Prince William's Absence (Part Two)

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Following on from this glorious thread

William just pulled out of event due to personal reasons http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/theroyall_family/5017144-william-just-pulled-out-of-event-due-to-personal-reasons

[Now awaits over analysis of the pictures to hear that he looks tired/ill/depressed/rested]

It isn't. It would be interfering in a court case he is not involved in. It makes no sense at all for him to dash away because the judgement had already happened, the parties were probably already aware of it before it was made public too.

The parties (i.e Harry and the Home Office) found out about the decision on 1 February). I imagine the period between then and the 28th (which is longer than usual when a judgment is issued in draft) was taken up with agreeing what would be redacted before it was released.

In theory the parties are extremely limited with what they can about the decision before it’s officially handed down. Harry’s lawyers, Schillings, got roundly criticised by the judge in another of Harry’s cases for sharing it with their in-house PR adviser before it was publically handed down, for example. But I don’t find it hard to believe that Harry did mention it to his father when he had his brief meeting with him earlier this month. Or that the Home Office Minister didn’t tell the PM, who then told Charles…

There is no super injunction. Ironically, because if there was, everyone outside of the UK would be reporting on it instantly. Particularly if it was anyone in the Royal Family (That’s kind of why people don’t bother with them any more…)

Thank you. We had the previous queen at out place and the top people knew the approx date and near the time the exact date.

I'd assume the reason (if not the trots), must be something of great significance, as surely it'd be weighed up against the optics of the Kent's still going (despite their son-in-law dying days earlier) and the risk (fully realised) of Andrew leaping into his 'next in line' role.

I just searched the royal engament diary to Ailliam and zero engagements shown for the next month

Several of the royals stopped publishing events on the court circular in advance during Covid and haven’t gone back to doing so, William included.

even pre covid it wasn’t always completely accurate for any of them, presumably for security reasons.

They're probably all asked not to gossip about high profile children.

@Serenster it is impossible to know if super injunctions exist. The foreign press report lots of strange stories about the royals that may be made up, or may be true and not reported here due to super injunctions.

and then William had to dash away weeks later for what? to interrupt proceedings? offer key information not presented during trial? security briefing? it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Same as on Tuesday and he's out and about at an engagement today. No idea what the "rules" are on what goes in that diary or not. Seems a bit daft having a half complete thing running, but it doesn't mean he won't be doing any.

I think you're right. While none of them want the throne (queen prayed for a younger brother after her uncle abdicated), they must all see that normal life is impossible for them, whether in or out of the fold. Best just to get on with it, keep their heads down and do what little they can to reform some of the more outdated practices.

Also - and sorry if this has already been covered - why are the press not making more of a fuss about it?

A member of the royal family demoted Harry so he didn't get armed royal protection a couple of years ago. It could well have been queen Elizabeth. He's demanding to know who.

Personally I wouldn't throw my granny under that bus.

Because they too either haven't a bloody clue.

A few comments on this:

There is no evidence that the RF bring in more money than they cost and plenty that indicates the reverse. Where do you get your statistics from?

William's income and lifestyle is largely courtesy of the taxpayer. Do you think that historically, the Duchy of Cornwall was acquired through a benign process? Do you think it is unconnected with Cornwall being one of the poorer regions of the UK?

I am a republican yes but certainly not envious of them. I can't think of much worse, the lavish lifestyle can't compensate for the perniciousness of being stuck within the monarchy.

You want to tell me that monarchists are child lovers because they support William & Kate being parents? I feel so sorry for their little boy who is being forced into his destiny as king. In any other context it would be considered as abusive to expect a child to take on a future role regardless of what he himself might want - but monarchists are fine with that. So spare me the lectures about good parenting.

'As this is a parenting site, supposedly to support parents, it's shocking how many posters are insisting that parents of 3 children see less of them, and spend more time turning up in suits or a posh dress to cut ribbons.'

So you are really admitting that the work that the Royals do is trivial. It is funny that most people on here manage to be good parents whilst holding down responsible jobs (with far fewer resources than the RF), and do not think that good parenting entails shirking the job roles we are being paid for.

Today William is at a synagogue. Putting himself right in the firing line. While Harriet Harmon proposes working from home cos politicians are scared poor lambs 🙄

Some MPs have had their security upgraded with 24 hour bodyguards because of credible threats. An MP was murdered last year. To dismiss this as scared poor lambs is beyond disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Cornwall there's no jobs, much like most of Wales. So your children move away. No political party has exercised themselves to create jobs in Cornwall, roads, trains, are not suitable.

Just been mentioned on BBC lunchtime news following William's synagogue visit. Said he's been asked about Kate, given flowers for her and KP has made a statement saying they are aware of online rumours, there's no change to previous statement in that she will not been seen until after Easter and that she continues to be recovering well.

I don't really know what to say to this. Some MPs have been threatened to the extent that it risks undermining our democratic process, maybe you think that is funny but I don't. If I were a female MP I might feel like a 'scared poor lamb' if I had received rape and murder threats for trying to represent my constituents. William is much better protected than they are so spare me the 'firing line' talk.

Because there isn't actually anything to make a fuss about?

Kate's absence has been explained. She had surgery, and is recovering away from the public gaze, as is her right. It's not a big leap to think she may have been ill for a while before that, whatever the cause.

William missed one personal (not work) engagement for a personal reason. Yes I'm a nosy fecker so I'd love to know why, but there have been countless sensible suggestions on this thread. I do think they would have been wiser to fake covid or a stomach bug but really it's to their credit that they didn't. Today he's back at work.

Much as it's entertaining for us to speculate, there isn't actually anything worth covering here for the actual media.

And Harriet Harman suggested during a radio phone in that hybrid working should be introduced. So if an MP is under threat they can hold constituency meetings online rather than in a constituency office open to members of the public.
That seems sensible given it is the most vulnerable place for MPs and has led to physical attacks and murders of MPs.

A member of the royal family demoted Harry so he didn't get armed royal protection a couple of years ago. It could well have been queen Elizabeth. He's demanding to know who.

Nobody demoted Harry. He chose not to be a working royal. That changed his circumstances. The RF does not have any say in the decisions of the government about personal protection. Nor should they. We have little enough resources for policing in this country. I want the decision to allocate them to be made impartially.
When discussing this case, I keep thinking about all the women who are at threat from abusive exs or stalkers and who get f&;k all protection from the police. That must be terrifying. I also think about the MPs who have resisted tough security measures when meeting constituents because they don't want barriers to doing their jobs. They want to serve the public despite two MPs being murdered in ten years. Then there is Harry.

Three MP's have been murdered in the past few years. There have been credible death threats to MP's, who we rely on to actually run the country properly. If enough people, and especially women (who are the ones being threatened) are turned off from standing as representatives in Parliament, we will have even more of a shitshow than we have now and an unrepresentative democracy. Without William visiting a synagogue, we would just have another day that William hasn't been seen. William has security for visiting the synagogue. Tons of it. MP's are responsible for running the country and maintaining democracy. William's responsibility is keeping his family on the Throne.