Harry’s security case

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The judgment is in Harry loses High Court challenge over UK security protection www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68421992 See here

She’s got the attention span of a a gnat unless she’s being lauded and applauded all the time. She’s like a child.

@Mylovelygreendress that post from Bouzy might work on the “Did the artist look that kings painting” thread 🤷‍♀️😆 ( not complaining about your derail, just that Catherine is being discussed over there)

That's awful. Why is so obsessed?

Feel free to post it there.

Bouzy is disgusting.

Thanks - I will report and ask MNHQ to move

I asked MNHQ to move it but they have withdrawn it 🤦‍♀️

I can well imagine garden parties can be a bit tedious but it’s all part of the role the rf play. There was a thread on M turning to talk to H on the balcony just before the red arrows flew over. That was the first time I read that M was offered and declined support to understand protocol and her role. I still can’t get my head around that if true. Being part of the rf is in a way a job but more like a vocation, and training in any job is essential to understand expectations.

Harry a doting parent? He is away from them all the time exactly what Charles criticised his mother for doing

Good point. Diana was the same, often away from the boys but unlike Charles showed great public affection when around. Saying you are something or appearing some way whilst in front of the cameras is different from actually being that person. Charles is very loving and absolutely dedicated to his boys. He shows quiet love and affection, which is why what has happened must be terrible for him. He isn’t without fault of course. Who is? H&M will hopefully understand their fathers more given time. Parenting older children and especially teens is very very hard.

A doting parent doesn't diss the wider family in extremely damning terms to the whole world. Nor leave their children at every opportunity to court fame and money, leaving their kids with nannies or their one grandparent. Or engage in endless toxic court cases. When those poor children are at school they are going to be mocked and derided.

I think they are both doting parents. Whether they are “good” parents is another matter, they’ve barely started the job yet and haven’t really been tested. But I do think they love their children and want the best for them.

I can’t help raising an eyebrow about all the couples time they seem to need away from the kids, but maybe that tells its own story.

Children don't need 'doting', they need day in, day out consistency based on their needs.

H&M seem very wrapped up in their own needs. I hope I am either wrong about that, or that there is another consistent cater who is capable of putting the children first.

Harry has done what a lot of parents do, trying to do the opposite of his upbringing. He is now at the stage of having to choose privacy or inclusion and I can guarantee he will be judged by them it’s what growing up is about. I can’t judge is parenting skills but the tightrope he is walking of wanting publicity and privacy will begin to implode for his children as they get older. The polo event was a prime example, his children would have probably loved it and instead Harry and Meghan get photographed with other peoples children. The privacy he has given his children is something I admire but I’m not sure how that fits into his chosen lifestyle

I agree. There is a fine line between wanting privacy for the children and keeping them
away from the world like hermits. I’m not sure how long he can keep up the argument that he doesn’t bring them to the UK because of security concerns either, when both he and Meghan have recently visited and been quite safe and also relatively under the radar. They could mange to come over quietly and visit the king if they really wanted to

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Agree, it matters little while the kids are so young but at a certain point, their obsession with privacy and keeping the kids out of sight is surely going to limit the things they can do together as a family.

It will be interesting to see how things develop regarding the children. I'd actually respect them if they tried to ensure they had a normal life, but the fact that they've insisted on giving them prince and princess titles suggests they have other plans.

I wonder what on earth they'll tell them as to why they're completely estranged from their entire extended family other than Doria. I can only assume it will be some version of Harry's narrative in Spare, which is sad as the kids will grow up with the idea that the family don't want to know them, and possibly with some bitter and hurt feelings about that.

The one thing I admired about H and M was their original decision not to give them titles and to keep them out of the public eye .
But the Netflix$$ was too tempting so they were paraded . They then insist on Prince/ Princess titles which will make the DC stand out especially in a Republic!

Wow, @Mylovelygreendress

Were they declaring they wouldn’t give their kids titles before, during or after they fretted that the same titles were being withheld because of racism?

The opposite parenting is clearly more like the Wales are doing. I’ve know they’ve been criticised for not working so much (ignoring what’s going on just now). But it’s clear they spend a lot of the time with their children, doing school runs etc. we do see them rarely and clearly there’s an agreement in place for them to have mostly privacy.
I think hiding the children away is clearly going to put a price on their head for photos, I’m not sure how that keeps them safer. How much is a photo of them going to school worth? Or will they keep them locked in a mansion forever.

They never said they wouldn't give their children titles

They said it was racist not to give their children titles because they wouldn't be eligible for security

@shockthemonkey .

A claim since disproved !

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I cringe at the way Meghan keeps bringing her children into the conversation with anyone who will listen. ‘Lilibet like this and that’. No one knows or cares what her children like because they aren’t public property. Why keep talking about them when no one even knows what they look like? It would be better just to keep quiet about them full stop. It feels like she’s using them for attention for herself.

They then insist on Prince/ Princess titles which will make the DC stand out especially in a Republic!

And naming their daughter Lilibet, which draws attention to the royal connection, and throughout her life will either identify her immediately to people she meets, or have people asking where her name comes from. Quite unfair to do that to her, really.