Omid Scobie Endgame PART 4

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Continuing an enjoyable and civilised discussion of Endgame, and all things relating to its contents.

Previous thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4954329-omid-scobie-endgame-part-3?page=1

@Getthethrowonthesofa I read she didn't interview the little people, just the big celebrities like Mariah (that interview was hilarious when Mariah called her a diva 🤣). And why would they be capable of creating content. H was in the army and was so creative he needed his art teacher to help him with his a level work. M had slightly better credentials, having created a popular blog. For some reason she didn't go back to something like that. Probably they thought putting their name to something would be all they needed to bring to the table. H has had people doing the hard work for him his whole life.

Not sure if Eugenie is still in the good books after the Piers Morgan hugging, I can’t see it being long before he has no connection other than the media gossip columns with the royal family.

Netflix might have been expecting behind the scenes glimpses at royal events, maybe even interviews with some family members. That would probably have been a ratings success, as their own 'documentary' was.

They could perhaps have done a series on Life in the British Country House, with second or third level stately homeowners wanting to promote their houses, and showing how their estates are run as businesses. With Harry and Meghan's different perspectives, done intelligently it could have been interesting. But no-one will want to talk to them now.

Netflix probably assumed H and M would be employing competent people and listening to them.

Not sure if Eugenie is still in the good books after the Piers Morgan hugging,

I wonder if Eugenie is still speaking to him, after the revelations about the school matron with the 'twisted spine' in Spare, given her own scoliosis.

Does Beatrice speak to them, or is it just Eugenie?

Totally agree with this. Harry in particular seem to genuinely believe all his own narrative about how he was so wronged. I think it's why he continues to try and push his story out again and again. He believes that people aren't just understanding. it and when they do, they will all support and sympathise with him.

Julie Montagu has cornered this market.

I suspect that’s been the case for a while. I think that the likelihood of anyone having any connection with them other than on a very superficial level, is remote.
Presumably Netflix still want their money’s worth so there’s a chance that a film crew will be following them around for some time to come.
I wouldn’t trust them an inch.

Maybe she just liked the look of it on paper. Some society name as godparent.

They got these deals before the Oprah interview, when they might have been able to claim they still had some sort of 'in' with the royals. Netflix might have been expecting behind the scenes glimpses at royal events, maybe even interviews with some family members. That would probably have been a ratings success, as their own 'documentary' was

I agree that Netflix initially thought they would be working with “half in and half out” Meghan and Harry which would presumably have opened up some interesting avenues. And Meghan and Harry had some other names onboard - David Furnish was to co-produce the animated series “Pearl”.

Omid Scobie also tweeted in September 2020 that Netflix had confirmed a “Nature Docu-Series” which I imagine was planned to link up with Harry’s National Parks role in Africa.

So there was other stuff in the offing initially. It just hasn’t panned out.

It's also the reason why she won't have a career in politics. I know it's only ever third party rumours that say that about her, so it's totally possible she has no ambitions in that arena. But if she had, then she won't make headway as she simply won't be able to cut the back-room deals (which depend on trust and confidentiality) that are needed to climb the greasy pole.

(Or at least not until a lot of time has passed with no further indiscretions either directly or indirectly)

Yes, maybe something like that.

Or some sort of 'British Prince in America' type reality show. Or even 'At Home with the California Royals'. I really do think that's what Netflix wanted, and it might have been a success, but the Sussexes take themselves way too seriously and don't listen to advice. I can't see them getting similar lucrative deals in the future, especially as many of the streaming companies have run into financial issues.

I agree they will be excluded as people won’t trust them, well in royal circles. They still even leak phone calls. Like harry calling Charles on his birthday and rhe kids saying hi or whatever.

what’s even the point of that. Why leak it. To show they are still connected I guess. But god it’s tedious. Same as the wedding invite thing. So utterly tedious and unnecessary.

and it doesn’t help that scobies book, the worlds media, and many many individuals, seems to think is just Megan and Harry launching another attack on the royals, simply covert this time.

It’s deranged if you think about it.

I wish the Africa series had come off. It is right in Harry’s wheelhouse and I think it would have been interesting.

Does anybody know what happened to Harry's job in Silicon valley? I have a vague recollection of him being appointed Executive Something-or-Other at some point, early on in their self-imposed exile...

Yes, I haven't seen anything recently about Eugenie and Jack seeing them, but then Eugenie just had her second DC, so no doubt she's had a busy year and one where long-haul flights to CA aren't exactly top of her list of priorities. I do wonder though whether that relationship has cooled.

Was that the Chimpo (chief impact officer) job at the online MH coaching company Better Up?

I'm not sure how much Harry is still doing with them. There have been rumours that the company is in difficulty. I read somewhere that Better Up has moved a lot of its operation to Texas which has lower costs/taxes.

There has also been staff complaints about their poor treatment by the company - 16% of staff were made redundant in the summer.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/prince-harry-criticised-betterup-co-30640103

At Home with the California Royals coulld have been a great ongoing show if they had a sense of humour about themselves. Shown themsleves doing normal stuff, being dumb, but with a warm hearted feel and the actual RF somewhere in the background e.g M packing her tartan as off the Balmoral. H trying to teach her a Scottish reel and her being crap at it etc.

But they are so thin skinned have such fragile egos they couldn't manage anything which would require lighthearted levity.

The Mariah interview painfully revealed that, when M couldn't tolerate any banter or gentle piss taking by Mariah Carey until she assured herself 'oh you're saying I'm fabulous, I get it now'. Unintentioneally hilarious 😂

They must be such a bore to be around.

Their attempts at lightheartedness or levity would involve them stating 'we are such lighthearted people who value sharing humour with those we love and lifting those who are oppressed. It's just who we are.'

“As co-founder of Archewell, he is focused on driving systemic change across all communities through non-profit work as well as creative activations. The mission across Archewell—which currently includes Archewell Foundation, Archewell Productions, and Archewell Audio—is united behind the deeply held belief that compassion is the defining cultural force of the 21st century.”

... another colleague told the Daily Mail how they didn't know what Harry even contributed to the business.

So, a lot of hot air and no substance whatsoever.

'Creative activations' - WTF?
'compassion is the defining cultural force of the 21C' - really?!!

Why does this not surprise me...

The irony scale is broken. What compassion have they shown for anyone, including the Queen?

The friends situation fascinates me.
Everyone says Harry has lost friends, how would we know that?
Hugh Grosvenor obviously still kept in contact.

Didn't he na dWilliam have alot of joint friends? That must be awkward for them all.

Also does M have old school and uni friends? Did they come to the wedding? There was so much talk about her family, her friends seemed to get overlooked.

Is she still friends with Jessica Mulroney?

If you've lost your family, friends become much more important.

And even in RL I'm often suspicious when people don't seem to have kept old friends...

'Creative activations' - WTF?
'compassion is the defining cultural force of the 21C' - really?!!

It's just bullshit and word salad, yet again. They are all daft phrases and zero action. They both make speeches like this, but WTF do they actually DO that is compassionate or making a difference? All I see them do is fly around in their mates' private planes, go to pop concerts, turn up to pointless awards ceremonies, be photographed at polo matches and having dinner out in their neighbourhood. How is any of that creative, environmental, philanthropic or anything else? They seem to be busy doing bugger all!

Some of Harry’s long time friends such as Tom Inskip weren’t invited to the evening event . Apparently he and others were miffed that Oprah etc were invited to the whole wedding and they weren’t.

Hugh didn’t obviously still keep in contact, why do you think that? And contact is not the same as friendship.

i don’t think Megan had many friends at rhe wedding, and she has ditched Jessica.

there doesn’t appear to be many old friends going over to see them, or any pictures emerging of friends out there.

megan appears to change friends based on who is most useful to her.