45 minutes

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So Harry flew for 11 hours and then spoke to his father for 45 minutes ? Charles then bobbed to Sandringham by helicopter and Harry checked into a hotel. I mean wouldn't you think Harry would have gone to Sandringham with Charles maybe ?

@portocristo @doubleshotcappuccino william most certainly does not need to build any bridges!!! this whole situation was totally the fault of mad meg and horrid harry!! William will always be on the side of his wife, Kate. In what way did they expect the royal family to support them? did meghan not realise that when anyone marries into any family, (not just the royal family) then the rest of the family have to get to know her properly before any real friendships can begin. kate was also a busy mother so she did not have time to socialise much! I think meghan expected everyone to jump through hoops for her and she was upset that this didnt happen. The queen offered her assistance and arranged for people to advise her of the protocols but meghan always stated that harry would help her! harry was not aware of lots of protocols regarding the female members of the family! she only stayed in the family for 18 months so there is no chance of her ever knowing everything about the family. she did not have a clue. even stated they got married before the wedding without knowing the rules surrounding any marriage in UK! the royal family should not be allowing either of them back. they will be running around sticking labels on all the valuables "this item is needed by harry and meghan". wait till charles passes away and see how they behave then, given the rules regarding inheritance in the royal family!!!

Is William supposed to be absolutely fine with Harry’s insults, including the ones about his wife?

I don’t think anyone has to be fine with anything. Harry feels there were issues and talked about them publicly which he is allowed to do. I wouldn’t imagine William was happy with him speaking about them and he doesn’t have to be. Sometimes family members fall out, they make decisions that others wouldn’t, we all do what we think is right and are free you do so, others don’t have to agree.

And, furthermore, I bet the very same posters criticising William are ones who bellow”Go no contact!” about difficult family members. Is William supposed to be absolutely fine with Harry’s insults, including the ones about his wife?

And the very same posters who have praised Meghan and Harry for doing he right thing and “escaping” the toxic royal family and cutting off Thomas Markle.

(having conveniently forgotten,of course, that that the former of those was only the line Meghan and Harry pivoted to after their Sussex Royal “collaborating with the Queen” while earning a private income was shut down).

No not after Spare.

Agreed. Give it a week and Harry will have leaked the conversation to the press.

They can’t trust him. And after all the vile things he’s said about Camilla and Kate and his own brother, I don’t blame them either.

Amazing how quickly Harry was able to get his statement out tbh…almost like he had a PA refreshing twitter so they could get his statement out ASAP

I couldn't help but think he should have asked his dad when suited for him to travel, and been slightly less hasty.

How do you know he didn't do this?

Yes.

I suspect he is looking for a way to repair the relationship too. That's not a bad thing either.

Cmon now. Do you think we are all unaware of what happened? He didn’t just talk about family issues publicly. He did it for millions and millions, he made horrible accusations, from his brother not marrying for love to his stepmother selling him out.

He divulged petty shit for cash,spread gossip he then refused to substantiate and repeatedly told us all about what victims they were, and how great they were. He got much of the detail wrong. Which made it look like lies. Blamed his memory. Then did ridiculous things like make up a high speed pap chase.

all that after his initial plan of being half in and half out, selling the Sussex royal brand and collaborating with the queen.

he didn’t just go and talk about his family issues. Trying to position it like that isn’t going to fool anyone; we saw the interviews. We read the book. We saw the statements.

Notoriously private family!! Feck you are naive @Ratsoffasinkingsauage Penny Junior has made a career being Charles' mouthpiece. They all leak like a sieve when it suits them, even against family.

Then he should have done it on his dad’s time. When it suited him, not when it suited Harry.

Charles is very clear this is very early stage, he could easily have said he face timed and planned to come over in the summer when Charles was less tired

How do you know Charles is tired? How do you know Charles didn't want him to come over as opposed to face timing.

I am just imagining Harry not bothering to come over until the summer. Certain MNers and the media would have an absolute field day slagging him off.

He doesn't care
He only thinks about what he wants
He's cut his family off, they should have nothing to do with him
His father has cancer and he can't even be bothered to see him
And so on

So do we think someone leaked that Harry was going over so that he could be spotted at LAX & Heathrow?

There are probably paps at Royal residences so he might not have been able to arrive completely unnoticed.

Would anyone have been looking everyday to see if he had been or not?

Would the headlines have been "Still no sign of Harry"?

Something to do with the 45 min meeting max and the fact the palace said he was tired, and oh, yeah, he’s 75 had an operation last week and went through his first cancer treatment on Monday, likely radio therapy.

Harry will have leaked it. Same as the hotel stay. The palace wouldn’t be leaking this idiocy. Harry wanted to be seen to act.

People seriously underestimate how damaging words can be. Harry has effectively destroyed any semblance of trust that might have existed prior to all his public outpourings. KC might well have unconditional love for his son, but Harry's burned the rest of his family to the ground.

There's no coming back from his choices.

Well I hope he didn’t because he didn’t get himself a very good deal if his father could only spare him half an hour! I’m sure most parents would have said something along the linesof “I would love to see you, but let’s wait a little while so that you can come for a proper visit when we know how things stand”. It does seem a bit silly to rock up just after the King has had his first treatment and also not long after he has had an in patient procedure. Also, there doesn’t seem to have been any provision made for Harry to stay on a royal palace, when I thought it was suggested previously that this would be fine if he gave notice He didn’t rush to Balmoral to see the late Queen when she was clearly very elderly and frail. His father is in no way in the same situation. Harry could have waited a week or so 🤷‍♀️

So you know without doubt he barged in and Charles didn't want to see him? Can you tell me your sources?

This is between and father and son. You know nothing.

He didn’t rush to Balmoral to see the late Queen when she was clearly very elderly and frail.

Yes - he was in fact notable by his absence from Balmoral before the Queen’s final day, despite planning a trip to the UK and Europe to undertake engagements for Invictus and Well Child.

@Mrsjayy I was replying to the poster saying that all the Megan haters were out again (they weren't) and implying this was because they were racist.

He didn’t come over for the operation. Just this dramatic visit.

i hope it was at Charles request.

How in god's name do posters know he had radiotherapy on Monday? This thread is bonkers.

I honestly think posters don't actually care about Charles. This shock cancer diagnosis is just providing a vehicle to nitpick anything Harry does.

I'm out, enjoy the thread.

If a child of mine had slagged off my family to the extent that Harry has I'd not have given them ten minutes of my time. If Charles wants the nature of his cancer to remain secret I imagine he would be very wary of giving Harry any details.

How in god's name do posters know he had radiotherapy on Monday?

They don’t (obviously) but what they do know:

5 February (i.e. Monday)
Buckingham Palace announces that King Charles has been diagnosed with a form of cancer discovered during his recent treatment. The type of cancer has not been revealed, but according to a palace statement the King has started "regular treatments".

I'm not an oncologist, but I, and many others know from personal experience of relatives with cancer that the three main treatments for cancer are surgery, radiation and chemotherapy. Charles obviously hasn’t had surgery. So it is very likely indeed that he’s had radiation or chemotherapy if treatment has already started.

Charles was in Sandringham on Sunday (photographed going to church there), returned to London at some stage after that, and went back to Sandringham Tuesday afternoon.

So, again, it’s most likely that he came back to London to start his treatment. Given that the Palace announcement on Monday evening said it had already happened, it was most likely on Monday.It might have been Sunday of course, but Monday is obviously far more likely for scheduled treatment.

So there you go - no knowledge, but a high likelihood.

Maybe Charles is a bit knackered from being old and having cancer and all the silly royal stuff and 45 minutes with his estranged son was about all he could manage, and it’s the first step of many in repairing a relationship. It only looks dramatic because it involves a plane flight; if they were estranged but in London and it were a taxi ride it would seem less “whoa, all that for 45 minutes”. Seems sensible to me to see each other and recover, rather than put an elderly patient through a huge emotional summit for hours on end.