Grifters indeed! Can we have a lift Joe?

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H&M asked if they could have a lift home on AF1 after HMQs funeral.
Environmentally friendly sure, but makes them look grabby and entitled again. Makes for a good story though.

William is involved with ending homelessness, Kate with early years, both of which are government policies, or should be.

They have hired people from the Civil Service, as have Charles and Camilla.

Do they also have political ambitions?

Parental Leave is actually a great thing to speak out about, or you would think so, on Mumsnet. Except when Meghan does it, then parental leave is bad. Both she and Harry spoke out about Roe v Wade. Again an issue you would think would echo with women on Mumsnet. But no, because it's Meghan, it's a bad thing.

They were the first members of the royal family to support Ukraine publicly, and got slammed for it. But it's okay that all other members of the royal family do so now.

It's actually pathetic.

I don't not like her because of her colour. I don't like her because of the way she has conducted herself in public with her family (who are no better) and because she appears to be a massive fucking grifter.

Is that allowed? Am I allowed my own opinion? Please do let me know if not. 🙄

Yes it is. Don;t tell poc when our race is or isn't relevant. Meghan was subject to racism. Its not a leap to suggest people disliking her at first sight did so because of her race, plenty of people did and to pretend they didn't is enabling their racism.

Well said. Absolutely this.

IF this is true, then the only reason I can think that the Bidens said No for was maybe a security issue ( posh people speak for "sorry, can't help it's 'ealth n safety")

If not that, then seems pretty mean to say no

What do I mean by tone?

Fading facts, contradicting each other, talking over each other, controlling each other's utterances.

There was a very interesting moment when they were asked about how Megan would feel about giving up her career as an actor to be part of the RF. M did a micro-expression of uncertainty and started to answer and then H cut in to say she'd become a working Royal and would be great at it. Not giving M a chance to make her own answer!

So, they did not seem aligned in terms of their future plans. I think this is a bad sign for any engaged couple. But with moment in particular was really telling to me.

When she met H, M was a self-made woman who'd made her way up from being a regular girl to, with a little help from Thomas Markel, breaking into showbiz and making a living from it. She also showed entrepreneurial spirit with The Tig - I personally dislike that hyper-capitalist choice feminism stuff, but lots of people did like it I guess. So she's been able to forge her own path, whereas H never had to.

If I was M and had to sit silent whilst my overprivileged lazy DH to be told the world what my path post marriage was gonna be, I'd be pisseddddd offff.

So at that point, I felt that she wouldn't want to put up with the bullshit long term. Five years max.

It reads like they spoke to US officials rather than the Bidens so they must have done that in advance. They won't have known the Biden's plans at that time. I can see them doing it because Harry seems to bum lifts quite a lot. He's probably been used to doing it all his life. I bet not a lot of people turn down a prince. They also seem to borrow other peoples houses a lot, too. And imagine the optics. Waving from the steps of Airforce 1. 👋 👋

Sounds like that guy from Spotify might have known what he was talking about. 😄

When she met H, M was a self-made woman who'd made her way up from being a regular girl to, with a little help from Thomas Markel, breaking into showbiz and making a living from it.

What do you mean "with a little help from Thomas Markle*?

He paid for her education, as many fathers pay for their children's education?

Are you saying that her success as an adult is owed entirely to that childhood support from her father, and nothing to do with her own work?

If so, why were Samantha and Thomas Junior not as successful, given they have the same father? Samantha especially took on minor acting roles in her 20s.

Why didn't Thomas Markle's magic extent to her?

What does race have to do with H and M allegedly asking the Bidens for a lift ??

@Millicentsparty

So agree

But the Markles wouldn't have known the Bidens schedule ahead of time - that's an issue of national security - so it doesn't mean they didn't ask. I mean, what a fucking coup that would've been for them if the President had said yes! And I bet they'd have ditched QEII's burial for a ride in AF1 and the resulting publicity. Just imagine how that would've looked for them! Walking up the steps to AF1, tacit support/endorsement from no less than the President of the US.

What do you mean "with a little help from Thomas Markle?*

It's amazingly common how many actors and singers have relatives already in the business. Even if not that influential, they still have contacts who can advise or mention your name.

We were responding to a post left here about dissing her on sight. but you know that.

You do know, surely, that threads meander and when someone posts about a sweepstake on the end of the marriage they joined from watching the engagement interview, people are going to ask why.

If I posted what you have just done here, I would be called the thread police.

Totally. So M spending time with her dad on set would’ve absolutely helped her understand the business and also given her contacts.

Showbiz is an incredibly nepotistic arena and you definitely need contacts. However you also need talent and a work ethic to then be successful, which M clearly has. I don’t think H has anywhere near the same work ethic, or any work ethic at all really. I think that probably really irritates M, so now she is making moves by herself.

The Netflix cameras would have loved a photo of them climbing the steps with the Biden’s

I think it's entirely possible the story is true bearing in mind Harold has been used to having official transport laid on for him from birth and without question.

Why then was Thomas Markle's other daughter Samantha, who started life as an aspiring actress, not as successful in that field?

This is all part of the narrative that Meghan owes her success to others, not to herself. If her father was really that influential, surely her sister would have benefitted too.

Incidentally, why didn't Thomas pay for college for his two other children?

I don’t think H has anywhere near the same work ethic, or any work ethic at all really.

He was in the army.

And Samantha, who started out her adult life as an actress?

Why didn't Thomas' magic work for her too?

These threads are like catnip.

I agree if there is any truth in this, then the request must have been made before the start of the funeral, and H&M would not have known that hitching a ride would have meant missing the private family ceremony.

The President's timings are not publicised, so they couldn't have known so may well have thought it may be possible.

But this whole idea just doesn't ring true to me. So I expect a denial shortly (now they've started down the route of responding to the press, adverse inference will be drawn on issues where they do not)

And Thomas Jr. who was given money to buy a business but lost that. All he seems to do is go on reality shows to slag Meghan off, like Big Brother in Oz, and do blackface on youtube. Shocking.

I think Thomas lottery win paid the college fees but I’m not sure on timelines. It does seem like Meghan got more from her dad growing yup then the elder two got and maybe this is part of the resentment towards her.

Ah the old trick of calling people racist just because they don't agree with you. Why are you presuming to put words into others' mouths when you don't like it happening to you?