Prince William's Absence (Part Two)

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Following on from this glorious thread

William just pulled out of event due to personal reasons http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/theroyall_family/5017144-william-just-pulled-out-of-event-due-to-personal-reasons

Jo Cox was murdered in June 2016 nearly eight years ago by a far right extremist, nothing to do with religion. Get your facts straight

"Far-right terrorist Thomas Mair jailed for life for Jo Cox murder | Jo Cox | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/nov/23/thomas-mair-found-guilty-of-jo-cox-murder

Thanks for that. I'm looking here and not at the telly.

I can't remember if William's great grandma is buried in Jerusalem or if she had a tree in the Avenue of the Righteous, so I'm going to google.

I thought that the statement which he put out a couple of weeks ago was worded properly. It was along the lines of 'concern about the number of deaths', neutral.

@justasking111 Nobody except you mentioned religion.
Jo Cox is not the only MP who has been murdered. Arness was the most recent one.
On 15 October 2021, David Amess, a British Conservative Party politician and Member of Parliament for Southend West, was fatally stabbed at a constituency surgery at Belfairs Methodist Church Hall in Leigh-on-Sea, Essex.

@justasking111 you were right it was not last year, it was in 2011 Arness was murdered.
Mike Freer this year had an arson attack on his constituency office alongside death threats.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68167540

No, it’s quite easy actually. Ask Jeremy Clarkson. Or Ryan Giggs. The fatal problem is that to make sure that everyone you want gagged by the court order is bound by it, you have to serve a copy on it. And journalists hate them.

So, if you are a UK based office of a global media company, and get served with the order, you will know that you can’t publish the story, or even the fact that there’s an injunction. But your French/US/Australian arm can. What is to stop you tipping them off? And what is to stop you setting up an anonymous Twitter account to tweet about it? Or tipping off a sympathetic MP who will then mention it in parliament? This is how previous ones have been revealed.

And none of the superinjunctions revealed previously have had anywhere close to the global newsworthiness that a Royal family one would.

Superinjunctions are either now not legal or are much rarer following a legal review...can't remember which but there was a good discussion of them on the most recent Private Eye podcast!

(This is not the same as matters of national security being kept secret.)

Maybe controversial but I don't think Kate is anywhere near as ill as people fear. She and Billy Idle have never exactly chomped at the bit to work, have they? I think she had a minor procedure and has used it as an excuse to have a few months off from her arduous schedule of a couple of half-days a week showing up and smiling.

The reason speculative or salacious stories about the Royal family are published overseas but not here is the UK’s libel laws, generally. Papers are worried about being sued if they print something they can’t prove is true.

If the Palace was constantly at the courts seeking injunctions, we would know. The press would hate it and be determined to make sure it came out.

Jeremy Clarkson lifted his apparently they're too exp to keep going 😂

Interestingly, this exact viewpoint was written in an article from a German newspaper (reputable, not a tabloid). Went looking out of curiosity to see if foreign press was writing something different. Basically nothing new and simply publishing the same updates as the British press. However the German press had a different tone of voice and stated exactly what you did in relation to wild rumours. They went out of their way to emphasise that the Palace is usually quick to quash rumours or untruths and how it was very, very unusual that they are not addressing any of the current questions regarding Kate. It sounds like they know more about the situation but cannot publish anything that hasn't appeared in British media due to their reputable name. Unlike the Spanish tabloids, German publications tend to only publish or paraphrase exactly what has appeared in British media despite not being bound by law.

Guto Bebb used parliamentary privilege it didn't end well.

Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh would be a brilliant support I feel.

The palace has basically now said - yes we know about the speculation but what we told you in January still stands. So they are not leaning into the crazy. Good for them.

"When William becomes King he’s going to have to be his own counsel . It’s a lonely role to perform in isolation."

What will he need "counsel" on?

I agree

The entire ‘royal’ edifice is enveloped in a fog of secrecy .

Their wills are secret, Andrew’s ‘ business’ record is secret, for years they they hushed up the fact that Edward and the former queen mother were sympathetic to the Nazis etc etc

They have no need of super injunctions although I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they used them - they simply invoke ‘national security’

Personally I have no interest in their affairs / scandals ( few people are stupid enough to believe the PR fairytale nonsense the media spins) but I do strongly object to the secrecy regarding their political interference and their financial dealings
The Windsors live off the public.
We have a right to transparency just as we do with any other public body.
We are not deemed worthy of such transparency however when it comes to the Windsors. They do as they please and to hell with the rest of us

So you'd love your life and actions raked over by strangers ?

But surely ALL families struggle?

Some more, some less, but all families/people struggle.

Life itself is filled with daily struggle.

Adults keep going, it is the price of entry to adulthood.

Unless there is some heightened, extreme issue the the PoW should Keep Calm And Carry On.

By any measure he is an adult, and one of the most facilitated men on the planet. He has an army of people to dress him, cook for him, clean for him, drive for him, fly for him, research for him, write for him, think for him, coach him, whisper in his ear, even die for him. For most things he just needs to show up, bless people with a smile and a wave, talk about the weather.

This is a very poor show from him. He does not come across as a team player in any way, shape, or size.

The king is also at fault - a "slimed down monarchy" in which he keeps all the money for himself has an enormous cost as we now see. For a man who had decades to map out his management of the role he is messing up pretty badly.

Nothing to see here, stop frothing KP should have said but they're much too polite 😂😂

Serenster if you read back you'll see that I was picking up a suggestion made by a previous poster. I agree that these injunctions are of questionable use. I nevertheless think that Harry is witholding certain 'inside info' and that William has a reason to be nervous. So he might well seek advice on how to limit what Harry can say, and want that advice in a hurry or panic.

I’ve always thought this, she did accompany him to an event a few months ago but it’s the only time I’ve noticed it, it would be nice if she had attended the BAFTA’s with him, though I think she may have been on holiday. I like Sophie, it would have been a good PR move for her to step in more while Kate is recuperating and made the RF look more solid and united, working together in a time of crisis.

This country is filled with hands on parents who manage to work as well.

All without the back up this crew have.

And by the way, they are not being asked to go down the mines!

That's far too a sensible suggestion for the Palace! I honestly think they haven't got a clue PR wise at times

I imagine they are reactive and fire fighting as opposed to forward thinking

Totally agree.

William has a team of about 90 working for him, yet can't seem to grab his role by the balls and do much

I agree.

William is at an engagement today and apparently mentioned Catherine.

I doubt it will stop the online rubbish though.