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The royal family

Omid Scobie's New Book - PART 2

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Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 27/11/2023 17:08

I'm not sure what is the correct etiquette for carrying on a thread, but here we are. Thanks to @BoxedandRibboned for the original thread.

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JSMill · 30/11/2023 09:40

OS is on This Morning. I doubt he'll get much of a grilling from whoever is presenting it this morning, which is probably why he's agreed to go on it.

YourNameGoesHere · 30/11/2023 09:42

JSMill · 30/11/2023 09:40

OS is on This Morning. I doubt he'll get much of a grilling from whoever is presenting it this morning, which is probably why he's agreed to go on it.

I suspect his responses will be much the same as his statement. A lot of words basically saying nothing and deflecting the actual question.

PopNotPolitics · 30/11/2023 09:42

Didn't Megan deny being involved with the previous book, which was later disproven in court?

EdithWeston · 30/11/2023 09:43

Chouxpastryishard · 30/11/2023 08:27

The silence from H and M is deafening, isn’t it. If they don’t completely disassociate themselves from this book it is an implicit approval. There’s no doubt where Scobie got his info from in any case. Surely the RF will be completely done with them now for ever. All boats burned

It occurred to me also that if H and M divorce , M will probably go in no holds barred and just dish every piece of dirt she can true or not.

Edited

I don't think there's any sign they're heading for divorce.

Only gossip otherwise, and I think it's sketchy - I mean, Harry's a metal head, but still goes along to other concerts (where he understandably looks underwhelmed) and presumably does so to please his wife. That's a good thing, isn't it?

And he's said for years - long before he even met Meghan, how much he wanted children. So I think he's got what he wanted and I believe it when commentators say they're in a good place

cheezncrackers · 30/11/2023 10:00

The only way they'll get divorced is if Meghan divorces him, it won't be the other way round. He's not going to give up living with his kids willingly. But I think they're stuck with each other, whether things are great or not. She needs her prince to still be someone (look how Fergie basically sank without trace after her divorce from 'spare' Andrew), and he's basically torched his entire life to be wit her - family, friends, popularity, life in the UK - what does he have left apart from her and their kids?

MrsFinkelstein · 30/11/2023 10:06

The book seems to have backfired a bit on OS (& on H&M too - there's very little doubt they were involved in some way).

Had this come out just after the Oprah interview and before Netflix it would have been much more damaging.

Twitter can be an echo chamber (but I do follow a lot of Americans who have been very pro-Sussex up till now), and my Tiktok feed is pretty open from both "camps", as is my Insta...but the overall view seems to see this a damp squib. Most are saying H&M had to be involved, and that it's just H taking it out on Camilla, and M being jealous of C. The whole "error" in foreign versions is just seen as a way to get the names out accidently on purpose.

The usual Sussex fans have been very quiet and the neutrals are pretty over it - "sh*t or get off the pot" seems to be the point I've heard most, a lot of people are fed up with the faux coyness of the Sussexes.

It does seem strange though - if this was an actual early draft the Dutch translator got it's been written very weirdly. It's the thing everyone has been talking about since Oprah - and it's buried in a couple of paragraphs and there's no build up or follow through? What author would do that? Or publisher? Kind of like it's just a deliberate "oops", didn't mean to say that, oh well...

Viviennemary · 30/11/2023 10:10

I'm just watching it now. Backpedalling much. Looks to me that he has bitten off more than he can chew. He didn't speak directly to Meghan but spoke to her communications officer. Hmm. Not me Guv. He's very defensive. He is not talking about racism but unconscious bias. He is getting into deep water now.

ArcaneWireless · 30/11/2023 10:15

Morals ethics and values?

Pot, kettle my little shite stirrer.

ArcaneWireless · 30/11/2023 10:16

Handled in a respectful and mature way?

Yeah ye did.

DaggerIsle · 30/11/2023 10:19

PopNotPolitics · 30/11/2023 09:42

Didn't Megan deny being involved with the previous book, which was later disproven in court?

Yes, apparently she'd forgotten she'd sent information via her secretary.

Viviennemary · 30/11/2023 10:24

JSMill · 30/11/2023 09:10

Having had a scroll through Twitter, I feel most people are supportive of the RF. However Twitter is an echo chamber and you do tend to see views similar to your own.

I'm not really a royalist. But the thought of them being brought down by Meghan Harry and Scobie with their silly tittletattling and denials. And this is Harry whi is always whining about the press.

ArcaneWireless · 30/11/2023 10:31

Apparently He didn’t call Kate a Stepford wife but Stepford wife-like?

Two can play that game.

Cuntygobshite or cuntygobshite-like?

But bless. He is on the UB bus too.

And it looked as though a smirk was suppressed when they were on about the names.

And he said everyone in Fleet Street knew anyway? Well that’s ok then.

My opinion of him has not changed.

YourNameGoesHere · 30/11/2023 10:42

So he's said he never submitted one... He didn't say he never wrote one...

AutumnCrow · 30/11/2023 10:42

I think the lawyers are circling.

Makemydaypunk · 30/11/2023 10:44

cheezncrackers · 30/11/2023 10:00

The only way they'll get divorced is if Meghan divorces him, it won't be the other way round. He's not going to give up living with his kids willingly. But I think they're stuck with each other, whether things are great or not. She needs her prince to still be someone (look how Fergie basically sank without trace after her divorce from 'spare' Andrew), and he's basically torched his entire life to be wit her - family, friends, popularity, life in the UK - what does he have left apart from her and their kids?

Edited

Agree, they are stuck with each other now whether they like it or not.

mrsmingleton · 30/11/2023 10:48

Viviennemary · 30/11/2023 10:24

I'm not really a royalist. But the thought of them being brought down by Meghan Harry and Scobie with their silly tittletattling and denials. And this is Harry whi is always whining about the press.

That's never going to happen.

BoohooWoohoo · 30/11/2023 10:50

YourNameGoesHere · 30/11/2023 10:42

So he's said he never submitted one... He didn't say he never wrote one...

His dog must have submitted the version with names 🤔

YourNameGoesHere · 30/11/2023 10:52

BoohooWoohoo · 30/11/2023 10:50

His dog must have submitted the version with names 🤔

Nah don't blame the dog, they are too loyal, a cat on the other hand... This is exactly the sort of shit a cat would do. Grin

AutumnCrow · 30/11/2023 10:52

YourNameGoesHere · 30/11/2023 10:52

Nah don't blame the dog, they are too loyal, a cat on the other hand... This is exactly the sort of shit a cat would do. Grin

And the cat goes to a different school

JSMill · 30/11/2023 10:55

Viviennemary · 30/11/2023 10:10

I'm just watching it now. Backpedalling much. Looks to me that he has bitten off more than he can chew. He didn't speak directly to Meghan but spoke to her communications officer. Hmm. Not me Guv. He's very defensive. He is not talking about racism but unconscious bias. He is getting into deep water now.

I didn't watch all of it as I had to leave. Dermot seemed very well prepared and keen not to let him off the hook. I guess he couldn't be really aggressive as TM isn't that kind of programme. OS is a silly self important little shit and a dishonest one.

Viviennemary · 30/11/2023 10:56

On Oprah Meghan said the conversation was with Harry. Now Scobie seemed to,say the conversation was between the two named and not with Harry. Who leaked. At least this all means the pair are unkely to be back in the royal fold any time soon.

smilesy · 30/11/2023 11:17

Viviennemary · 30/11/2023 10:56

On Oprah Meghan said the conversation was with Harry. Now Scobie seemed to,say the conversation was between the two named and not with Harry. Who leaked. At least this all means the pair are unkely to be back in the royal fold any time soon.

So how did Harry even know about it if the conversation wasn’t with him 🤔

pilates · 30/11/2023 11:21

Didn't Megan deny being involved with the previous book, which was later disproven in court?
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yes that is correct

StartupRepair · 30/11/2023 11:36

He can deny inserting the names but he can't deny writing a spiteful and banal book which amplifies Meghan's 'truth'.

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