Harry’s security case

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The judgment is in Harry loses High Court challenge over UK security protection www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68421992 See here

I blame the water authorities

A Liz Truss lettuce?!

No, don't support any of the people you mention, or think they have moral standing.

Meghan isn't a 'young mother'.

All generations dislike H&M, by a majority.

I don't know what 'good' has been done by Meghan? Please explain.

She isn't the epitome of 'bad', but that doesn't make her 'good' and without criticism.

I think there is plenty of evidence now about the Sussex Squad.

The recent Nigeria tour, and the First Lady's comments, show that the H&M narrative is quite deluded

Tbh I couldn't care less about the RF or H&M. I do care about the distortion of the truth by the Sussex Squad.

@Tizzwazz celebrities and public figures mostly understand that they can't always have positive press.

I think what I’m mostly tired of in relation to the Sussexes is the constant victimhood. Nothing is ever their fault. Nothing is ever their responsibility. Harry wants someone else to be responsible for his security and that of his family, whilst he wants to be free to live where he wants and do what he wants. He doesn’t want to acknowledge that he was born in to enormous privilege, but with that privilege comes an expectation of living in a certain way, and at least appearing to give something back. Unfortunately there seem to be plenty of people willing to make excuses for them. “It’s the tragedy of his mother’s death, she has been a target
of racism” and so on. Both of these things are true. But how sad that they both seem content to allow these things to define who they are

Just seen The post. Hilarious! Too many gems, but “young mother” stands out. Perhaps she can do an “inspirational” guest spot on Teen Mom US.

This whole thing about security is a "moo point" as Joey would say.
I doubt very much whether he'll be in the UK very much, and if he is, he will get appropriate protection. I think this is really about his own deeper issues

I agree @Maireas, I think there are lots of things going on. He wants what his brother has and he wants the “spectacle” of a security presence. He wants everyone to be positive about him and his wife at all times. He wants to stay in a royal residence, but not just any old royal residence. He gets security if appropriate when he is here and he gets to stay at a Palace but this is still not enough. He keeps shifting the goal posts and that is what is preventing him from spending any time here

Yes, and it's also never going to have a satisfactory conclusion because of this.

The sad thing is that Harry now looks miserable the majority of the time at pubic appearances, he usually looks tense and unhappy and he is unable to conceal it.

Like other posters have said, I believe he really did want out of public life, do the odd charity event here and there, the ones he enjoyed, expected he would keep his security and be living a great life with the love of his life and a little family. However, this is where the freedom flight has landed him and he looks like none of it is enjoyable or interesting or rewarding for him. I think that initial flush of making huge money and being feted by Hollywood and seeing his new wife ecstatic about their newfound celebrity connections eventually wore off. I imagine he is enlightened enough to feel even somewhat humiliated about his new 'rent a royal' life style. I don't think he is that dumb that he can overlook how compromising their situation now looks to the majority of the public.

It is cringeworthy seeing him being pushed and pulled around by a domineering wife in public, who when she does refer to him, it's often in a very condescending tone, 'this one', or the "you can see why I married him !' after a very simplistic speech. His confidence seems to be more and more eroded every time he appears in public.

I think this is spot on.
The ‘cheeky prince’ mask slipped a long time ago.
I think the point about him wanting what his brother has is especially true. Remember when he said “nobody wants the job” - I remember thinking ‘speak for yourself’ and feeling like he actually REALLY wanted the job.

The Sussex Squad are desperate for Meghan to be Queen and I think they either don’t realise how a constitutional monarchy works or they want serious harm to come to the Wale family

The Sussex Squad are desperate for Meghan to be Queen and I think they either don’t realise how a constitutional monarchy works or they want serious harm to come to the Wale family

They also do not understand our relationship with the monarchy. I think that what pie feelings on whether we should have a monarchy or not, given that we do, most people would broadly agree on how they would wish that monarchy to behave. Of course some would prefer more traditional, some more modern but all I think would accept that there are certain things expected of the monarch. And the Sussexes would be none of these

Just thinking about the apparently co-ordinated nature of the Sussex supporters and the vehement anti-Catherine brigade …

Is anyone familiar with Quora? It’s a chat board site where people post questions. They used to even pay some prolific people to post high-traffic questions (they supposedly don’t any more) and one individual called ‘Paul McAllister Todd’ an ‘engineer from South Africa’ has allegedly racked up 1.8k questions!

On May 2, his latest question, described by responders as ‘ghoulish’, ‘disgusting’ and ‘stupid’ was: ‘Can we already assume Princess Kate is dead?’

It attracted a lot of replies, very few of them buying into the trolly narrative. In fact some posters on that thread were/are linking such social media activity directly back to the Sussexes themselves.

Presumably the security services will know all about the actual truth of any co-ordinated activities, and it will be periodically included in their regular briefings to the Heads of State in the US and UK. The Princess of Wales, like it or not, is a significant public figure.

Presumably the security services will know all about the actual truth of any co-ordinated activities, and it will be periodically included in their regular briefings to the Heads of State in the US and UK

I suggested as much on a different thread, AutumnCrow, saying there's a lot which will certainly be known by the family if not by the rest of us

Quite frankly, if it's true that H&M are encouraging this themselves, Harry must be utterly mad to get involved in such dirt - and that's apart from the hypocrisy involved given his mewlings over online lies and abuse

I appreciate he may be stuck between a rock and a hard place now, but his choices are still his own and if they end up biting him he has only himself to blame

IMO the intense bullying of the Wales’s - including the children - online, the rumours, the bullying of the woman NOT having an affair with William, the genuine threats being issued…if Harry is NOT calling it out - and let’s face it, he soon called out when his girlfriend was subjected to unpleasant comments on SM, so he’s not afraid to call out - then hes watching it happen and is doing nothing, and he’s a part of it even if he isn’t commissioning the harassment IMO.

For a man who pissed and moaned that daddy didn’t stand up for him when some articles weren’t being 100% fawning over his wife, he’s a total hypocrite to watch his brothers family, including his cancer stricken wife, being bullied in HIS name and do nothing.

I think Harry is nasty through and through, always was, and I strongly suspect there’s an air of “see how they like it” when it comes to his brother and family’s bullying by the Sussex Squad

As time passes it is more and more obvious that two different worlds did collide. The Royal Family seemed the ultimate step for Meghan but it did not make her happy. She wasn't the main limelight. Meghan appeared to Harry as a saviour - here was someone mirroring him and telling him how badly treated he was. Initially it created a flame where anything seemed possible. Harry thought he was more important than he was. Time has passed and that has been proven time and time again. Life goes on. He wasn't that important as an individual.

I agree. However, I suspect the Nigeria trip is going to be used as a See, what security we had there, they think we are worth it, they looked after us as our status demands stick to beat the UK/Ravec with.

PlacidPenelope

See, what security we had there, they think we are worth it

Maybe. I'm not sure how keen they're going to be to bring up the Nigeria tour after the First Lady's speech.

Maireas

This whole thing about security is a "moo point" as Joey would say

I've always loved this. Probably not quoting it properly but: "A moo point - like, a cow's opinion, right?"
Accompanied by raised palms and puzzled look.
My DDs and I use it a lot.

Was looking at this. It's long and it's tedious and it is SS territory. They are known saying the First Lady isn't that smart among other things. Yes of course King Charles made the First Lady say what she did. 🙄

I think you're right, @AnnieSF - it is to do with status. Very much so.
Being a main player - but he could have maintained much of that, really, especially with the illness of the King and PssoW

I think it is all to do with status or perceived status.

Meant to add Lady Rose slagging off all the aunties!

AnnieSF

Yikes!
Who's the one in the hat?
There's some strange stuff out there.

Charge your glasses…

Raise a sippy cup for those off their bonce on the gripe water. To those who think 42 is still young. To those who routinely defend the indefensible. To those who think those who lie and retract when called out on it are those we should worship. To those who think some are humiliating their idols when, in reality, they make a sterling job of making themselves look daft all by themselves. To those who think some see someone as less than when it is their actions which makes them less than. Yeh. Sure. Let us look on these figures who constantly give us enough material to ridicule them. Let us embrace the older generation and indeed the younger generation who have the wisdom to see things for what they actually are. Let us throw our pearls in the air and rejoice that we possess, deep down, an unerring ability to know that those who insist on throwing themselves to the floor weeping are going to get a carpet burn if they are not careful and that no amount of bronzer is going to hide it. Let us know that the photo opportunity is indeed the raison d’etre of their chosen one and their uncanny knack of finding the camera is an art that only they have truly mastered. And is the only thing they have excelled in. Not to mention knocking all and sundry out of the way so that you may shine. And let us know that those who choose to declare themselves a percentage and go on to choose to foist themselves upon their new country, should also pay heed to their traditions. And remember to wear an outfit that does not flash more than is acceptable or respectful. And to remember to try to make the flashed flesh the same shade as their face. And those who seek dupes will need rolls of tit-tape and a brass neck. And half a hundredweight of bronzer. And to celebrate the dawning realisation that we, the ones that are so oft chastised on here, recognise unconscious streams of drivel when we see them.

Now that is the truth. 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽. Cheers.

But most of all, a proper big lovely cheers to those blessed few who recognise the beauty of bastard paragraphs, for they shall inherit the mirth. 🥂 🐉