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Spanish press reporting Kate was extremely ill

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vaporrub · 13/03/2024 09:45

I don’t know how credible this is because I saw it on Twitter…

But apparently the media in Spain have reported that Catherine’s surgery was not actually planned, did not go smoothly and she was actually very sick/possibly in a coma for a period of time. And there has been a press blackout in the UK.

Could there be any truth in this? I’m struggling to see WHY something like that would be ‘hidden’ anyway 🤔

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BenefitWaffle · 13/03/2024 15:53

@Whalesong That article quotes from social media. I am unsure why you are posting such an article?

WishIMite · 13/03/2024 15:53

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 13/03/2024 15:41

WishIMite, I think I can understand where you are coming from. Of course Kate can't be forced into being a poster girl for whatever ails her. But I do think that the manipulation of the photo is suggestive of an unfortunate 'imperfections should be hidden from view' narrative. Obviously with hindsight it would have been better not to release the photo. If Kate herself thinks she has to project a perfect image, that's rather sad. If others do, and she was persuaded into the subterfuge, that's even worse.

Yes, that’s definitely part of it. As though illness or disability was something ghastly to be hidden and shameful.

Why not role model something more positive? It would be amazing for women who are going through the same thing to increase understanding of how such illness can impact on you.

No, of course they don’t HAVE to do that. But wouldn’t it be positive, rather than hiding away shamefully like women in “confinement” in the old days?

Sparetoes · 13/03/2024 15:53

IcedPurple · 13/03/2024 15:52

I think this sentence is quite relevant here.

"None of the newspapers have backed up their claims with evidence."

So just as I thought, more rehashed rumours. No different to what's been going on right here on Mumsnet for the past several years. The 'Spanish press' has no more access to inside information than the British press does. I have no idea if these rumours are true or false, but these 'articles' don't really add anything to the discussion.

The British press usually has loads of access to inside information, some of which they print and some they don't. If they really know nothing this time, that's very unusual.

Calliopespa · 13/03/2024 15:54

CantDealwithChristmas · 13/03/2024 13:07

Private Eye is saying that a 'closed circle' within KP knows what's going on but 'Buck House' (as they call it) don't and are ticked off at William's hamfisted attempts to manage the situation.

The Eye, impeccably well-sourced, says that outside of this 'closed circle', no one has even SEEN Kate since she left hospital. By implication not Charles, not anyone. That is genuinely worrying.

Goodness😳😳😳😳!!

Not even seen her?! No one?!

Was it Private Eye or Blind Eye?

beatrix1234 · 13/03/2024 15:54

@vaporrub Could there be any truth in this? I’m struggling to see WHY something like that would be ‘hidden’ anyway?

Because when it comes to media and publishing stuff about the monarchy the laws are different in Spain than in the UK, the monarchy is extremely protected by the media in this country, you just can't publish anything it's all very censored, that doesn't happen in Spain. I speak Spanish fluently (my family is from there) and I follow the news regularly, that's what they've been saying about Catherine, something about an intestinal obstruction and complications, is it true? I have no idea but that's what they say.

BenefitWaffle · 13/03/2024 15:55

It does seem as if a tiny number of people know what is going on with Kate.

BenefitWaffle · 13/03/2024 15:57

I do trust Private Eye. They have been proven right again and again about stories.

Whalesong · 13/03/2024 15:57

IcedPurple · 13/03/2024 15:52

I think this sentence is quite relevant here.

"None of the newspapers have backed up their claims with evidence."

So just as I thought, more rehashed rumours. No different to what's been going on right here on Mumsnet for the past several years. The 'Spanish press' has no more access to inside information than the British press does. I have no idea if these rumours are true or false, but these 'articles' don't really add anything to the discussion.

That was exactly my point. None of all these rumours are substantiated. I mentioned it in response to someone who implied that there must be something to the rumours about her serious illness because it was reported in the Spanish press. They are no more substantiated than the ones about William's alleged affair.

Inkanta · 13/03/2024 15:57

There aren't any signs their marriage is in trouble. Nothing.

Dutchesss · 13/03/2024 15:59

I think we should let Kate recover in peace. I'm aware they are publicly funded but Kate is still a human being who deserves privacy after major surgery.

I'm sure we will all know the details in good time. But for now, I would like to see less online speculation.

areyoutheregod · 13/03/2024 15:59

I hate the online discussions about the exact details of Princess Kate's health and their marriage, just a much as I do the continued discussions on Meghan and Harrys mental health issues, which also take place here and elsewhere. Its one thing to discuss the photo situation, their lack of work ethic or whether we need a monarchy, but to have so many threads asking and speculating on her health and on their marriage is not a good look for a forum which I believe still has a mostly female membership. I know I don't need to come here, but I hope some of you have a think about whether you'd want the same done to you by other parents in the school playground or colleagues at work.

PropertyManager · 13/03/2024 16:02

fabio12 · 13/03/2024 09:48

She had an operation and we were all told she would need to recover. I really don't know why some people are hounding her to be everywhere after this. Leave her alone!

Problem is, under the constitution, since the 1680's the "monarchy" has been in effect under the control of parliament and therefore the people. Put simply we effectively employ them as a figurehead.

As such they need to be transparent to the people - Kate is clearly entitled to privacy on health, but also the public must not be misled. Due to their most unusual position their rights to privacy are limited when it effects the role they are supposed to perform on our behalf.

This nonsense has undermined them, on the other hand the King has been much more open, and as such gained a lot of respect.

Wasntmeanttobelikethis · 13/03/2024 16:02

I see the Royals PR team is working overtime at the Cheltenham races;
pictures of Zara and Mike kissing, yawn zzzzzzzzzz
Eugenie has been wheeled for a few photos
Queen Camilla had to make an appearance
Am expecting Andrew and his sidekick to roll up, laughing and gurning
Is there something being hidden? I honestly don’t understand the dialogue

EdinMissy · 13/03/2024 16:02

WishIMite · 13/03/2024 15:53

Yes, that’s definitely part of it. As though illness or disability was something ghastly to be hidden and shameful.

Why not role model something more positive? It would be amazing for women who are going through the same thing to increase understanding of how such illness can impact on you.

No, of course they don’t HAVE to do that. But wouldn’t it be positive, rather than hiding away shamefully like women in “confinement” in the old days?

So Kate is experiencing some serious, acute trauma and you are berating her to do something positive with it at the same time as she is actually experiencing her trauma and illness? Wow. How about yourself? Why don't you go and do something that's worthy of role modelling rather than picking on a woman who is going through an incredibly difficult time. Or practice some empathy, although I'm sure you'll be telling us all just how worthy and incredibly empathetic you are. Jeeeeeez Louise.

GuinnessBird · 13/03/2024 16:03

The blind defence of Kate is almost as annoying as the people saying that she's in a coma.

I think that whatever it is, we'll know in the next few weeks.

Theunamedcat · 13/03/2024 16:03

Hasn't one of her solicitors come out saying she is dead?

I'm sure we will find out come easter

Mirabai · 13/03/2024 16:05

If Kate has had serious complications after her surgery, or her surgery ended up being longer and more serious than anticipated - then why not just make a statement to that effect, rather than positing doctored pics. The media would have laid off in that case.

EdinMissy · 13/03/2024 16:05

Spanish press sounds like a fancy ironing technique.

Inkanta · 13/03/2024 16:08

EdinMissy · 13/03/2024 16:05

Spanish press sounds like a fancy ironing technique.

😎

IcedPurple · 13/03/2024 16:09

Mirabai · 13/03/2024 16:05

If Kate has had serious complications after her surgery, or her surgery ended up being longer and more serious than anticipated - then why not just make a statement to that effect, rather than positing doctored pics. The media would have laid off in that case.

They don't need to make a 'statement' as it's not yet Easter, which is when they said she'd be resuming public appearances.

They should have just stuck to their guns and not posted any pictures. Or maybe a picture of the kids writing cute cards for her or something like that. I actually thought they had the right strategy after her hospitalisation, not providing unnecessary 'updates' and not giving into concern trolling from the media. We aren't owed details about her medical affairs. But the photoshop debacle has made a right royal mess of their media strategy. As Julia Roberts might say, big mistake. Huge.

WishIMite · 13/03/2024 16:10

EdinMissy · 13/03/2024 16:02

So Kate is experiencing some serious, acute trauma and you are berating her to do something positive with it at the same time as she is actually experiencing her trauma and illness? Wow. How about yourself? Why don't you go and do something that's worthy of role modelling rather than picking on a woman who is going through an incredibly difficult time. Or practice some empathy, although I'm sure you'll be telling us all just how worthy and incredibly empathetic you are. Jeeeeeez Louise.

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I do workplace training as a disabled person explaining the impacts of disability in the workforce and the need for visibility. Is that enough for you?

Carpediemmakeitcount · 13/03/2024 16:11

CaveMum · 13/03/2024 09:59

Most likely explanation is she has had surgery to treat a prolapse after 3 pregnancies. Mundane, but not exactly the kind of thing you want to broadcast - I certainly wouldn’t want the state of my pelvic floor being discussed worldwide!

My understanding is that sort of surgery take a fair while to recover from - hence the extended time away from the public.

Did she push?

WishIMite · 13/03/2024 16:12

EdinMissy · 13/03/2024 16:02

So Kate is experiencing some serious, acute trauma and you are berating her to do something positive with it at the same time as she is actually experiencing her trauma and illness? Wow. How about yourself? Why don't you go and do something that's worthy of role modelling rather than picking on a woman who is going through an incredibly difficult time. Or practice some empathy, although I'm sure you'll be telling us all just how worthy and incredibly empathetic you are. Jeeeeeez Louise.

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And ironically, the royals who have done this really well in raising awareness of disability have been Harry and Meghan, talking openly about mental illness and PTSD. That’s the kind of role modelling that I think is really positive.

fabio12 · 13/03/2024 16:12

PropertyManager · 13/03/2024 16:02

Problem is, under the constitution, since the 1680's the "monarchy" has been in effect under the control of parliament and therefore the people. Put simply we effectively employ them as a figurehead.

As such they need to be transparent to the people - Kate is clearly entitled to privacy on health, but also the public must not be misled. Due to their most unusual position their rights to privacy are limited when it effects the role they are supposed to perform on our behalf.

This nonsense has undermined them, on the other hand the King has been much more open, and as such gained a lot of respect.

And you all wonder why they want to leave the country?
We own them, show us your prolapse Kate, let us judge it and whether you should be made to walk around for our pleasure.
Dance Monkey Dance!
How lovely.

ShepherdMoons · 13/03/2024 16:13

I think the problem is that you can't "kill" conspiracy theories when you continually add fuel to the fire. The Wales' had been scheduled to be in Italy in early 2024 which was puzzling as Kate's surgery had been "planned" at this time.

I thought nothing of it until recently the photographs emerged that had been tinkered with and the emphasis from the Palace on Kate being perfectly okay. No photo would have been better than the photo shopped picture. It's not Kate's fault and, of course, we all wish her well but the Palace have botched everything up. They've made everything look deeply suspicious.