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Nightlystroll · 23/07/2023 17:31

Yes, @FloofCloud , that's what it looked like but that's not what he said in his book.

Serenster · 23/07/2023 17:46

Thelonelygiraffe · 23/07/2023 15:39

How do we know that Harry or William said or felt any of this? It's all hearsay, by an author I've never heard of, and have no idea of her connection - if any - to the RF. nonsense.

Tine Brown was very well connected to Diana’s friends and acquaintances (she was former editor of Tatler magazine in the 1980) and wrote a book about her but that wasn’t thought to be especially revelatory. And she’s lived in the US for most of the last 30 years, so somewhat out of touch with a younger generation you might think? As others have said, she has some very firm views.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 23/07/2023 18:03

I would imagine that, following the death of their mother, William and Harry became a very tight unit - and that Harry has struggled with the changes that have happened as they both became adults, and when William married and had children. It’s not logical or emotionally mature, but maybe he felt abandoned, and that opened the scars left by his mother’s death. He is almost grieving for the relationship they used to have.

But while I can understand how he may be feeling, he is an adult - and an incredibly privileged one to boot - and he has the resources to get the therapy he needs to get over this. But it does look to me as if he is stuck in a bit of a victim mindset, and won’t be able to move on until he accepts that William has a right to have a happy family life with Kate, his children and the in-laws, and that life simply couldn’t stay the same as it was when they were teens, and that he himself has a life that many people would envy - a beautiful wife, two lovely children, a pampered life in a 10 bedroom mansion - and needs to grow up.

Nightlystroll · 23/07/2023 18:46

I think its very clear to everyone that Harry is still stuck at his mother's death. Anderson Cooper, who lost his father at 10, was taken aback at how Harry is still suffering and reliving his mother's death so many years later. I wonder if that's reflected in his day to day life with Meghan. He did say in his book all his drinking and drug-taking and poor behaviour was as a result of his failure of dealing with it. And he acknowledged to Gabor Maté he's still struggling, so I wonder how often it comes up at home. Whether he ever uses it to excuse certain behaviour. Or whether at home, it never comes up because he's happy there.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 23/07/2023 18:49

@MamoruHisaishi does it give you the fanny gallops to spread unsubstantiated gossip? Because not one word in the article is actually attributed to Harry, nor do they claim he actually said anything about the Middletons. The only possible factual quote is from an aide that says Harry felt displaced. Maybe he did ,maybe he didn't.

Everything else is someone's opinion on the Middletons, Harry,William and Kate. Someone who is promoting and trying to sell her "eye opening" book.

FloofCloud · 23/07/2023 19:44

@AngryGreasedSantaCatcus - pretty disgusting terminology Angry!
What's wrong with throwing up an article and discussing? I know there are a few people left on the planet who still think H&M are Disney characters, but the rest of the world are pretty good at seeing through the candyfloss BS

Nightlystroll · 23/07/2023 19:58

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 23/07/2023 18:49

@MamoruHisaishi does it give you the fanny gallops to spread unsubstantiated gossip? Because not one word in the article is actually attributed to Harry, nor do they claim he actually said anything about the Middletons. The only possible factual quote is from an aide that says Harry felt displaced. Maybe he did ,maybe he didn't.

Everything else is someone's opinion on the Middletons, Harry,William and Kate. Someone who is promoting and trying to sell her "eye opening" book.

But isn't that what most biographies are? A story about a person who makes no contribution to the book. Are they all to be dismissed as untrue?

potniatheron · 24/07/2023 09:17

thepriceisrighty · 23/07/2023 13:03

Hate when MN's chip in with these patronising questions. Just eww.

I know! We just wanna gossip right? We understand how do engage in critical thinking when it comes to the media, but we also enjoy light conversation.

There are some posters on these threads who constantly leap in whenever anything is posted about Harry and Meghan that is even slightly less than adoring hagiography. I think they must have some sort of bat signal that goes out wen it's time to leap in and defend their faves.

These same posters tell us not to believe anything we read in the press UNLESS it's stuff put out by Meghan and Harry, or their mouthpiece on earth, Omid Scoobie.

Samcro · 24/07/2023 09:19

so at last its out there. all the 100's of threads and at last someone admits they just want to gossip.

FloofCloud · 24/07/2023 09:19

So true @potniatheron

potniatheron · 24/07/2023 09:24

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shropshirewitch · 24/07/2023 09:27

They are country bumpkins. They don't ride and think Farrow and Ball is the height of sophistication.

Roussette · 24/07/2023 09:32

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No different to a new 'lets knock H&M' thread and posters piling on to think of new ways to insult them!
Works both ways!

I know which side I would prefer to be on and taking the piss out of anyone without the same view as you...to me, that means you want an echo chamber!

potniatheron · 24/07/2023 09:36

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Iwantcakeeveryday · 24/07/2023 09:39

Roussette · 24/07/2023 09:32

No different to a new 'lets knock H&M' thread and posters piling on to think of new ways to insult them!
Works both ways!

I know which side I would prefer to be on and taking the piss out of anyone without the same view as you...to me, that means you want an echo chamber!

I suggest ignoring the goading as MNHQ have asked us to do before, otherwise it descends into arguing and they have more to clean up!

user1492757084 · 24/07/2023 09:52

Harry is a pettty man who adores a woman who has disowned almost her entire family. This is no surprise.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 24/07/2023 09:59

FloofCloud · 23/07/2023 19:44

@AngryGreasedSantaCatcus - pretty disgusting terminology Angry!
What's wrong with throwing up an article and discussing? I know there are a few people left on the planet who still think H&M are Disney characters, but the rest of the world are pretty good at seeing through the candyfloss BS

I've learned on MN Grin.

She's not just "throwing " and article and discussing it. She's repeating things as facts and adds more "facts" of "I read somewhere...". Now there will be more posters going on other threads how they've read somewhere that Harry was brutal about the Middletons and called them country bumpkins. That's how this shit keeps going and going and going.

H&M can and do fuck up perfectly well by themselves, there's no reason to make shit up. But don't let that stand in the way of "discussion ". Confused

potniatheron · 24/07/2023 10:32

He's quite brutal in categorising and judging people, is Harry. He does it loads of time in Spare. The worst one to me was his mocking the disability of the Matron in his boarding school, and being disparaging about her age. I can't abide ableism and am surprised his editor didn't take that part out.

All that to say, it wouldn't surprise me if he was quick to characterise the Middletons as 'infra dig'. God knows they went through it from the tabloid press and didn't one of William's acquaintences also make fun of Kate's mum for having been an air hostess?

FloofCloud · 24/07/2023 11:22

@potniatheron - I think he's bullish and a bully to be honest. I'll never understand why the 'misunderstanding' about racism/unconscious bias took 2 years and the death of Philip and HMQ before it was brought up again. I saw a bit of that interview and he seemed extremely defensive and bullish - I think personally there's two sides to PH and perhaps the unpleasant side is now oozing out of him it's so big.

PollyThePixie · 24/07/2023 11:39

Prince Phillip looks very taken by Harry in the picture in the OP. He looked well loved.

MissAnneLister · 24/07/2023 12:00

user1492757084 · 24/07/2023 09:52

Harry is a pettty man who adores a woman who has disowned almost her entire family. This is no surprise.

She hasn't "disowned" anyone, her dad disowned and ghosted her because she stopped giving him money (before threatening and stalking her and his ex-wife), and she never had a relationship with her child abuser half-sister. She's still close to her mom and mom's family.

This is the problem with royal threads, you can't discuss anything to do with any royal without new usernames (usually following the formula user[random numbers] popping up to repeat lies about Meghan. Why are people so fixated on Meghan hate?

Archeron · 24/07/2023 12:05

Harry is a truly nasty person so I wouldn’t be surprised if he did say those things. William has a lovely wife with a respectable and dedicated family, and Harry is jealous. First because he didn’t have anyone, and later because his awful wife has alienated all of her family and his.

Jongleterre · 24/07/2023 12:09

Harry's 'bored to tears' translates as him being an immature prat who doesn't know how to occupy himself and lacks the intelligence to amuse himself or immerse himself in doing any actual work.

The Middleton family are everything he and his wife are not - loving and supportive.

MissAnneLister · 24/07/2023 12:34

See? Can't mention anything to do with royals without unhinged rantings from all these different usernames about how bad and evil Meghan is, along with the usual lies.

These people are unwell.

askmeonemoretime · 24/07/2023 12:40

This is so obviously made up to detract from Charles large pay rise.