Omid Scobie Endgame PART 4

[Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar]

Continuing an enjoyable and civilised discussion of Endgame, and all things relating to its contents.

Previous thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4954329-omid-scobie-endgame-part-3?page=1

As an aside, the description of someone as “wildly humble” is not a phrase I can get my head around 🤔😆

They are 2 adults who left for ‘financial independence’ and yet seem furious they aren’t being funded by PC

And all with the background of the cost of living, going to court to demand the tax payer picks up your tab is never going to look good.

Also there is so much content around. I agree the only draw they really have is noseiness.

I think they'd be better off lifting themselves out of the whole Hollywood conversation.

Find a lovely large apartment in a nice European city, send the kids to a lovely school, and just settle down into a normal peaceful life. There's no need for all this high profile crap really.

Lead with love?! Who or what are they leading. Nothing and nobody, but that's the choice they made.

Going back to the book sales figures. I'm not an expert at all, don't the numbers seem rather low for the scale of the publicity it generated?

I think Scobie missed his window, most people are bored with the drama and after hearing directly from Harry why would they buy a book from another source that hasn't got anything new to say?

And on the subject of the Sussex fans, both families have fans that do them no favours with the nastiness of their social media posts. They are all behind the times, silence seems the plan from everyone concerned now.

It was not a job suited to Meghan . She doesn't have the duty, stoicism, thick skin or commitment to the institution to stick with all those dull visits.That should have been clear to everyone early on. In fact it probably was.

Hence the offers for her to continue working and the low expectations and relaxing of protocol and rules to accommodate her. Later spun into evidence of “racism” and attacks on her. It’s all completely horrible and there is no winning with such people. What more could the RF have done to help her adapt?

Let's be honest though - what expertise do they actually have in that field? None. Meghan was an actress. There are many more experienced and insightful people out there. Initially they had the advantage of their titles but that has dissipated with all the negativity

This is what stands out for me, especially when what many will remember from their forays into "production" is the "f*cking grifters" tag

Even allowing for Covid it's been a while now, and with the exception of Invictus little of solid and lasting value's been created - and the endless PR stunts, court cases and tall tales are neither

Meghan's often derided Suits role was a success which many would give their right arm for, but is it enough - even with the high profile they've largely trashed - to build a real career on, given that she's partnered with Harry who seems to have talent for little beyond lending a princely name?

Time will tell

I read the other day that Meghan used to teach calligraphy classes - doubt that would bring them enough in though.

What sort of content though? They strike me as extremely vacuous and quite lazy.

Agree - what content?

If someone has a film or tv show they desperately want produced, are they going to pitch it to them? I know I wouldn't.

Do you maybe think if they had the ability to do that, they’d have done it already ? It’s abundantly clear that they do not have the ability, the knowledge or the skills set, . That’s not a criticism, I couldn’t do it either, it is very hard to do , a huge amount of constant work, and requires an innate skill. In a very crowded market.

they had the platforms, Spotify and Netflix, they had the staff, the backing, and the time, and they were still simply unable to do it.

I agree. People are bored....I attempted to bring them up at the hair salon but my stylist, who usually chats about anything, pulled a face and said they're just a tawdry, boring soap opera.

Both sets of online fans have people who are absolutely horrible but Meghan gets the worst of the abuse. Some of it is unconscionable. Do they really think they're doing Kate and William any favours by accusing Meghan of unspeakable things and photoshopping her image into grotesque caricatures? I don't know how she copes with it.

So OS as now admitted the names were in the first draft sent to Holland? After swearing he never ever wrote them? Presumably the names were released in Holland just to get them out there in an attempt to smear Charles and Catherine, so basically a put up job.

The issue with end game is there is nothing new in it, you’d have to be some sort of super fan to spend money to read the same again, and this time it’s critiqued as being badly written. It’s just grubby.

im still nauseated by the fact sky news Australia said it calls Megan the new diana, that’s disgusting, and if you need to tell people that’s what you are, it’s clearly not true.

I agree, I don't think they do!

It's what I thought when they left, and the Squad were saying what a fantasic future they had etc etc

But I am pre-empting comments about how they couldn't because of COVID, because the RF were scheming with the media to bring them down etc etc

They are living in the country of their choice, working in the industry of their choice, with the individuals of their choice.

They have had their say about the RF.

So we'll see what is produced now they have Found Freedom and have everything in place to succeed!

As a lot of us suspected - because pulping the Dutch run would be cheap in financial terms but priceless in getting the message out.

They have two of the biggest names in entertainment as their benefactors, Oprah and Tyler Perry, I think it is very possible they will be pulling strings behind the scenes to help them with their future projects, potentially mentoring and funding. Tyler Perry has just signed a mega deal with Netflix, it will be interesting to see if that helps smooth the way for H&M's future with Netflix.

Their signing by WME was in all likelihood brokered with the help of the likes of Oprah, Serena or Tyler, that didn't happen off their own back.

Hmmmm I'm not so sure...

🤣

Well, I think we can all agree that they have everything in place for success - far more than most ever have. Now it remains to be seen if they have the talent, drive etc to succeed.

They have less in place than they had before - no Spotify platform, less goodwill, already been called grifters, figures of ridicule. It's harder now than it was I think.

They have two of the biggest names in entertainment as their benefactors, Oprah and Tyler Perry, I think it is very possible they will be pulling strings behind the scenes to help them with their future projects, potentially mentoring and funding

The thing is, people can pull all the strings they want but what counts is what can be delivered, and the Sussexes haven't really demonstrated that. And wouldn't it be more accurate to say they HAD Oprah as a benefactor? has she been cheering them on lately?

I thought Oprah had distanced herself from them after the blatant lies in the interview.

Oprah, Tyler etc are not real friends imo, and will only promote them if it is in their interest.

Have any of you read Endgame? Its not all about meghan and Harry. Its not derogatory about the Royals as individuals. It does criticise the monarchy as an organisation and the tabloids.

Reputationally, why would they bother?