"Heart of Invictus" documentary series, streaming 30 August 2023

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

The trailer for 'Heart of Invictus" has been released by Netflix, and it looks incredible, and so moving.

For those interested, please find it here.

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@Ivyusername

You are throwing around a lot of accusations there @Ivyusername - it would be fair to produce some evidence?

Making millions? Can you show something?

I would also say that without his (seeeming) dedication and visibility Invictus would gone the way of the Common Wealth Games.

But agin - am curious about the breakdown of the money - how many millions are we talking and where is it coming from?

So no evidence of Will donating money at all. It's quite interesting how this rumour got started from a specific crowd.

And either the rota are briefed from the palaces or they're not. Apparently this seems to change every thread depending on who it's about.

Oh dear, I can't imagine being as pathetic as to post such nasty comments on charity videos or their twitters. Or to find it amusing. People who do that are quite vile.

@queentim

no evidence of Will donating money

And either the rota are briefed from the palaces or they're not

Exactly right.

Also no evidence of the millions being made...

No evidence is ever needed. It's enough to just make an insinuation and people will believe it. It's an online 21st century mob mentality. It's quite an insight into the human psyche really.

*believe it and repeat it

Harry's Archewell organisation are Co producers with Netflix of the Invictus games documentary. Therefore the documentary is making money for Archewell and for Netflix and therefore Harry as part of the multi million dollar deal

I don't know the ins and outs of their accounts as you clearly do.
But it seems to me that Archewell is spending money on making the documentary, which is intended to provide increased publicity for the charity and result in increased donations, which is why they're doing it. Of course Netflix will make some money out of it because that is the platform they've chosen to work with.

With all the charities they support IMO they should be creating a documentary for each one - Sentebale, others etc (can't remember all the names). Surely that is a really good use of their time, and Archewell as a production company? But no doubt they'll be criticised for it, because they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

At least they are doing things and not just coasting off the back of taxpayers' money, with holiday after holiday and very little work in between.

Royal reporters saying William donated is not actual evidence of a donation. Other posters have provided actual proof (e.g. Reports).

Meanwhile, you failed to do the same, although you ask for evidence in other threads.

Royal reporters have also retweeted and tweeted about surrogacy and doll babies. Doesn't make them true. Royal reporters also only found out about Will receiving a settlement (which you claim, without evidence, was where the donation came from) when the rest of the world did, through Harry. If they knew this information before Harry stated it in his court filings, they would have reported it.

Much of your posting, especially related to Harry and Meghan are posited as truth, when they are just your opinion, which is fine.

Eden reports that in 2020, the Royal Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge transferred £560,984 (or $1.11 million) to Invictus, the charity that Harry founded to support veterans.

Yes. This was in 2020, when they left the royal foundation Harry was part of, we've already discussed this. The money isn't from William personally so not from any settlement. It was the splitting of the foundation, as Harry was part of it the decision was to transfer some of the funds direct to Invictus. It says it clearly, it was transferred from the charity, the royal foundation, to another charity, Invictus. They also made a transfer to the initial charitable org Harry and Meghan founded, Sussex royal. Its like a divorce where assets are split!

I think a shame about this documentary to be denigrated so much. I honestly thought the Invictus Games was the best thing Harry has done. Now I do think he may have had the idea and others have backed it up - done the work to actually make it work - but he was the figurehead. I think some of the things he said in "Spare" are problematic for veterans and soldiers. So it may be time to get another figurehead.

I do agree though he was not ( whilst in the RF ) making money out of the Invictus Games per se - but the documentary is surely going towards the Netflix contract. I would be amazed and disappointed if he is making money outside of that contract. Given the relatively poor output H&M have had - this must be where they can earn the rest of their $100m / £80m advance over and above the documentary speaking about their life / leaving the RF.

If the Netflix documentary it exclusively about them, then it may be beneficial to the games, but if it becomes about Harry and Meghan (and a fashion show) then they may not last

I think this is the crux of it. Harry had the credibility, and brought over the idea of a new incarnation of the Warrior Games, and got backing from the Royal Foundation (as then was), the wider Royal Family and the MoD. Since then, he has distanced himself from the Royal family and the British establishment, stood up the Marines for the Lion King, went much further than his earlier interviews on his activities in Afghanistan (he'd given a similar interview before he left, but without numbers or allusions to chess pieces) and I think this has eroded his standing. Meghan has no role other than to turn up next to her DH, but there are persistent rumours she will be a speaker, and that is not being welcomed.

And either the rota are briefed from the palaces or they're not. Apparently this seems to change every thread depending on who it's about

They're not. The rota refers to the press pool arrangements, for covering smaller engagements - the ones that might not attract much coverage or are at venues which are too small for a full press pack. It's typically one TV camera operator, one stills photographer and one print reporter, with contributing organisations taking turns in filling the rota. It's not some special in-crowd with additional access or briefings.

Now I do think he may have had the idea

His idea was to transfer the Warrior Games to a further community. He did not create the idea of a veterans' games

Thank you @WinnieTheW0rm and @Ivyusername

Interesting & I clearly didn't know all about it - so thank you .

I do think I am right in that some senior Military people and indeed some of his peers / colleagues / fellow soldiers - not sure how to best describe them - I am not in the army not is DH or close family ) thought his comments in "Spare" were ill advised . I don't know who actually runs and organises the Invictus Games , but sadly I think it would be time to drop Harry. I am sure there would be a number of people who could be a decent figurehead. Not sure who but surely someone.

Given some of the things he has said - the documentary may stick in my craw somewhat. Or indeed it can just do one 😁

& Anyone who thinks Harry is a good poster boy for mental health - well I have no words ( Other opinions are available -& obviously they are but just one opinion )

These are all tabloid gossip sources. i can write that Kate provided 200,000, doesn't make it true. Where another poster provided actual accounting from the royal reports.

Secondly, it's been explained many times that the 'donation' is actually a transfer from the Endeavor fund, which is part of Harry's fundraising, and I think explained in the royal report. So not a donation from Will. So why you keep pushing this lie id beyond me.

This seems very libelous to me, unless again, you have evidence or proof of this. Not opinion.

Much like their Netflix docuseries, and Harry's biography Spare, I don't think the wailing against them will matter so much.

People will watch and listen to whatever they put out - this has been proven many times over.

So we can expect 'Invictus' to perform well, and attract the much deserved attention to military men and women serving and rehabilitating, and donations to the Foundation which will keep the Games running and continue to provide supports for vets.

Really great work, and only 4 days until it drops!

I thought we were stopping with unsubstantiated rumours? I think its unkind to turn this thread into a bashing Harry thread. Its about a really good cause and some really amazing athletes and veterans. Harry is just one part of the team who made this documentary, but the story is about the athletes and all this nasty talk is an insult to them and their hard work. If anyone made this documentary they would make money, its how the world works, that does;t make it a bad thing to do and without someone doing it, these stories wouldn't be told at all. Invictus are joint producers and will benefit enormously.

Unfortunately yes, Harry is double dipping when it comes to making money from Invictus

Again, you have no evidence of any of this and just keep repeating your own thoughts. False tabloid or twitter gossip.

Anyone who thinks Harry is a good poster boy for mental health

I have had mental health issues for a decade now and I find this kind of comment really damaging. Nobody is a 'poster boy' for mental health, the phrase is awful. Harry has helped a lot of people and his story resonates with many who have grown up in difficult families, lost a parent, struggled to process and made mistakes as they have healed. I find it deplorable the way his mental health is used as a stick to beat him with.

I look forward to watching this, and I hope the nastiness around it ends. The intention is of course to try and ruin anything Harry does, but they're hurting way more people and showing themselves to be quite awful in the process.

"'There's more but I got bored. Of course all the news media outlets are lying."

No question of it being boring, but I persevered and read (truthfully, I scanned) all 4 different media provided as evidence of William and Kate donating money to Invictus. Turns out all 4 stories came from the same single source, a Richard Eden of the Daily Mail. The 4 have rehashed and embellished a story from the Daily Mail.

Now, Richard Eden wrote in the original story, that one (unnamed) 'courtier' told him. So this isn't really actual news is it. It's unsubstantiated business as usual, gossip pretending to be news.

I think there are still good and fine journalists writing for legitimate media - but not here, not in this instance.

That's a great post. I agree with all you say. By using this documentary to knock Harry, is actually demeaning and knocking the wonderful brave Invictus service people.