff and nonsense, plus manipulation, but I believe the US National Enquirer publishes fantastical stories that are outright fabrications/lies. If there is a section of Spanish press (I presume the stories are coming from their tabloids not broadsheets) whose standard is at the National Enquirer level and it is from this kind of paper that are making claims about Kate then the credibility of such stories would be close to zero.

OhcantthInkofaname · 13/03/2024 18:30

justasking111 · 13/03/2024 10:11

Can't Mumsnet just kill these Kate threads. I thought they were all about protecting women rather than making them click bait. Kate is first a woman, mum. Not advertising fodder.

They haven't stopped the disparaging threads on her, or the ones on Harry and Meghan.