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Omid Scobie's new book

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boxedandribboned · 04/11/2023 20:38

Heads up, Omid is back on the PR trail...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-meghan-author-omid-scobie-31362434

BTW, can anyone explain why he's Harper's Royal reporter when he only seems to have access to or report on Harry and Meghan? It's a bit strange.

Harry and Meghan's biographer calls King Charles 'unpopular' in scathing jibe

Omid Scobie's new 'explosive' book Endgame will be published on November 28 - and its description on Amazon says the author investigates the current state of the British monarchy

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/harry-meghan-author-omid-scobie-31362434

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Janiie · 16/11/2023 08:56

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 06/11/2023 07:57

An unpopular king, a power-hungry heir to the throne, a queen willing to go to dangerous lengths to preserve her image, and a prince forced to start a new life after being betrayed by his own family

Eat your heart out, Will Shakespeare 😅

Grin

I feel sorry for him. He actually seems really pleasant and charming on his many telly appearances, surely he could have done better than writing a trashy, gossipy book like Harry. Honestly it's pitiful.

MostFabledWaterway · 16/11/2023 08:59

The only place that Scobie could have got this detail from is Harry or Meghan (or someone speaking with their approval). If you a friend of Harry or Meghan there is no way you are leaking stuff without their approval given the history of Harry's relationship with media.

It is just another tedious rehash of the same events. I thought Harry had covered his complaints about the Queen's death/Royals generally already in Spare and they were both now looking forward? Wasn't it said that the era of looking back had ended.

It is just such a bad look (especially with the genuine misery afflicting so many people in the world at the moment). How many more of these books can there be?

You can also see why Charles William etc. don't return his calls - because whatever is said will end up in the next book all written from Harry's perspective.

Janiie · 16/11/2023 09:13

'It is just such a bad look (especially with the genuine misery afflicting so many people in the world at the moment). How many more of these books can there be?'

Yes why doesn't he realise the mud slinging books are sooo tedious. Harry is a figure of a ridicule and this type of crap just continues to confirm hs status as desperate, jealous whiner.

StormzyinaTCup · 16/11/2023 09:27
Horse Prince GIF by South Park

🤡

Samcro · 16/11/2023 09:29

odd that Harry gets bashed about a book he hasn't written
yet will and co don't get bashed for the anti H&M books that are written.

StormzyinaTCup · 16/11/2023 09:32

Oops, that's a bit in your face!! I was expecting it to post a bit smaller than that.

MrsFinkelstein · 16/11/2023 09:38

Samcro · 16/11/2023 09:29

odd that Harry gets bashed about a book he hasn't written
yet will and co don't get bashed for the anti H&M books that are written.

Possibly because it's pretty evident someone from the Sussex camp has been talking to Scobie up to fairly recently.

While, with the other books there is no evidence that the RF or anyone of any close significance to them have been talking to the authors.

Charles obviously learned his lesson after the Dimbleby book/TV interview, and William learnt from both his parents.

themessygarden · 16/11/2023 09:41

Samcro · 16/11/2023 09:29

odd that Harry gets bashed about a book he hasn't written
yet will and co don't get bashed for the anti H&M books that are written.

I don't think it is odd, I think that is explained by the fact it was proven H&M liaised with Omid on the first book, so it goes without saying there is skepticism they had nothing to do with this one. I do think Omid is using first hand info from the original book to rehash old stories and also using the contents of Spare and Harry and Meghan's own public statements to embellish things and make a book out of it..

There is no proof William or anyone else cooperated with any of the books written about H&M, while there may be question marks around it, there is absolutely no proof and never has been proof, maybe that will change when Harrys' court case happens and the proof will be there for all to see (or not,as there may be no proof at all).

Serenster · 16/11/2023 09:52

We know from Meghan’s court cases that Meghan and Harry ensured Omid Scobie was provided with their briefings for Finding Freedom, and by the time of the litigation against the Daily Mail he was an embedded part of their team, being passed court filings to be tweeted out as soon as they were filed.

Given this, the better question would surely be why do people think this book was written without input from the Sussexes? Who would be the sources they think that could have told Omid how many times Harry’s phone rang with an unknown number, or who it was that told Harry he better answer it?

CathyorClaire · 16/11/2023 10:07

Just catching up here and am confused.

Has the PRH book deal been pulled as PP said?

I can't find any reports confirming this.

LadyMuckingabout · 16/11/2023 10:40

I should think PRH might be a bit cheesed off about EndGame. There are only so many revelations and Omid Scobie has hoovered up the latest bit of gossip.

Frankly I’m sure PRH are only interested in Spare-type material. Prince Harry on mental health or elephants - nah. Otoh a Meghan tell all would be a big money spinner so I expect that is part of the business plan.

Janiie · 16/11/2023 10:41

Samcro · 16/11/2023 09:29

odd that Harry gets bashed about a book he hasn't written
yet will and co don't get bashed for the anti H&M books that are written.

Scobie apparently says who said what at Balmoral after the Queen died and how poor Harry was snubbed. Do you think Princess Anne is The Royal Mole? Do you really think after we now know H was providing him for his tabloid gossip for Finding Freedom he had absolutely nothing to do with this latest mudslinging crap?!

ALittleTeawithmilk · 16/11/2023 10:46

ThenKatyFainted · 16/11/2023 08:20

This is such a bad look for Harry, it strikes the same whiny 'poor me' note as Spare...

At Balmoral, Harry was also not invited to a dinner that Charles had with Queen Camilla and Prince William and so he flew home early the next day, on September 9, says Scobie.

"When he arrived at Balmoral, Princess Anne warmly greeted him and led him to the Queen's room, where he spent a quiet moment privately paying his respects," Scobie wrote. "He had hoped to see his father—who had made it to Balmoral Castle in time to see his mother alive—to express his sympathies, but he was informed that Charles, William, and Camilla had already left for Birkhall together.

"Again, no invite was extended to Harry. That night after eating he retired to his room, exhausted by the day's emotional roller coaster," Scobie continued. "He was glad to have had a private moment to say goodbye to his grandmother, but there was no point in sticking around.

"With no offer to return with William and the others in the morning (all of his texts, including a thoughtful message about the loss of their grandmother, continued to be ignored), Harry booked his own British Airways ticket on the first available departing flight."

https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-crushed-queen-elizabeth-death-scobie-book-endgame-1844055#:~:text=%22Harry%20was%20crushed%2C%22%20a,one%20respected%20that%20at%20all.%22

That was all in Harry’s book. Nothing new there.

ALittleTeawithmilk · 16/11/2023 10:48

Janiie · 16/11/2023 10:41

Scobie apparently says who said what at Balmoral after the Queen died and how poor Harry was snubbed. Do you think Princess Anne is The Royal Mole? Do you really think after we now know H was providing him for his tabloid gossip for Finding Freedom he had absolutely nothing to do with this latest mudslinging crap?!

It was all in Harry’s book, Janie.

LadyMuckingabout · 16/11/2023 10:48

Also if someone wrote a book without my authority I’d say so. Now, some will say “But the rf don’t do that….” But the rf have a never explain mantra. Harry is no longer a working royal so he could if he chose easily deny any collaboration with Omid Scobie.

Someone has given Omid Scobie this private information. Either it is true and OS is their outlet, or it is made up, in which case that means the whole book plus Finding Freedom contains untruths…

ALittleTeawithmilk · 16/11/2023 10:54

CathyorClaire · 16/11/2023 10:07

Just catching up here and am confused.

Has the PRH book deal been pulled as PP said?

I can't find any reports confirming this.

I’ve found nothing either, CathyorClaire.

I’m beginning to wonder what the 3 book deal entailed. Are we even sure there was a 3 book deal?

The idea that Harry has ‘ told it all’, and there’s nothing left makes no sense to me. But I do think he has said all he is going to say about the RF.

Serenster · 16/11/2023 11:11

It was all in Harry’s book, Janie.

It wasn’t, though. Comparing the two accounts, there’s a lot more detail in Omid Scobie’s account, including information about the discussions that were going on behind the scenes between the “Sussexes’ team” (maybe that included Omid - he was tweeting about what Meghan and Harry were planning on doing that day, remember) and the Palace while Harry was in the air flying to Aberdeen.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 16/11/2023 11:13

Samcro · 16/11/2023 09:29

odd that Harry gets bashed about a book he hasn't written
yet will and co don't get bashed for the anti H&M books that are written.

Its always the way isn't it? there were books written with stories that could have only come from William, but thats ok because it's William!

Serenster · 16/11/2023 11:19

Examples always welcome…

MostFabledWaterway · 16/11/2023 11:31

Even if Harry and Meghan had nothing to do with this latest book - it really doesn't help them and Omid Scobie positions himself as one of their biggest cheerleaders. Why would he do this without their tacit approval? They have already been widely ridiculed for their continuous complaining.

There seems to be a complete and massive inability to read the room.

MrsLeonFarrell · 16/11/2023 11:51

From what has been written about the contents of the book I think it is probable that Scobie has based this entirely on other sources rather than Harry or Meghan. He seems to embroider public comments in interviews and the extra chapter of Spare rather than present brand new information that could only have been obtained from them directly.

I also believe that it is probably that some of the sources he used spoke in the more unsettled period when they were giving their story to the media rather than recently when that sort of interview seems to have died down. I doubt he has up to date sources.

Whilst you reap what you sow I do feel rather sorry for Harry and Meghan that this is being released after they have moved on and are trying to focus on their own projects. I don't believe that content will be as damaging for the royal family in general because Scobie has a record of being wrong and being rather nasty with some of his tweets.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 16/11/2023 11:54

Serenster · 16/11/2023 08:56

With no offer to return with William and the others in the morning (all of his texts, including a thoughtful message about the loss of their grandmother, continued to be ignored),

William was quite prescient there, since shortly afterwards we all saw how William’s private texts to Harry after the Oprah interview were filmed by Netflix as they were received, along with Meghan and Harry’s reaction to them. So doubtless if William had responded, his private messages would have been publicised now.

Which circles neatly back to one of the reasons why this still being raked over is not great for the Sussexes - many many people can see clearly that there were good reasons why the red carpet was not going to be rolled out for them at a private family moment. Those of us who are adults know that while you can make your own decisions as an adult, if they impact on other people, those people get to make decisions too. And you may not like them.

Really good point here. At the time of the Queen’s death, both Spare and the Netflix doc were in the can, and everyone knew they were imminent. Allegedly, H&M had already been caught filming/recording or trying to film/record around the palaces before they left the UK. They were quite happy to say some damaging stuff on Oprah about his family. William may well have had an awareness that his communications were not in safe hands with these two.

In any event, I find Harry’s bleating that his brother wasn’t doing this or that for him on the day of the Queen’s death somewhat pathetic. The eldest son of the man who was about to be thrust into the biggest role of his life may have had other things to do than sort out his absentee, grown up brother’s transportation logistics. Like supporting his father, supporting /communicating with his wife and children, being on standby for assisting in everything that must have been going on that day and what was to come. The long written protocols for what was to come must have been immense.

Also, the notion that Harry was unaware of the extent of his grandmother’s illness is ridiculous. Literally the whole country could see it, as well as the world’s press, that Harry apparently scours. At the very least, the York sisters were in touch with him and would have made him aware that their beloved granny was near to her end.

There’s also a subcontext to all this that Harry was the most important person on his grandmother’s life, and his not seeing her before her death was a more aggregious wrong than anyone else who was close to her not seeing her. This is all part of his deluded notion that he was her absolute favourite grandchild, and his claims that he had to keep an eye on her to make sure the people around her weren’t doing her wrong.

This is all just a deflected guilt trip on Harry’s part. He had the chance to visit when the Queen Was at Balmoral at the end, and he blew it and he knows it. And sorry, I don’t believe for a minute that they have not fed this stuff to Scobie; and if they didn’t, then they should probably sue him, since they are quite happy to stand up for “their truth” via litigation.

themessygarden · 16/11/2023 11:59

Serenster, do you believe they are involved again this time? I am a bit sceptical about their involvement, I would have expected they would stay far away from him for fear of getting burnt a second time. . It will be interesting to see how the book pans out and if it is just embellishing old stories..

It was clear Scobie was briefed from the Sussex camp about them both travelling to Balmoral together, Harry has since confirmed that indeed was their plan until it was made clear Meghan was not invited, Scobie then had to do a quick retraction.

I do wonder how he will address Harry and Meghan admitting they collaborated with him on Finding Freedom. That will be interesting to read.

OliviaBean · 16/11/2023 12:04

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 16/11/2023 11:54

Really good point here. At the time of the Queen’s death, both Spare and the Netflix doc were in the can, and everyone knew they were imminent. Allegedly, H&M had already been caught filming/recording or trying to film/record around the palaces before they left the UK. They were quite happy to say some damaging stuff on Oprah about his family. William may well have had an awareness that his communications were not in safe hands with these two.

In any event, I find Harry’s bleating that his brother wasn’t doing this or that for him on the day of the Queen’s death somewhat pathetic. The eldest son of the man who was about to be thrust into the biggest role of his life may have had other things to do than sort out his absentee, grown up brother’s transportation logistics. Like supporting his father, supporting /communicating with his wife and children, being on standby for assisting in everything that must have been going on that day and what was to come. The long written protocols for what was to come must have been immense.

Also, the notion that Harry was unaware of the extent of his grandmother’s illness is ridiculous. Literally the whole country could see it, as well as the world’s press, that Harry apparently scours. At the very least, the York sisters were in touch with him and would have made him aware that their beloved granny was near to her end.

There’s also a subcontext to all this that Harry was the most important person on his grandmother’s life, and his not seeing her before her death was a more aggregious wrong than anyone else who was close to her not seeing her. This is all part of his deluded notion that he was her absolute favourite grandchild, and his claims that he had to keep an eye on her to make sure the people around her weren’t doing her wrong.

This is all just a deflected guilt trip on Harry’s part. He had the chance to visit when the Queen Was at Balmoral at the end, and he blew it and he knows it. And sorry, I don’t believe for a minute that they have not fed this stuff to Scobie; and if they didn’t, then they should probably sue him, since they are quite happy to stand up for “their truth” via litigation.

Spot on.

How can anyone say they aren't involved in this book. Who would have told OS about Harry's bedside chat with the queen after she died. If OS made this up, then I expect H&M will sue.

I'd imagine the RF are fairly annoyed that anyone would talk about the Queen's bedside. Really inappropriate.

StrawberryJellyBelly · 16/11/2023 12:09

newnamethanks · 16/11/2023 07:23

He "answered the phone just before it stopped". Yup, Omid, that's how phones work. They ring, you answer, ringing stops. Well done on your observational skills.

What an embarrassment that part is.

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