Harry’s security case

[smilesy]

The judgment is in Harry loses High Court challenge over UK security protection www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68421992 See here

Imagine if they had given in and given him the extra sausage, he’d have been even more entitled than this

It's also worth pointing out that, according to documents released earlier in proceedings, Harry was never one of those people who would always be given full taxpayer funded security because of their role. It's likely that, even had he remained as a working royal, his security would have been downgraded at some point, as has happened to other family members.

No wonder he was putting the feelers out about families coming closer together.

So he is appealing ? I know he can do that but why ? Is this to get IPP status ?

Omg he's not appealing it is he? That means the taxpayer has to wait even longer to be repaid the legal costs incurred.

I really don't understand how Harry thinks he is going to win the appeal. The costs are going to be astronomical.

On what grounds is he appealing it? Is the judge also out to get him because he’s secretly an insect too?

Maybe Harry misread an original Czech version of Kafka and truly believes the employed workers are all insects 😬🙃😆

Because he hasn't had justice and he's special, donchanow. Someone needs to tell him he's had justice, just not the sort he thought he's entitled to. No doubt we'll be hearing that the judge is a rotten smelly meanie who hates him, or something.

At what point does he become a vexatious litigant?

Sounds an entirely reasonable decision and was probably inevitable; nobody's ever been able to explain what was wrong with the "case by case" reviews and clearly the judge took the same view

It's also clear that Harry's been kept fully informed of Ravec's processes, so any further claims that "nobody told me" will almost certainly be yet more lies

Had to smile at the "no substance" remark though - it applies to so much of what Harry claims, and perhaps someone ought to point out that "I waaannnt" isn't sufficient reason for him to get something

Harry has never been told that “no” can actually mean “no”

In his previous life I can easily believe that, smilesy, since "no" appears not to be a word the RF expect to hear

Unfortunately for him it's not how life outside the institution works, and in joining it that's the price he chose to pay - and if he failed to consider this it's nobody's fault but his own

Will he automatically be able to appeal the decision or does he have to seek permission to do so, does anyone know?

Harry is a VIP in the sense that I = Irritating.

To be fair to Harry, I don't think he is alone in not understanding life outside the Royal Family/upper class bubble. When they talk about wanting to live a normal life, they mean that they want to be aristocrats/celebs on a large unearned income with none of the negative press or associated responsibility, not that they want to live on Tesco value beans for weeks on end to try and scrape together a deposit for a starter home in a dodgy area.

The thing I don't understand is that he has seen other members of the Royal Family like Anne and Edward lose their fulltime security protection even whilst continuing to work for the family and being children of a monarch. Harry seems to think he is somehow insulated from this even though he is exactly in the same position. Harry was always very likely going to lose his protection in the long run like IcedPurple says and I'm not really sure how he doesn't understand that.

Any law experts here who can tell us if he can appeal this great decision?

I'm guessing he can as England's gov is extremely weak and this is how the rich can afford to make appeals and those that have the system played via Legal Aid when wanting to come to England/stay

I'm very confident he can appeal and I'm not an expert in law but an expert in being aware of reality.

He can't appeal because he doesn't like the result. There have to be grounds.
Honest to God what an entitled moron he is. Its not like he doesn't have protection when he's here. Frankly I'd be happy if he stayed in the States forever.

I was totally perplexed by his office making the lofty announcement that he would be visiting KC3 as soon as the cancer diagnosis was made public. In the middle of this issue about his protection he makes public his movements on an aeroplane, and it was implied IIRC that his arrival has caused a commotion as it could not be safely planned for. It just makes no bloomin' sense.

The thing I don't understand is that he has seen other members of the Royal Family like Anne and Edward lose their fulltime security protection even whilst continuing to work for the family and being children of a monarch.

Anne, Edward and Sophie have state-funded protection only when they are carrying out official duties. The Charles, Camilla and the Waleses are the only RF members who have full-time state-funded protection.

He must have been such hard work, bet there were many sighs of relief when he flounced off.

Main character syndrome dialled up to the max.

Any law experts here who can tell us if he can appeal this great decision?

His grounds will probably be 'it's not faaaiiiir!'

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Thank you for the insight.

As I said, I blame our gov for being feeble as another appeal will come, IMO

The appeal might be for press coverage, it gives the opinion of we may have lost the fight but not the war, good on a PR level. He may then quietly retreat if the lawyers believe it’s a lost cause.

I doubt that

MY dad told me its not all about money, after money its is one's status/prestige.

Having police armed officers is reserved for a couple of hundred of people in England I think

If Harry was at risk and his bodyguards did need to be armed, then the decision would be reviewed rightly so

To be fair to Harry, I don't think he is alone in not understanding life outside the Royal Family/upper class bubble

You're almost certainly right, @KatherineParr, and FWIW I don't imagine a lot of the others would cope very well outside it either

However having chosen to make such a huge life change it might have been wise for Harry to look into what it would involve a little more carefully instead of constantly blaming everyone else - except it's becoming clear he hasn't the wit