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MamoruHisaishi · 14/09/2023 15:46

CallieQ · 14/09/2023 15:42

No need to shout

It was a copy and paste from the title of the article. No shouting here at all.

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Novella4 · 14/09/2023 15:52

@MamoruHisaishi

Oh but it very much is about the ‘royals’

This is an attempt to link Willy ro SOMETHING which won’t disappear without trace - like all the other ‘initiatives’

It is not about the actual researchers at all. They are mere props - despite all their good work . Who was on stage ( woodenly) giving speeches with as many celebs as could be tacked on ? Willy .

But as you say the researchers do good work .

What is offensive is the fact that another persons speech , inspiration , even coining of the term ‘earthshot‘ has been ‘borrowed’ and without any acknowledgment.
Why?
To attempt to puff up Willy Windsor .

If he has acknowledged the originator of the inspiration please show me

Samcro · 14/09/2023 15:53

MamoruHisaishi · 14/09/2023 15:41

I think it's harry and Meghan who uses private jets more often than the wales do. Ironic since Harry has his own environmental project going on. Also, there's nothing wrong in wanting to make a difference. Even if William doesn't solve the homeless problem, the fact that he is trying with this new initiative will at least help to highlight this serious issue.

Also, what does this have to do with earth shot again? The topic is about the event itself, not William.

its the royal family topic. so people talk about the royal family here.

MamoruHisaishi · 14/09/2023 15:57

ILikeDinosaurs · 14/09/2023 14:09

hey, I guess now you're in agreement with the likes of piers Morgan

Lol now you put down Piers Morgan because he's criticised William? HmmGrin I don't watch him or follow him so I don't know what he says. Is he only acceptable when he criticises Harry and Meghan then? If he feels the need to criticise William then perhaps he has a reason to. It's nothing to do with me, I hate that man. But William is not above criticism in any way, shape or form.

coming up with solutions to slow down/prevent climate change without trying to force people to drastically change their way of life

How is that going to work when CC is so urgent? My main observation re Earthshot is the lack of joined up thinking on a project such as this. Let's solve CC by holding a glamorous event somewhere hundreds of people can fly to. thereby reducing any good work the nominees/winners are trying to achieve! Yep, that'll work Confused

Lol when did I ever say I liked Piers Morgan? I have never liked him but it's funny that you are now in agreement with a man you hate because he's criticised William. No one ever said William shouldn't ever be criticized but part of your reason for disliking him is because you THINK he would only support the men's football team and not the womens football team without any evidence to back up your opinion. If you're going to criticize him, make it something that's actually not a projection of yours.

Did you even read the article I posted about the actual impact that earth shot has given to the participants? Your ignorance and lack of knowledge of this initiative clearly shows. This ‘glamorous’ event helps connect the participants to the people who are key to helping the fight against climate change. One of the things I've read about is that criticizing or trying to shame people for flying isn't going to help stop climate change because this is part of modern life. People will continue to do it. Just like criticizing people for driving to help save the planet isn't going to stop people from doing, so the next step is to find ways to make travelling via car or Plane environmentally friendly.

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Samcro · 14/09/2023 16:01

how rude. "Your ignorance and lack of knowledge of this initiative clearly shows. "

MamoruHisaishi · 14/09/2023 16:03

Samcro · 14/09/2023 15:53

its the royal family topic. so people talk about the royal family here.

It is but only because William created this. The thread is about the event itself. So unless you're discussing earth shot, then this is basically derailing the thread. And it is a shame that some posters here who have attacked me and even reported me for derailing in other threads have the nerve to come into this thread and do the exact same thing they've accused me of. This topic is about earth shot itself, not about the royals or William not going to the womens football in Australia.

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MamoruHisaishi · 14/09/2023 16:06

Samcro · 14/09/2023 16:01

how rude. "Your ignorance and lack of knowledge of this initiative clearly shows. "

Rude because they are making up things that they clearly don't know about?

I posted an article about the positive impact that earth shot has given to the participants which directly contradicts the other poster’s opinions. It is ignorance to claim something when they have nothing to back up their beliefs.

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ILikeDinosaurs · 14/09/2023 16:16

MamoruHisaishi · 14/09/2023 15:27

Wow way to crap on people who are making a difference on trying to save the planet from climate change just because of your hatred for royals. FYI, this isn't about the royals, this is an initiative to reward the people from all over the world in trying to find solutions for climate change. Feel free to hate on the royals but what did these participants ever do to you and why do you hate an initiative that is trying to find solutions for a good cause?

Wow. Why are you crapping on other people's opinions? We are not criticising the reason for the initiative itself - think everyone knows it's important and worthwhile - just the execution.

You crapped quite gleefully all over the Invictus games with your posts, didn't you? I didn't see you caring for the veterans one jot.. Just wanted to post endless digs at Harry and Meghan. Just deal with it.

MamoruHisaishi · 14/09/2023 16:25

Novella4 · 14/09/2023 15:52

@MamoruHisaishi

Oh but it very much is about the ‘royals’

This is an attempt to link Willy ro SOMETHING which won’t disappear without trace - like all the other ‘initiatives’

It is not about the actual researchers at all. They are mere props - despite all their good work . Who was on stage ( woodenly) giving speeches with as many celebs as could be tacked on ? Willy .

But as you say the researchers do good work .

What is offensive is the fact that another persons speech , inspiration , even coining of the term ‘earthshot‘ has been ‘borrowed’ and without any acknowledgment.
Why?
To attempt to puff up Willy Windsor .

If he has acknowledged the originator of the inspiration please show me

Lol your hatred of William and the royals is making you blind by the good work that earth shot is doing. You conveniently ignore all the people, from politicians to scientists to philanthropists to celebrities to the ordinary citizens involved in this project just to shit on William because he created this and therefore this is bad and not a worthy cause. I guess you know better than the likes of the scientists and bill gates and ardern, because they do believe in this and have thrown their support for earth shot. They don’t believe this is just merely William’s vanity project. Speaking again of which, where is your criticism of Harry and his copying of the warrior games?

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MamoruHisaishi · 14/09/2023 16:31

ILikeDinosaurs · 14/09/2023 16:16

Wow. Why are you crapping on other people's opinions? We are not criticising the reason for the initiative itself - think everyone knows it's important and worthwhile - just the execution.

You crapped quite gleefully all over the Invictus games with your posts, didn't you? I didn't see you caring for the veterans one jot.. Just wanted to post endless digs at Harry and Meghan. Just deal with it.

Is mentioning the royals and expressing their opinion of how much they dislike william relevant to earth shot and how it’s executed?

where did I crap gleefully on the Invictus games? I posted that it flopped because it didn’t make it to the top 10 most watched series on Netflix because it’s true. Show me the posts where I made endless digs at Harry and Meghan at Invictus.

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ILikeDinosaurs · 14/09/2023 16:32

Speaking again of which, where is your criticism of Harry and his copying of the warrior games?

Harry has SAID his inspiration was the US Warrior Games. He has never said he came up with it by himself. So why should he be criticised for starting the IG?

ILikeDinosaurs · 14/09/2023 16:35

I would think saving the climate is a more worthy cause than an event that basically copied the warrior games in the USA.

Seriously? So you think supporting the veterans who fought for us and suffered severe disabilities in the process ISN'T a worthy cause? Shock
I know you hate H&M but that is below the belt. You should be ashamed for saying that, just to win an argument. Jeezus.

Novella4 · 14/09/2023 16:37

@MamoruHisaishi

Your reading comprehension isn’t great.
mu forst and all subsequent posts have been focussed on the fact that the name and ‘Inspration story ‘ have been told to us as Williams solely.

Now please tell me where he acknowledges that a Goldman Prize winner in 2008 set out in his speech the same inspiration and term ‘earthshot ‘ - 12 years before Willy claims he was inspired !
It’s that which I object to

Novella4 · 14/09/2023 16:39

Yes @Serenster also made the same erroneous comparison with Invictus . I do not want this to become another W and K versus H thread but Harry did acknowledge the inspiration

Now where has Willy done the same ?

MamoruHisaishi · 14/09/2023 16:41

ILikeDinosaurs · 14/09/2023 16:35

I would think saving the climate is a more worthy cause than an event that basically copied the warrior games in the USA.

Seriously? So you think supporting the veterans who fought for us and suffered severe disabilities in the process ISN'T a worthy cause? Shock
I know you hate H&M but that is below the belt. You should be ashamed for saying that, just to win an argument. Jeezus.

Climate change is a more worthy cause as this is something that will basically impact the whole world and future generations. The games aren’t bad in itself but this doesn’t make as much of an impact to the world.

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ILikeDinosaurs · 14/09/2023 16:45

Is mentioning the royals and expressing their opinion of how much they dislike william relevant to earth shot and how it’s executed?

My point was the lack of joined up thinking, which is typical of W (& K's) projects. They never seem to progress in any way, yet when something does seem successful - such as this - there are so many holes in the way they've gone about it. I think W and K do the bare minimum, they only pay lip service to things, don't do any deep thinking on the matter, perhaps because they are so used to have other people do everything for them. It's just lame.

This is just my impression of course, and I'm allowed to express it.

MamoruHisaishi · 14/09/2023 16:46

Novella4 · 14/09/2023 16:37

@MamoruHisaishi

Your reading comprehension isn’t great.
mu forst and all subsequent posts have been focussed on the fact that the name and ‘Inspration story ‘ have been told to us as Williams solely.

Now please tell me where he acknowledges that a Goldman Prize winner in 2008 set out in his speech the same inspiration and term ‘earthshot ‘ - 12 years before Willy claims he was inspired !
It’s that which I object to

wheres the evidence for your claim? I see so many people stating their opinions as facts and you have the nerve to say my reading comprehension isn’t great. And speaking of reading comprehension, this topic is about earth shot and not about William and you making up a claim that he got the idea of earth shot from someone who made a speech back in 2008. I will be reporting you for derailing.

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Roussette · 14/09/2023 16:46

Something tells me that if Harry was Earthshot and William was Invictus the opinion that Earthshot is far more important would be completely reversed to being the least important, and what about the wonderful Invictus Games.

Ineedwinenow · 14/09/2023 16:48

As someone who works in the conservation sector, I genuinely can’t wait to hear about the work of this year’s nominations, I don’t care that it’s Prince William heading it up, I just care that there are groups and individuals throughout the world that are making a difference and not just moaning on Mumsnet about Prince William stealing the idea or laughing along with Mr Morgan especially as though same people are angry when it’s aimed at H & M

I am also following the Invictus games as I have a member of my family wounded in the services and that is also another incredible charity and it’s amazing that all these military personnel are bought together for this remarkable reason

Why can’t you all just agree that both initiatives are great for the people it supports and why is one poster calling him Willy? His name is William? He isn’t at school..

So good luck in both your endeavours William & Harry, you are both making a difference.. ( not that I’m sure they are reading this)

MamoruHisaishi · 14/09/2023 16:53

ILikeDinosaurs · 14/09/2023 16:45

Is mentioning the royals and expressing their opinion of how much they dislike william relevant to earth shot and how it’s executed?

My point was the lack of joined up thinking, which is typical of W (& K's) projects. They never seem to progress in any way, yet when something does seem successful - such as this - there are so many holes in the way they've gone about it. I think W and K do the bare minimum, they only pay lip service to things, don't do any deep thinking on the matter, perhaps because they are so used to have other people do everything for them. It's just lame.

This is just my impression of course, and I'm allowed to express it.

I just posted two articles about how earth shot is allowing the participants to further expand their work due to the connections they’re making and therefore making a bigger impact than they normally would. The people involved come from a range of backgrounds who want to make this initiative a success, so the royals/william aren’t actually running this solely. There are major public figures, as well as scientists, who are backing this and have an input as to how this is organised and run. So I don’t know what you mean by lack of joined up thinking?

Also, this topic isn’t about William or Kate, this is about earth shot. Can you please stop focusing on them?

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Novella4 · 14/09/2023 16:53

@MamoruHisaishi

Report away - though I’d argue that the inspiration for the whole thing is perfectly relevant !

Heres what you do @MamoruHisaishi
Look up the video or text of the speech of the winners of the 2008 Goldman Environmental Prize .
This is in the public domain .
It was discussed on Twitter when Willy claimed his own ( precisely the same - terminology and all) inspiration
There is even a video .

I am not lying . I’m sure you wish I were

MamoruHisaishi · 14/09/2023 16:55

Roussette · 14/09/2023 16:46

Something tells me that if Harry was Earthshot and William was Invictus the opinion that Earthshot is far more important would be completely reversed to being the least important, and what about the wonderful Invictus Games.

No, because it won’t be the truth. Fighting climate change will make a bigger impact on billions of people around the world including future generations. And this isn’t an exaggeration. It is the truth.

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ILikeDinosaurs · 14/09/2023 16:56

Roussette · 14/09/2023 16:46

Something tells me that if Harry was Earthshot and William was Invictus the opinion that Earthshot is far more important would be completely reversed to being the least important, and what about the wonderful Invictus Games.

Absolutely 😂

Way to crap on the veterans @MamoruHisaishi Both causes are important but the IG have made a huge impact around the world, especially to those solidiers in Ukraine.

You've lowered yourself all because you hate Harry. 🙄

MamoruHisaishi · 14/09/2023 16:58

Novella4 · 14/09/2023 16:53

@MamoruHisaishi

Report away - though I’d argue that the inspiration for the whole thing is perfectly relevant !

Heres what you do @MamoruHisaishi
Look up the video or text of the speech of the winners of the 2008 Goldman Environmental Prize .
This is in the public domain .
It was discussed on Twitter when Willy claimed his own ( precisely the same - terminology and all) inspiration
There is even a video .

I am not lying . I’m sure you wish I were

How are the royals relevant to earth shot? An initiative that is backed by scientists, bill gates and Caroline Kennedy and ardern and Michael Bloomberg? And is about helping to fight climate change? William created it but the event itself is backed by many other people.

if you’re going to make these sorts of claims post the video yourself here. This is why I don’t take you seriously. You go on and on about the royals in a thread that has nothing to do with them and yet you whine and complain when others criticise Harry and Meghan.

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ILikeDinosaurs · 14/09/2023 17:01

Then why did you post this in the Royals Board if you don't want us to even mention them? ConfusedSurely this should have been put in News or Chat?

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