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The royal family

Endgame Part 7

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Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 26/01/2024 18:40

Continuing a civilised discussion, with a few laughs along the way, trying to stay within the topic, please. Thank you to all the lovely contributors who make this a pleasure and an education.

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Prydddan · 09/02/2024 15:57

Raincloudsonasunnyday · 09/02/2024 14:03

Totally agree. I'd go so far as to say that Diana, at 19, probably didn't have a plan to become the limelight when she married Charles. Meghan, in her 30s and a struggling and aging actress in North America moving into her second marriage, I think intended to bask in the limelight being reflected upon her by association with the RF. Hence why she's so routinely accused of using her charitable endeavours (such as they are) for her personal gain: they are useful for making the spotlight shine on her.

Speaking of which, is there anyone else thinking that, after last night's appearance in Las Vegas, Harry's 24 hours trip to London to see his Dad for 30 minutes was a pre-emptive PR strike? In that, there's no way he could weather the PR storm if Charles's diagnosis became known at the weekend -> silence from Harry -> he pops up at a glitzy American awards ceremony in Las Vegas on the Thursday. Harry needs to be seen to be still-Royal; it's all he's got and the only thing that keeps him getting the gigs he gets. He has to kiss the ring from time to time, in order to go play in Hollywood. This week's visit to pater was basically that. Keeping his agents happy.

Which means that his trip to London was for personal gain, appearance's sake (he certainly didn't have any meaningful time with his parent) so he could make last night's appearance look not-appalling. He basically used his dad.

He's totally, utterly lost to this California 'dream', made a pact with the devil. He's basically traded one machine for another. He, like I thought Meghan was from the get go (and initially had quite a bit of respect for her, for it) is hustling and stopping at nothing to progress.

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At what point, do we think, do PR stunts like the 45-minute dash tip over from clueless entitlement to.elder abuse?

ArcaneWireless · 09/02/2024 16:26

@Raincloudsonasunnyday

Your post at 1433?

Fair point.

Maireas · 09/02/2024 16:30

I agree, @Raincloudsonasunnyday . Being royal is his USP, but he's done everything to show how much he hates it.

Raincloudsonasunnyday · 09/02/2024 18:19

diddl · 09/02/2024 14:33

In that, there's no way he could weather the PR storm if Charles's diagnosis became known at the weekend -> silence from Harry -> he pops up at a glitzy American awards ceremony in Las Vegas on the Thursday.

Why would there be a PR storm just because he didn't rush over before a presumably already arranged event?

Because there's money to be made from such a PR storm.

The headlines would be (rightly or wrongly): King Told He Has Cancer and Harry Plays in Vegas!!

Given Harry needs to stay on the right side of the RF, that would have to be avoided at all costs. He's arguably already done enough damage to his relationship with the RF to tarnish his monetary value as a celebrity. Don't think he can risk much more.

DuchessOfPort · 09/02/2024 18:35

I don’t think he thought it would wildly impress the RF or more specifically his father but the optics were horrifying. And FWIW, they would have been - so on balance he’s probably getting about 10% less flack than if he hadn’t come.

but GOD! if he were just like every other royal. No statements, no explanation, no announcements and this the drummed up criticism can get no traction. And we’d all
have more peace. When will this man learn the upside to discretion?

diddl · 09/02/2024 19:48

The headlines would be (rightly or wrongly): King Told He Has Cancer and Harry Plays in Vegas!!

But part of me thinks-so what?

That's between him & his dad.

If he needs to stay on the right side of the RF, surely rushing over to avoid bad press for himself isn't the way to do it?

WinnieTheW0rm · 09/02/2024 20:16

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 09/02/2024 15:23

Before his first marriage, he had two main mistresses

Surely they were girlfriends, since he was a single man?

SWYM

But they weren't publicly acknowledged girlfriends either, so I'm really not sure what the optimal term would be

jeffgoldblum · 09/02/2024 20:39

@WinnieTheW0rm , women he bonked secretly?

jeffgoldblum · 09/02/2024 20:40

Recipients of the royal oats ?

wildernesssw · 09/02/2024 20:43

I am not sure that any girlfriends needed to be 'publicly acknowledged'?

The kings of France had official mistresses of course! (while also having any number of extras) but there has never been any obligation for the British RF to make public declarations short of engagements!

jeffgoldblum · 09/02/2024 20:49

Oh come on @wildernesssw , my last one surely!!!

wildernesssw · 09/02/2024 20:52
Oat Milk Cats GIF by Leon Karssen

Oats with a saucy undertone... just for you!

jeffgoldblum · 09/02/2024 20:53

Ohhh @wildernesssw I'm oataly on board with pussy milk !

PinkTonic · 09/02/2024 20:53

wildernesssw · 09/02/2024 20:43

I am not sure that any girlfriends needed to be 'publicly acknowledged'?

The kings of France had official mistresses of course! (while also having any number of extras) but there has never been any obligation for the British RF to make public declarations short of engagements!

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Back in those days before he married the press were always naming his girlfriends and speculation was rife. We heard about Jane Wellesley, Amanda Knatchbull, Davina Sheffield, Sarah Spencer. Then we’d hear they were marrying someone else or they fell by the wayside because they’d had a past. I can’t remember them all but I don’t remember Camilla being discussed as a possibility.

jeffgoldblum · 09/02/2024 20:54

jeffgoldblum · 09/02/2024 20:53

Ohhh @wildernesssw I'm oataly on board with pussy milk !

Sorry I've only just realised that that sounds awful !!! 😣 cat milk , cat milk !

PinkTonic · 09/02/2024 20:57

@MNHQ why did my post get hidden literally as I posted it? It wasn’t controversial in the least.

wildernesssw · 09/02/2024 20:57

I was shocked, SHOCKED!!!

jeffgoldblum · 09/02/2024 20:58

I wish they'd hidden mine @PinkTonic !

jeffgoldblum · 09/02/2024 20:58

wildernesssw · 09/02/2024 20:57

I was shocked, SHOCKED!!!

Me too! And I posted it!!! 😳😳🫣

wildernesssw · 09/02/2024 20:59

@PinkTonic I think there are certain words that automatically trigger the post to be hidden until the context of the post is looked at?

Maireas · 09/02/2024 21:00

jeffgoldblum · 09/02/2024 20:53

Ohhh @wildernesssw I'm oataly on board with pussy milk !

😮

PinkTonic · 09/02/2024 21:01

It was just about the previous royal girlfriends. One of the names must have an automatic flag on it. 🤔

SheriffofRottingham · 09/02/2024 21:01

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Withdrawn at poster's request

jeffgoldblum · 09/02/2024 21:01

No @Maireas , look away !!!! Look at later posts , noooooo!

RoyallyRhubarb · 09/02/2024 21:01

Can you freeze Oatly and then defrost it and use it normally? Asking for a Mum with a vegan DD who came to stay for Xmas, didn’t drink the milk so mum put it in the freezer and DD is due to make another appearance next weekend so may want said milk.

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