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Spanish press reporting Kate was extremely ill

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vaporrub · 13/03/2024 09:45

I don’t know how credible this is because I saw it on Twitter…

But apparently the media in Spain have reported that Catherine’s surgery was not actually planned, did not go smoothly and she was actually very sick/possibly in a coma for a period of time. And there has been a press blackout in the UK.

Could there be any truth in this? I’m struggling to see WHY something like that would be ‘hidden’ anyway 🤔

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MrsLeonFarrell · 13/03/2024 16:55

Mirabai · 13/03/2024 16:48

And goes on to say “the true state of her health remains a mystery”.

A mystery to Private Eye, why should they know details about her health?

Zanatdy · 13/03/2024 16:59

This whole Kate thing shows how many crazy people there are in this world. God forbid she’s recovering from a surgery that she wishes to remain private. Get a life

Icannoteven · 13/03/2024 17:00

I heard (in TikTok, so not a hugely reliable source) that Kate’s Spanish nanny went back to Spain shortly after Kate was admitted to hospital and hasn’t been seen since. Does anyone know of this is true?

It is very interesting because the Spanish news outlets were quoting an inside source at the palace.

All I know is that I absolutely do not believe the official line on any of this. There are too many strange happenings - no explanation for the ambulance on 28th December, the shifting time lines we keep being given for Kates recovery, the doctored photo’s. It is all a bit sketchy.

and for what it’s worth I don’t give a fig about the royals privacy (especially for someone who married into the family). Their whole JOB revolves around their family/private life.

Gstaad · 13/03/2024 17:01

Princess of Wales photo conspiracies debunked
By Victoria Ward

The photograph of the Princess of Wales and her children was intended to reassure the public by quashing wild social media theories about her health and whereabouts.
Kensington Palace hoped that the first authorised picture of the mother of three since Christmas Day would put an end to the speculation by showing that she was alive and recovering well from abdominal surgery.
However their intentions may have done the opposite, prompting another flood of conspiracy theories.
The Princess’s admission that she had edited the image created uncertainty and suspicion about every element of the picture and the decision to release it.
An unexpected sighting of her in a vehicle with the Prince of Wales on Monday, despite the fact that they were headed to different destinations, prompted further curiosity.
Vogue vexationOne of the theories that gained the most traction on social media was that the Princess had taken the photograph of herself that featured on the cover of Vogue magazine in 2016 and superimposed it on the family portrait.
The claim was dreamt up by Ruby Naldrett, the social media editor for the Daily Mirror, after she dug out the Vogue cover and shared it in a group chat with her friends, who “agreed instantly” that it was a perfect match.
The reporter published her “analysis” on X, formerly Twitter, and it quickly went viral with more than 42 million views and nearly 3,000 comments.
Naldrett has admitted it is pure speculation and she has no evidence to support her claims.
“It’s just a theory and it could be wrong,” she said.

Eliot Higgins, the founder of the Bellingcat investigative research agency, which identified Sergei Skripal’s Russian poisoners, said that when he first saw the Vogue theory, he thought it was a “parody”.
He wrote on X: “If you actually look closely at the details you’ll see numerous small differences. Great way to get clicks, if you don’t care about your credibility.”
He highlighted differences between the two images such as the reflection in the Princess’s eye, lower teeth being clearer in the smile, more wrinkles and lines and differences with the eyelashes.
Flourishing foliage Many conspiracy theorists pointed to the green leaves on the trees in the background of the photograph as proof that it was not genuine.
They claimed the trees would not be green so early in the year.
Horticultural experts rejected the claims, insisting that the mild winter meant that many plants and trees were currently in leaf in the UK.
The photograph was taken at the family home, Adelaide Cottage in the grounds of Windsor Great Park, which is also awash with greenery.
Baffling bricksMany have claimed that the photograph of the Princess seated alongside her husband in a black Range Rover as it drove through Datchet High Street on Monday had been faked.
One post on X, with more than 100,000 views, claimed the bricks in the background did not match up while another insisted that the silhouette of the Princess had been superimposed from another photograph taken in 2016.
The Telegraph has spoken to the photographer who captured the image. They admit it was a “lucky” shot and that they had no idea the Princess would be travelling with the Prince.
Royal insiders put such claims down to “hysteria” that has gotten out of hand.
Divorcing delusionsThe fact that the Princess was not wearing her wedding or engagement rings in the portrait only served to fan the flames.
The absence of jewellery was particularly noticeable because her diamond and sapphire engagement ring is so recognisable, having once belonged to Princess Diana.
Conspiracy theorists claimed it meant the Prince and Princess were headed for divorce.
More sensible sources pointed out that major surgery required the removal of jewellery and that certain types of treatment led to weight gain and weight loss.
Others noted the photograph was taken at home and had been taken by Prince William. The Princess does not always wear her engagement ring.
Clothing confusionOne conspiracy theory that gained traction on TikTok focused on the fact that Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis wore almost identical outfits as they did when visiting a baby bank in Maidenhead last November.

Allyn Aston said: “I’m kinda thinking that they probably took this photo on the day of that event back in November when they filmed it [the visit]... but of course they’re not going to release a picture that’s supposed to be brand new with them all in the same outfits from a publicised event, so they just kinda tinkered it a little bit.”
She told viewers: “They’re definitely pulling the wool over your eyes with this one.”

Well-placed sources told The Telegraph that the photograph was taken last Friday in Windsor.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2024/03/12/princess-of-wales-conspiracies-debunked/

Princess of Wales photo conspiracies debunked

The Mother’s Day photograph was meant to reassure but reignited the rumour mill with unsubstantiated claims

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2024/03/12/princess-of-wales-conspiracies-debunked/

Ohpleeeease · 13/03/2024 17:01

Re the link to The Olive Press, I wouldn’t rely on it for hard news, they give it away free outside supermarkets. Handy for What’s on and local community news but that’s about it.

AInightingale · 13/03/2024 17:01

Noneofourbusiness · 13/03/2024 14:26

I really hope Kate is ok. The mass hysteria and conspiracy theories are wild. For all we know she could have sadly lost a child she was carrying and just wants to grieve in peace. KP should never have put that photo out, that was a big mistake. They should have issued a simple statement along the lines of Kate remains in recovery and is expected back to work after Easter.

Yes. Funnily enough I was thinking that - an unviable pregnancy perhaps, followed by a hysterectomy, a tragic event. It would be absolutely horrific to have to endure that while the world speculates like this,

RamblingAroundTheInternet · 13/03/2024 17:01

BenefitWaffle · 13/03/2024 16:50

@RamblingAroundTheInternet Kate is important to the monarchy.

Yes she is important and has played an excellent role in it but it’s not like if she was on her deathbed or even dead, that would would need to be covered up until a shock new heir to the throne was announced. William is the heir and he’s alive and kicking!

Freakinfraser · 13/03/2024 17:02

Zanatdy · 13/03/2024 16:59

This whole Kate thing shows how many crazy people there are in this world. God forbid she’s recovering from a surgery that she wishes to remain private. Get a life

100 percent, it’s like you can’t even beleive what you’re reading.

she’s dead, she’s had a mental breakdown, it’s a eating disorder, she’s in a coma, she’s left him, she’s had a stoma, she’s had a prolapse, it is like you can’t even believe these people walk amongst us, thinking mad shit.

Itwasafterallallaboutme · 13/03/2024 17:02

This is actually the first thread about Catherine that I am responding to (well I'm about 85% certain about that!), and I only have something very simple to add - I will probably be about the 537th person to say this over all the threads, but Hay Ho, I will say it anyway:

At least in the NHS, a planned operation can mean that a patient has turned up at A&E because they are suffering from an acute or traumatic episode, which it turns out means they need an urgent operation, but instead of operating on them straight away, the medics want to wait for logistical reasons until they can operate under optimal conditions. So they plan that the operation will take place at 8.00am the following morning, or they plan that it will take place in 3.5 hours, when - let's say - the surgeon who gets the best results for that kind of operation, can get there without being too rushed or harrassed to be there.

Now something like a burst bowel, or a haemorrhaging Uterus for example, would in all likelihood have to take place as soon as it was physically possible; whereas a 'constantly dribbling of blood from a Uterus' that it hasn't been possible to stop due to some serious and urgent, but not immediately life threatening reason, could be "scheduled/planned" to happen in a few hours time, so that the best team for that particular operation, can be gathered together.

I can quite easily imagine that one of the Royal Family's Consultants was called to Adelaide Cottage to attend to Catherine, and that the Consultant arranged for her to have an operation at the hospital of choice (as they will almost certainly be operating privately) early the next morning. That is therefore, a planned operation. As far as I know, Kensington Palace did not say it was for an operation planned a month or two ago.

CantDealwithChristmas · 13/03/2024 17:04

Spain has hours and hours of prime TV devoted to gossip. They have “royalty experts” that make the most ridiculous mistakes all the time. The gossip about the coronation was pathetic.

Allow me to introduce you to Nicolas Witchell

pizzaHeart · 13/03/2024 17:05

I’m sure that her operation was unplanned and she was very unwell. I don’t think by the way that it’s Crohn disease or anything similar, it could be something very banal e.g appendicitis. A relative of mine much younger than Kate nearly died from appendicitis.
I think KP did a mistake telling us from the very beginning: “Oh, nothing serious, just a planned procedure.“ Even a planned procedure can go wrong but unplanned can 10 times more go wrong. And now there is a pressure for Kate to come back to her public duties straight after Easter whereas these plans were made before things went wrong and therefore might be a bit unrealistic. And KP can’t tell different story now as they’ve told already that it was planned surgery and all went well before it actually ended up well.
Hope she is on the mend now and had a chance to recover properly.

vaporrub · 13/03/2024 17:08

I wasn’t particularly interested until the photo was released then retracted. It doesn’t make any sense why they did that, and doesn’t stack up with what we’ve been told.

I do agree that theories about her being dead or whatever are absolutely ridiculous though.

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JustSeethingPat · 13/03/2024 17:15

What I don't understand about these threads though, why do people feel that eating disorders, mental illness, suicide attempt are so wildly implausible. These are very real things that affect people all the time. Are they likely to affect someone who is subject to intense media scrutiny, royal protocol, endless public appearances, family feuds, relatives turning on you, media speculation about your family, marriage, health, sex kids, fertility... well yes. It is much much more likely that Kate is under immense pressure and her mental health could be spiralling, it's as likely as it is a physical health concern. People absolutely shouldn't be speculating on it or starting relentless threads but it is not unrealistic to consider her mental health.

Rather than shouting at those who are interested and gossiping, maybe direct your rage at the immoral and restrictive structure of the monarchy. Those kids have not consented to be born into this family and have the intense glare of the world, like the Truman show but a thousand times worse.

SmashedPrawnsInAMilkyBasket · 13/03/2024 17:16

Calliopespa · 13/03/2024 15:50

Unforgiveable thread detail but please could you explain your username( im stuck on bed rest and bored to death of the Kate sagas. Yes she’s been ill, no she’s not disappeared, yes she seems camera shy and tweaked the shot a little). If it’s a recipe it sounds disgusting… please expand !

😁 It’s from a Julia Davis comedy, Night Night. Her (very twisted) character serves this delectable combo to dinner guests.

DepartureLounge · 13/03/2024 17:16

I honestly think whatever the issue, talking about it would make a real statement in terms of role modelling anti-stigma around disability and illness.

I think this too. As well as having her own socially responsible "check your prostate, people" moment it would also have been an opportunity to get out from under the yoke of always having to look physically perfect, which I assume is very, very tiresome and only likely to get worse as she ages, under circumstances where she would have had nothing but sympathy.

The fact that that opportunity hasn't been seized makes me think that for whatever reason she really isn't remotely presentable, and I suspect the "they said it would be easter and it isn't easter yet" crowd are going to have to reschedule their excitement, because the use of the stupid, deceitful photo makes me think she isn't likely to be presentable for quite some time to come.

I seriously question whether either of the car photos was her. The one with her mother looks like Pippa Middleton and the one with William the other day could be anyone. God knows what the RF is playing at. I don't want or need to know anything about KM's private medical stuff, but all this lying to the news media is morally unacceptable and totally unsustainable. They gambled on her recovering quickly enough that their lies wouldn't come out and it increasingly looks like they've lost.

I really hope the mistrust all of this engenders amongst everyone but the simpering subjects will be a catalyst for the end of the monarchy. Releasing propaganda via the news agencies is hopefully a step too far for those who have been neutral about them until now. Let's release them into the wild and hope that the next generation at least will be mentally healthier.

Calliopespa · 13/03/2024 17:17

Freakinfraser · 13/03/2024 17:02

100 percent, it’s like you can’t even beleive what you’re reading.

she’s dead, she’s had a mental breakdown, it’s a eating disorder, she’s in a coma, she’s left him, she’s had a stoma, she’s had a prolapse, it is like you can’t even believe these people walk amongst us, thinking mad shit.

You forgot the getting divorced .

Calliopespa · 13/03/2024 17:18

Calliopespa · 13/03/2024 17:17

You forgot the getting divorced .

Oh no: it’s in there. What about sex change ( hence no photos or doctored photos).

Its all beyond ridiculous .

Marmunia106675 · 13/03/2024 17:22

A kill notification is issued because a photo is deceptive - ie - pieced together, Catherine was not actually there, or because it was taken at a different time.

The media are combatting these 'conspiracy theories' by running stories shooting them down because their strings are being pulled.

I work in this area. I know how the media operates.

Freakinfraser · 13/03/2024 17:24

That is therefore, a planned operation. As far as I know, Kensington Palace did not say it was for an operation planned a month or two ago

if it was planned much in advance they’d not have had to cancel their engagements. So it was fast. But they couldn’t start cancelling until they announced she was ill as it would have got out she was cancelling. So they left the cancelling to the last min.

clearly the rumours, or the more sane ones, are she was operated on late dec, and there was complications, and then they announced she was post op mid Jan.

So if the first rumour on late dec was true, which I suspect it might be, then the mid Jan one was a second op that was planned and potentially admitted/moved to a different hospital for it. Following what ever emergency happened on the 28 dec.

Mirabai · 13/03/2024 17:24

MrsLeonFarrell · 13/03/2024 16:55

A mystery to Private Eye, why should they know details about her health?

Of course it’s a mystery to Private Eye! But the whole point of the article is that it’s a mystery to everyone else as well other than W&K’s closet circle.

Mirabai · 13/03/2024 17:27

Freakinfraser · 13/03/2024 17:24

That is therefore, a planned operation. As far as I know, Kensington Palace did not say it was for an operation planned a month or two ago

if it was planned much in advance they’d not have had to cancel their engagements. So it was fast. But they couldn’t start cancelling until they announced she was ill as it would have got out she was cancelling. So they left the cancelling to the last min.

clearly the rumours, or the more sane ones, are she was operated on late dec, and there was complications, and then they announced she was post op mid Jan.

So if the first rumour on late dec was true, which I suspect it might be, then the mid Jan one was a second op that was planned and potentially admitted/moved to a different hospital for it. Following what ever emergency happened on the 28 dec.

Surely though if Kate was quite seriously ill and had more than one operation they would just say so. They’re much more likely to get respect and be left alone that way than posting doctored pics.

LookAtThatCritter · 13/03/2024 17:30

Finger injuries and random bruises over the last few months
Ambulance called to Sandringham with a police escort on Dec 28th
2 weeks in hospital and no visits from her kids or family. William visited once, Charles once
Picture of "Kate" in the car with her mum, but wait - the car has 3 wheels on one side and it doesn't look like Kate at all
Photoshopped image for Mother's Day
Photoshopped picture of her supposedly getting in a car with William the day after
William's temper
The press dropping seemingly unrelated articles about Rose
Their Spanish nanny apparently left and went back to Spain, next the Spanish papers are reporting that she's in a coma and after being challenged they said they have an incredibly reputable source

I think she's just had surgery LIKE WE HAVE BEEN TOLD and is spending some time recovering. Maybe there were complications and she just doesn't want to be seen which is totally fair enough. But there is enough weird stuff going on that I understand why rumours are flying everywhere.

Freakinfraser · 13/03/2024 17:30

Marmunia106675 · 13/03/2024 17:22

A kill notification is issued because a photo is deceptive - ie - pieced together, Catherine was not actually there, or because it was taken at a different time.

The media are combatting these 'conspiracy theories' by running stories shooting them down because their strings are being pulled.

I work in this area. I know how the media operates.

It was a composite Image, she was there.

notacooldad · 13/03/2024 17:32

I’m struggling to see WHY something like that would be ‘hidden’ anyway
Because it is private medical information maybe?
She is allowed to keep somethings private.

Calliopespa · 13/03/2024 17:34

SmashedPrawnsInAMilkyBasket · 13/03/2024 17:16

😁 It’s from a Julia Davis comedy, Night Night. Her (very twisted) character serves this delectable combo to dinner guests.

Ahh! Thanks. Is it a good book ? ( casting about for suggestions …)

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