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Omid Scobie Endgame PART 3

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Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstotheyard · 01/12/2023 10:32

La Pom Pom Girl is doing the Double Dutch. But who is turning the skipping ropes? Part three/trois/drie of the continuing discussion of Endgame by Omid Scobie. Previous thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4951834-omid-scobies-new-book-part-2

Omid Scobie's New Book - PART 2 | Mumsnet

I'm not sure what is the correct etiquette for carrying on a thread, but here we are. Thanks to {mention:BoxedandRibboned} for the original thread....

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4951834-omid-scobies-new-book-part-2

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AllisColm · 04/12/2023 19:43

Not sure if this link will work but in case it doesn't I have copied what now seems a very relevant statement. So much jealousy apparent even then.

In the introduction to a blog entry where she interviewed Princess Alia Al Senussi, a descendent of Libyan royalty who works in the art world, Meghan mentioned that as a child she loved tough princesses like She-Ra from the ’80s cartoon, She-Ra: Princess of Power. She also mentioned that the idea of a “princess” still exerts power on adults too. “Grown women seem to retain this childhood fantasy,” she wrote. “Just look at the pomp and circumstance surrounding the royal wedding and endless conversation about Princess Kate.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2023/02/meghan-markle-didnt-google-the-royals-before-she-married-harry

A Brief History of the Trope That Meghan Markle Didn’t Google the Royals Before She Married Harry

According to some commentators, it’s hard to believe that she didn’t google the family when she met Harry, but there are plenty of reasons to believe it’s true—even if she did mention “Princess Kate” once on her blog.

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2023/02/meghan-markle-didnt-google-the-royals-before-she-married-harry

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 04/12/2023 19:46

Has any publication actually written something in support of H&M since Endgame?

I've had a quick look but can't see.

parksandrecs · 04/12/2023 19:47

I have had a couple of family members since 2020 who died in their 90s.

Both (one in her own home, one in a care home) loved to welcome younger members of their family who visited, loved to hear what we had been up to, and shared family reminisces (especially welcome when they told embarassing stories about our parents as children 😂)

If they had then heard we were coming with a string of complaints about our parent/sibling, and expect them to DO SOMETHING, I suspect that they would have found a medical appointment to put us off!

AliceOlive · 04/12/2023 19:49

Was this linked here already? Quite a bit of detail I have not seen before about the early years. Now this is definitely coming from inside and maybe its about time.
https://archive.is/sc6RK

Bookworm1111 · 04/12/2023 19:53

MaturingCheeseball · 04/12/2023 16:36

I think Harry was hooked for Meghan by the Soho House set. The details of how they met are - as usual - a bit vague. Probably being in the rf was seen as a giant merching venture. It all started to go a bit wrong when she was told off for wearing “advertising” things and keeping freebies - maybe at first she didn’t realise this. But apparently the “men in grey” went berserk about the baby shower and the brands on show.

I agree! There is a widely shared photo of Scobie and MM on a yacht in Cannes from 2012, when he was dating her friend, Markus Anderson, who ran Soho House. You have to wonder whether Scobie had a hand in encouraging her pursuit of PH for his own personal endgame...

Omid Scobie Endgame PART 3
RecoIIectionsMayVary · 04/12/2023 20:01

What complex webs we weave

AutumnCrow · 04/12/2023 20:24

meercat23 · 04/12/2023 19:03

That makes it sound as if they thought the Queen would be a soft touch whereas from what I can see she was far from that particularly when it came to protecting the monarchy. Edited to add, H seems to place all of the blame on the aides but it is likely even probable that they were acting on HMQ's instructions.

Edited

Yes, I can quite believe that they probably were the Queen's instructions, and designed to protect herself from ever having to have a real life conversation with someone in the family discussing branding and money.

The whole of the monarchy's access to the loot depends on the monarch projecting the image of 'custodian', not 'user'.

There would be great danger for a monarch in being party to such an under-developed conversation about branding and money that could be reported back to, well, anyone.

She wasn't stupid.

BethDuttonsTwin · 04/12/2023 20:30

Bookworm1111 · 04/12/2023 19:53

I agree! There is a widely shared photo of Scobie and MM on a yacht in Cannes from 2012, when he was dating her friend, Markus Anderson, who ran Soho House. You have to wonder whether Scobie had a hand in encouraging her pursuit of PH for his own personal endgame...

Interesting, especially when considering that Carole Middleton and POW have taken endless classist based sneering over the years for being so “pushy” and apparently planning Catherine’s pursuit of William for years, complete with spiteful associated nicknames - the most recent of which allegedly created by DOS. Plots and pursuits hatched by pissed up private club members/employees to hook the remaining royal prince are just fine though?

Maireas · 04/12/2023 20:35

I was just reading about how upset - understandably - Sophie is about being called a "casual bigot" in the book. What on earth has she ever done to them?
It's so cruel.

pilates · 04/12/2023 20:36

Wow @Bookworm1111
You have to have a good memory to be a good liar. Meghan and Omid are not pals you know 🙄

Serenster · 04/12/2023 21:09

pilates · 04/12/2023 20:36

Wow @Bookworm1111
You have to have a good memory to be a good liar. Meghan and Omid are not pals you know 🙄

To be fair, I don’t think that’s actually Meghan in that photo. It’s been speculated it’s her, but I don’t think it looks much like her in terms of the face shape.

AutumnCrow · 04/12/2023 21:12

Serenster · 04/12/2023 21:09

To be fair, I don’t think that’s actually Meghan in that photo. It’s been speculated it’s her, but I don’t think it looks much like her in terms of the face shape.

True. I wouldn't be able to tell who it was tbh.

pilates · 04/12/2023 21:17

Her shape of face has changed if you look at old photos of her.

BoohooWoohoo · 04/12/2023 21:23

Maireas · 04/12/2023 20:35

I was just reading about how upset - understandably - Sophie is about being called a "casual bigot" in the book. What on earth has she ever done to them?
It's so cruel.

She was asked in an interview about her opinions on the Oprah interview. She replied “Oprah who?” to deflect the question.
Omid says it means that Sophie doesn’t think Oprah is getting the respect that she deserves for being a super successful black woman.

JSMill · 04/12/2023 21:26

Maireas · 04/12/2023 20:35

I was just reading about how upset - understandably - Sophie is about being called a "casual bigot" in the book. What on earth has she ever done to them?
It's so cruel.

I'm not a lawyer but I would imagine Sophie would have a great legal case if she wanted to sue.

BoohooWoohoo · 04/12/2023 21:28

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.vn/2023.12.04-002555/www.thetimes.co.uk/article/omid-scobies-agent-sent-draft-of-endgame-naming-royals-in-race-row-jjtvfxvr6" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.vn/2023.12.04-002555/www.thetimes.co.uk/article/omid-scobies-agent-sent-draft-of-endgame-naming-royals-in-race-row-jjtvfxvr6

Apologies if this has been shared already

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstotheyard · 04/12/2023 21:42

I don't believe the woman in that 2012 picture is MM. I believe he said they did know each other as far back as 2015, when he met her at Toronto Fashion Week.

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meercat23 · 04/12/2023 21:51

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstotheyard · 04/12/2023 21:42

I don't believe the woman in that 2012 picture is MM. I believe he said they did know each other as far back as 2015, when he met her at Toronto Fashion Week.

I think you are probably right, on the other hand I haven't seen much reason to believe his statements on anything much so far.

Chouxpastryishard · 04/12/2023 22:19

Serenster · 04/12/2023 21:09

To be fair, I don’t think that’s actually Meghan in that photo. It’s been speculated it’s her, but I don’t think it looks much like her in terms of the face shape.

I don’t think it’s her either.

CauliflowerCheese30 · 04/12/2023 22:29

I think Kate sussed Meghan out right from the very start, or at least within a few weeks of meeting.

themessygarden · 04/12/2023 22:31

Bookworm1111 · 04/12/2023 19:53

I agree! There is a widely shared photo of Scobie and MM on a yacht in Cannes from 2012, when he was dating her friend, Markus Anderson, who ran Soho House. You have to wonder whether Scobie had a hand in encouraging her pursuit of PH for his own personal endgame...

That’s Lainey Liu, a Canadian gossip columnist. Friend if MM, Jessica Mulroney and long term colleague of Jessica’s husband.

parksandrecs · 04/12/2023 22:47

I think Meghan and Harry have made numerous dishonest (cleverly worded, and therefore making implications that can be endlessly denied) statements since they have been together. There is no need to forge previous connections.
Edited for spelling mistake

upinaballoon · 04/12/2023 23:12

"As if she didn't have 65 years of experience of dealing with politicians, foreign leaders and communist dictators and outright chancers......."😁

Nice to end the evening on a grin. And so to bed.................

Vespanest · 04/12/2023 23:32

I feel for Sophie, she appears to want to blend into the background. There seems to be a rule that females who marry in are fair game. Luckily Fergie got divorced long ago.

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