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The royal family

Prince William's Absence (Part Two)

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MaggieFS · 28/02/2024 09:42

Following on from this glorious thread

William just pulled out of event due to personal reasons http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/theroyall_family/5017144-william-just-pulled-out-of-event-due-to-personal-reasons

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Primrosecottagelover · 29/02/2024 14:38

This will sound provocative and grate against many but I think we are naive when it comes to Kate and Meghan.

We go on about their privileges and how grateful they should be to marry Princes…. Both of them have “pretty power”. If Kate didn’t marry William, there would have been many dukes/lords or sons of billionaires hovering around. It’s not PC to say but it’s honest, anyone with legs foreber and a size 8 body and a pretty face is going to marry well - basically a passport to wealth if you want it to be.

Just like Pippa, Kate would be living a lovely life if she wanted. I think between her parents being shamed over their business, basically being accused of racist remarks, it’s probably all a bit too much. Now the fact they’ve got to trade their privacy and work to prop up Pervy & distant relatives… who could be bothered.

Kate belongs on a yacht in Greece with Pippa and the Middletons and married to a billionaire. This whole royal thing is tired & old.

Roussette · 29/02/2024 14:39

EchoChamber · 29/02/2024 14:30

I had a look at the court circular and was astonished at how much they do. S and E also have their son at home. Unless he’s at boarding school.

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I think the son is at boarding school but yes they do work hard. They often go on foreign tours and it barely gets mentioned in the media because our rotten press are too busy banging on about Harry and Meghan
I do think it is very unfair on them

Primrosecottagelover · 29/02/2024 14:41

I dare someone to call their press office and pretend to be in the know as a royal correspondent. I bet there’s a whole bunch of Journalists in the know !

Roussette · 29/02/2024 14:41

@Primrosecottagelover

Totally agree with your post

Uricon2 · 29/02/2024 14:42

upinaballoon · 29/02/2024 13:28

Thanks for that. I'm looking here and not at the telly.

I can't remember if William's great grandma is buried in Jerusalem or if she had a tree in the Avenue of the Righteous, so I'm going to google.

I thought that the statement which he put out a couple of weeks ago was worded properly. It was along the lines of 'concern about the number of deaths', neutral.

Both, she was originally buried at Windsor but is now as she wished interred in Jerusalem, on the Mount of Olives. She is also commemorated as Righteous Among the Nations by Yad Vashem.

Incredible, brave woman.

ExactlySo · 29/02/2024 14:44

Perhaps all the posts about KC being so ill and dying are premature?

We've been told his cancer was found at an early stage. The once a week treatment for 6 weeks ties in with treatment of a much older person I know of, and IF it's the same cancer, (without speculating here and saying what) it's highly treatable and indeed curable.

KC absence is just as likely to be from his prostate procedure as the side effects of that can be hard to manage short term when in a public-facing role.

Janiie · 29/02/2024 14:46

'The thing is...and I'm not sure the Royals get this, if they can disappear for weeks and months, one wonders if they're needed at all. Public perception is very important'

But as been said on many a previous thread just because they 'disappear' doesn't mean they are on the settee in their pjs. I don't think we saw The Queen prancing about every week did we? They will do stuff that isn't always featured on Sky News y'know.

Uricon2 · 29/02/2024 14:46

Roussette · 29/02/2024 14:39

I think the son is at boarding school but yes they do work hard. They often go on foreign tours and it barely gets mentioned in the media because our rotten press are too busy banging on about Harry and Meghan
I do think it is very unfair on them

Very much agree, the work they do doesn't get the amount of coverage it should.

fuchsteufelswild · 29/02/2024 15:02

Livingtothefull · 29/02/2024 13:20

I don't really know what to say to this. Some MPs have been threatened to the extent that it risks undermining our democratic process, maybe you think that is funny but I don't. If I were a female MP I might feel like a 'scared poor lamb' if I had received rape and murder threats for trying to represent my constituents. William is much better protected than they are so spare me the 'firing line' talk.

Royals also get death threats. You can admire both royals and politicians for drawing attention to a good cause...

Delatron · 29/02/2024 15:21

thefallen · 29/02/2024 13:43

Maybe controversial but I don't think Kate is anywhere near as ill as people fear. She and Billy Idle have never exactly chomped at the bit to work, have they? I think she had a minor procedure and has used it as an excuse to have a few months off from her arduous schedule of a couple of half-days a week showing up and smiling.

I don’t know - mean there’s not working - which is fair enough after surgery. But other things she enjoys? Watching her kids play sport at school matches, seeing friends etc. I’m not sure the level of privacy in the grounds where she lives - I guess loads. But I’d be going a bit stir crazy unless I was genuinely too ill to get out of bed.

MaggieFS · 29/02/2024 15:26

Sophie has been doing loads of stuff but a lot of it IS the ribbon cutting stuff which doesn't get beyond local media. William (is he work shy or does he just focus on big projects while DC are young) tends to get the more mainstream press.

It would be really unfair on those good causes expecting Sophie if she binned them off to join William. And also not a good look. And just to appease those who can't accept Kate just needs time to recover and will be back soon.

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fuchsteufelswild · 29/02/2024 15:36

ToffeeTalk · 29/02/2024 14:04

Serenster if you read back you'll see that I was picking up a suggestion made by a previous poster. I agree that these injunctions are of questionable use. I nevertheless think that Harry is witholding certain 'inside info' and that William has a reason to be nervous. So he might well seek advice on how to limit what Harry can say, and want that advice in a hurry or panic.

Insider info about what, and would Harry who told the world about his kill count be able to keep his mouth shut if he had something on him?
Harry has written about his brother assaulting him, his privates, his envy, the danger to the Wales kids years ago.

fuchsteufelswild · 29/02/2024 15:57

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 29/02/2024 08:51

“Why couldn’t any of us step in tomorrow”.

That is the crux of it. Anyone could be trained up to do it. There isn’t much to do. They are told what to do, say, wear and where to go. Anyone could do it. This nonsense of how it takes years to ‘train’ is from their own garbled PR to make it seem ‘difficult’. Presidents manage to preside over countries without this onerous twenty years plus training.
People can say they wouldn’t like to do it. That is fine but millions would swap in return for the rewards.

FWIW, Meghan wanted to hit the ground running and ended up contemplating ending her life months into her pregnancy, so it's not entirely pleasant.

Livingtothefull · 29/02/2024 15:58

fuchsteufelswild · 29/02/2024 15:02

Royals also get death threats. You can admire both royals and politicians for drawing attention to a good cause...

I don't think that the risk to the Royals is in the same league as that facing MPs. The RF are very well protected, on the other hand several MPs actually have been killed recently.

MPs stake their careers and possibly even their safety by promoting causes, and are answerable to their constituents. The Royal Family produce soundbites to make themselves look good. Sorry but I get annoyed at any suggestion that they are even in the same league.

Roussette · 29/02/2024 16:02

So agree with the Royals being extremely well protected and Republic believes the bill for that to be astronomical but of course we aren't allowed to know how much it costs

When Andrew was dodging the FBI when they were trying to serve papers on him, he had three PPOs with him the whole time

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 29/02/2024 16:05

fuchsteufelswild

Maybe start yet another thread about Meghan and Harry.

Saschka · 29/02/2024 16:05

Livingtothefull · 29/02/2024 15:58

I don't think that the risk to the Royals is in the same league as that facing MPs. The RF are very well protected, on the other hand several MPs actually have been killed recently.

MPs stake their careers and possibly even their safety by promoting causes, and are answerable to their constituents. The Royal Family produce soundbites to make themselves look good. Sorry but I get annoyed at any suggestion that they are even in the same league.

From a PR perspective, bumping off the fucking King is going to get you and your cause a bit more notoriety than stabbing some random backbencher though.

I agree the Royals don’t stick their neck out enough to make themselves targets, but merely being a figurehead is enough to put a target on them. Look at Princess Anne’s kidnap attempt - it wasn’t because she’d done anything controversial herself.

Iwasafool · 29/02/2024 16:06

I remember the attempted kidnap of Anne and didn't the late Queen have an intruder in her bedroom one morning? Those are two I just remember, there may be more, there has certainly been at least one person arrested in the palace grounds. They don't seem that well protected to me.

ItsAllAboutTheDosh · 29/02/2024 16:06

@fuchsteufelswild William and Catherine presumably do not get credible death threats though. Otherwise William would not have gone jogging in NY central park pretty much alone and Catherine would not have gone alone to the Sarah Everard vigil.
I am sure Prince Andrew is at risk though.

yesmen · 29/02/2024 16:08

ItsAllAboutTheDosh · 29/02/2024 16:06

@fuchsteufelswild William and Catherine presumably do not get credible death threats though. Otherwise William would not have gone jogging in NY central park pretty much alone and Catherine would not have gone alone to the Sarah Everard vigil.
I am sure Prince Andrew is at risk though.

You know that William did not go jogging in Central Park - alone or not.

You also know that Princess of wales was not alone at Sarah Everard's vigil - her protection officers are clearly visible around her in the video. there was also professional camera crew there.

Livingtothefull · 29/02/2024 16:09

Iwasafool · 29/02/2024 16:06

I remember the attempted kidnap of Anne and didn't the late Queen have an intruder in her bedroom one morning? Those are two I just remember, there may be more, there has certainly been at least one person arrested in the palace grounds. They don't seem that well protected to me.

Those happened in the 1970s and 1980s though, I would guess that security has been stepped up since then. I haven't heard of any recent incidents as serious, on the other hand many MPs have been murdered very recently.

ItsAllAboutTheDosh · 29/02/2024 16:09

@Iwasafool The intruder in the Queen's bedroom was attempting to appeal for her help. It is not good he gained entry, but he did not want to harm her.
I can not imagine anyone wanted to personally harm the Queen.

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 29/02/2024 16:10

thefallen · 29/02/2024 13:43

Maybe controversial but I don't think Kate is anywhere near as ill as people fear. She and Billy Idle have never exactly chomped at the bit to work, have they? I think she had a minor procedure and has used it as an excuse to have a few months off from her arduous schedule of a couple of half-days a week showing up and smiling.

I snorted out loud when I read Billy Idle.

What an apt name for him.

I think you're right btw. Any old excuse to do as little as possible.

ColleenDonaghy · 29/02/2024 16:13

ItsAllAboutTheDosh · 29/02/2024 16:09

@Iwasafool The intruder in the Queen's bedroom was attempting to appeal for her help. It is not good he gained entry, but he did not want to harm her.
I can not imagine anyone wanted to personally harm the Queen.

That's so naive. Of course there were people who would have wanted to hurt her. Just because she was admired doesn't mean that was universal, and she was also a symbol of the country.

ItsAllAboutTheDosh · 29/02/2024 16:14

@yesmen perhaps. But it is what the palace reported.

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