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What does Prince harry mean by this in his speech at the Wellchild Awards?

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Mornusting · 07/09/2023 20:35

"As you also probably know, she would have been the first person to insist that I still come to be with you all instead of going to her."

He is referring to the Queen.

Is he saying this is why he is not at Balmoral with the rest of the RF? Is this what he means by "going to her"?

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Coronateachingagain · 09/09/2023 18:23

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/09/2023 16:19

Harry name dropping about her grandmother during the WellChild awards

Do you mean Harry talking about his grandmother, who was the Queen?
How is it namedropping?

Does Charles namedrop too when he talks about his mother, the Queen?

And all the tributes this week, was that namedropping too, or is it just Harry who name drops?

Honestly, it's ridiculous.

First he can't talk about his mother, now he can't talk about his grandmother!!

Agree - ridiculous! Remind me what is it he does for a living now?

Iwantcakeeveryday · 09/09/2023 18:27

PrincessOfTigger · 09/09/2023 18:17

You keep accidentally misreading my posts, it’s happened yet again, so perhaps we shouldn’t interact. It’s an anonymous forum, anyone can claim to be anything, and it becomes suspicious when it clashes so heavily with my own experiences.

You can choose not to interact with me but theres a few of us who have read it the same. So should I be suspicious of you, and tell you so, because your experience of being a different race to me, is different to my own? It is wrong of you to say or imply someone is lying because their experience of racism is different to your own, especially when you're not the same race as the people you are accusing.

Maireas · 09/09/2023 18:27

I've just read your very distressing post, @PrincessOfTigger , and am genuinely horrified, though sadly not surprised, about the levels of virulent antisemitism directed towards you and your loved ones. I know the incident with the men in the cars, I've seen film of it. It chilled me to the bone. 💐

Iwantcakeeveryday · 09/09/2023 18:31

skullbabe · 09/09/2023 16:32

She is not black. I would ask her to ask the black people in her community if they also share her sentiments that these experiences of racism are alien to them.

Yes. I am appalled at the maligning of posters of colour because they've shared their experiences of racism. Its disgusting.

Samcro · 09/09/2023 18:31

Maireas · 09/09/2023 17:48

? Nobody's said he can't!

If he does he is accused about making it all about him, or name dropping
(this targeting is getting tiresome)

Maireas · 09/09/2023 18:33

So? He's a big celebrity. Folks are going to criticise. He's not Mandela.

LadyKenya · 09/09/2023 18:35

Iwantcakeeveryday · 09/09/2023 18:31

Yes. I am appalled at the maligning of posters of colour because they've shared their experiences of racism. Its disgusting.

I would take Skullbabes advice, and just do not bother to engage with that poster anymore. It is obvious to myself on here that poc are not going to be listened to when they talk. But hey you know, racism is minimal in this Country!Hmm

themessygarden · 09/09/2023 18:41

Iwantcakeeveryday · 09/09/2023 17:57

So you're a completely different race to myself and @MrsMaxDeWinter but you've decided we must not be telling the truth about our experiences of racism? or have I misunderstood who that was directed at? Could you clarify who you think is inventing the racism they've experienced because its not exactly the same as yours?

LOL the irony ! while you both throw skepticism on the veracity of other posters.

As you say It is an anonymous forum, we could all be Attila the Hun or some spotty faced bored teenager, purporting to be an all knowing and righteous warrior for some cause or other. We only have your written claims about your circumstances and race, same as thats all you have for me and others on here.

The pitfalls of anonymity.

skullbabe · 09/09/2023 18:46

Iwantcakeeveryday · 09/09/2023 17:57

So you're a completely different race to myself and @MrsMaxDeWinter but you've decided we must not be telling the truth about our experiences of racism? or have I misunderstood who that was directed at? Could you clarify who you think is inventing the racism they've experienced because its not exactly the same as yours?

Seriously don’t engage - just read her post how about how totally ridiculous it is that innocuous statements can be misinterpreted as racism when there is actual race based violence happening. It’s almost as if there are not frequent episodes of dog whistle antisemitism on this site that happen - I know it because I’ve reported several and and luckily most people understand and are familiar antisemitic dogwhistles that they take them down quickly - less so with anti black racism. And it’s not far from when people follow on from stereotypes and dogwhistles - the violence and the overt discrimination are not far behind as evidenced by my links.

LadyKenya · 09/09/2023 18:51

Well said@skullbabe . Honestly it is depressing, and sad. People are so willing to downplay racism against black people. It is like a merry go round on here when talking about it. Is it any wonder so many black women don't bother?

skullbabe · 09/09/2023 19:09

while you both throw skepticism on the veracity of other posters.

This started because many posters here ascribe to the “bad apples” theory of bad behaviour. This is when it’s the bad people over there in their tiny numbers who are responsible for bad things and doesn’t look at systems that perpetuate injustices, treats racist incidents as isolated acts which makes things look less pervasive to many and ignores unintentional biases (for example do you know women are more likely to be killed in car accidents than men because crash test manikins tend to be based on male bodies or infrared sensors not being calibrated to sense when a skin with more melanin is waving in front of it - like for those automated taps or other more serious things in healthcare) - this actually stops any work on actually fixing the problem.

PrincessOfTigger · 09/09/2023 19:10

Maireas · 09/09/2023 18:27

I've just read your very distressing post, @PrincessOfTigger , and am genuinely horrified, though sadly not surprised, about the levels of virulent antisemitism directed towards you and your loved ones. I know the incident with the men in the cars, I've seen film of it. It chilled me to the bone. 💐

Thank you… they actually went right past my brother’s house. Nobody was even prosecuted for it. It’s horrible sometimes. That’s why it’s so upsetting when it gets trivialised. Fortunately most people are decent and the extremists really are just a small minority of thugs.

skullbabe · 09/09/2023 19:11

Remind me what is it he does for a living now?

He’s an author, executive producer and chief impact officer who in his role as a working member of the Royal Family became patron of WellChild. When he stepped down from these as a working member he was asked to remain as patron.

Maireas · 09/09/2023 19:13

Dear God - no one prosecuted? Didn't they get registration plates? It must have been like being besieged. I bet Jewish people - especially women - were scared to leave the house. Rape threats shouted out like that. Chilling.

themessygarden · 09/09/2023 19:17

@PrincessOfTigger I too am sorry your brother and your community are subjected to such violence. I am ashamed I have never heard about this. Racism in any form is abhorrent, extremist racism is terrifying.

PrincessOfTigger · 09/09/2023 19:23

@themessygarden thank you x

Coronateachingagain · 09/09/2023 19:25

skullbabe · 09/09/2023 19:11

Remind me what is it he does for a living now?

He’s an author, executive producer and chief impact officer who in his role as a working member of the Royal Family became patron of WellChild. When he stepped down from these as a working member he was asked to remain as patron.

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Easy to be an author when you can hire a ghost author to write it all for you. (One of the top ones actually so top dollar for a well written piece)

Same with being a producer - inherited millions can do wonders. (Did you see what one of the Spotify guys said about his production "ideas", as an aside)

Remind me what does he actually do as Chief Impact Officer? Only thing I have seen is yet again lending himself again to do the PR rounds which not sure who benefit the most from.

Maireas · 09/09/2023 19:26

It was shocking, @themessygarden - basically men in cars driving around a Jewish area, issuing death threats to all Jews, and rape threats to the women. No prosecutions.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/09/2023 19:27

Fascinating see the outpouring of support for one poster's experiences, while denigrating black women's experiences.

This place is something else!

Maireas · 09/09/2023 19:28

themessygarden · 09/09/2023 19:17

@PrincessOfTigger I too am sorry your brother and your community are subjected to such violence. I am ashamed I have never heard about this. Racism in any form is abhorrent, extremist racism is terrifying.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/16/police-investigate-video-antisemitic-abuse-shouted-cars-london
This is the link. Arrests, but no one prosecuted.

Four arrests over video ‘showing antisemitic abuse shouted from cars in London’

Boris Johnson and Keir Starmer condemn ‘utterly disgusting’ footage of convoy in St John’s Wood

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/16/police-investigate-video-antisemitic-abuse-shouted-cars-london

themessygarden · 09/09/2023 19:33

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/09/2023 19:27

Fascinating see the outpouring of support for one poster's experiences, while denigrating black women's experiences.

This place is something else!

Thats your perspective on black women being denigrated, it appears to me that seems to be your constant agenda, I don't know how you can come up with that from this particular thread.

There are two of us who feel very sympathetic and horrified atPrincessTiggers experience, I don't think that should be minimised just because she says she is Jewish and not Black.

skullbabe · 09/09/2023 20:04

Coronateachingagain · 09/09/2023 19:25

Easy to be an author when you can hire a ghost author to write it all for you. (One of the top ones actually so top dollar for a well written piece)

Same with being a producer - inherited millions can do wonders. (Did you see what one of the Spotify guys said about his production "ideas", as an aside)

Remind me what does he actually do as Chief Impact Officer? Only thing I have seen is yet again lending himself again to do the PR rounds which not sure who benefit the most from.

You asked what he did. I answered. You may not approve of his jobs but that’s neither here nor there.

LadyKenya · 09/09/2023 20:04

Hmm fascinating. Now posters talking about the racism that they see on here is being classed as an agenda. Honestly it is like the Twilight Zone on here. Just don't bother with it all@MrsMaxDeWinter . I hear you.

skullbabe · 09/09/2023 20:06

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/09/2023 19:27

Fascinating see the outpouring of support for one poster's experiences, while denigrating black women's experiences.

This place is something else!

Seriously - we all see it. Don’t engage.

skullbabe · 09/09/2023 20:10

Agenda - good god almighty sometimes the gaslighting on this place…..

Right off to continue watching the opening of the Games and then the last bit of the Last Night of the Proms (I know I know 🤣)

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