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MrsMaxDeWinter · 23/06/2023 07:55

This is a horrible thought experiment and you should be ashamed of posting this.

Could people please leave the kids alone!

BadgerB · 23/06/2023 08:02

MrsMaxDeWinter · Today 07:55
This is a horrible thought experiment and you should be ashamed of posting this.

Could people please leave the kids alone!

Why on earth should I be ashamed? I've said nothing about ANY kids - Sussex or Wales. Just a hypothetical "baby".

But you can no doubt get me deleted....

MarcelProust · 23/06/2023 08:14

SoTedious · 22/06/2023 22:49

I guess the difference is that the representation of Meghan and Harry's parenting that we have has been (quite rightly) entirely curated by them. Whereas the Wales children do appear at public events where the parents have less control of what people see. So we have seen a little bit of them parenting in the wild iykwim.

As if the Wales is not entirely curated by the palace. Probably more so, than the Sussexes.
We see them on selected pics to school and that corny Boden like footage by the sea.

Come on, George was wearing a suit to go to a football match at 8yrs old?

I’m sure the Sussex children are very much loved but they’re living in a very dysfunctional family. They only know one grandparent. They don’t have any relationship with either of their grandfathers or their Uncle and Aunt or any of their cousins.

First time I hear a family with both parents present, living together described as dysfunctional. Nan seems to be around a lot and grangran passed away, unfortunately.

They don't have much to do with the grandparents, but so what, some people don't have living grandparents, so I would hardly call them dysfunctional. We do know they see aunt Eugenie, who knows who else they see or zoom. Lots of people move country and just live with and see their immediate family only.

skullbabe · 23/06/2023 08:16

😬SMH - wow!

BadgerB · 23/06/2023 08:25

MarcelProust · Today 08:14
First time I hear a family with both parents present, living together described as dysfunctional.

It's easily possible for a two parent, isolated, family to be dysfunctional. Sometimes the problem is only discovered when the child starts school and outsiders see it.
N.B. This is NOT aimed at the Sussexes or indeed any particular family

BadgerB · 23/06/2023 08:29

MarcelProust · Today 08:14
As if the Wales is not entirely curated by the palace. Probably more so, than the Sussexes.
We see them on selected pics to school and that corny Boden like footage by the sea.
Come on, George was wearing a suit to go to a football match at 8yrs old?

And you're the one whose mantra is "leave the kids alone", "you should be ashamed"?
Do I have that right?

MarcelProust · 23/06/2023 08:30

BadgerB · 23/06/2023 08:29

MarcelProust · Today 08:14
As if the Wales is not entirely curated by the palace. Probably more so, than the Sussexes.
We see them on selected pics to school and that corny Boden like footage by the sea.
Come on, George was wearing a suit to go to a football match at 8yrs old?

And you're the one whose mantra is "leave the kids alone", "you should be ashamed"?
Do I have that right?

Think you have me mistaken for another poster.

It's just right here, go have a look again.

BadgerB · 23/06/2023 08:39

MarcelProust · Today 08:30

Very sorry, that should have been. -

Iwantcakeeveryday · Today 07:34 and MrsMaxDeWinter · Today 07:55

Must stop trying to do several things at once

MrsMaxDeWinter · 23/06/2023 08:45

This whole "dysfunctional family" is part of the underhand narrative that Harry's real family is in the UK, and Meghan and their kids, the people he actually loves, lives with and has upended his life for, are not his real family.

According to this view, Harry's family consists of a father who won't take his calls, a step-mother who was the third person in his parents' marriage, and a brother who has his own wife and children.

Even Harry's cousins are considered to be more "real family" for Harry than Meghan and his own kids.

And of course William and Kate are lauded for prioritising their kids over royal engagements because they are putting their own family first.

But Harry, oh its different for Harry. Meghan and the kids are not his real family you see. He should leave them all in Montecito and return to his royal duties, and be with his "real" family! Because the most important thing is for him to wave to the crowds on the balcony with his real family!! And of course a remote grandfather who won't take his son's calls is a MUCH more important figure in two children's life than the loving father and mother the children actually live with!

SoTedious · 23/06/2023 08:49

As if the Wales is not entirely curated by the palace. Probably more so, than the Sussexes.

I don't see how this can be true when the Wales children appear in public and the Sussexes don't. Do you think when one of the Wales children is cheeky or yawns during an important moment, that's curated by the palace?

BadgerB · 23/06/2023 08:50

MrsMaxDeWinter · Today 08:45
He should leave them all in Montecito and return to his royal duties, and be with his "real" family!

I would NEVER suggest this. Even if Meghan moves on to a richer and more intelligent partner I would hope they can have equal access to the children.

SoTedious · 23/06/2023 08:52

MrsMaxDeWinter · 23/06/2023 08:45

This whole "dysfunctional family" is part of the underhand narrative that Harry's real family is in the UK, and Meghan and their kids, the people he actually loves, lives with and has upended his life for, are not his real family.

According to this view, Harry's family consists of a father who won't take his calls, a step-mother who was the third person in his parents' marriage, and a brother who has his own wife and children.

Even Harry's cousins are considered to be more "real family" for Harry than Meghan and his own kids.

And of course William and Kate are lauded for prioritising their kids over royal engagements because they are putting their own family first.

But Harry, oh its different for Harry. Meghan and the kids are not his real family you see. He should leave them all in Montecito and return to his royal duties, and be with his "real" family! Because the most important thing is for him to wave to the crowds on the balcony with his real family!! And of course a remote grandfather who won't take his son's calls is a MUCH more important figure in two children's life than the loving father and mother the children actually live with!

I'm not sure where you are getting this from but blimey that's a lot of stuff you've got going on in your head.

tigger2022 · 23/06/2023 08:52

I don’t think the number of members makes a family dysfunctional. My family is just me and ds, the Dream Team. Harry himself seems quite toxic but Meghan has it together and they have nannies too.

Ninaplant · 23/06/2023 09:12

MarcelProust · 23/06/2023 08:14

As if the Wales is not entirely curated by the palace. Probably more so, than the Sussexes.
We see them on selected pics to school and that corny Boden like footage by the sea.

Come on, George was wearing a suit to go to a football match at 8yrs old?

I’m sure the Sussex children are very much loved but they’re living in a very dysfunctional family. They only know one grandparent. They don’t have any relationship with either of their grandfathers or their Uncle and Aunt or any of their cousins.

First time I hear a family with both parents present, living together described as dysfunctional. Nan seems to be around a lot and grangran passed away, unfortunately.

They don't have much to do with the grandparents, but so what, some people don't have living grandparents, so I would hardly call them dysfunctional. We do know they see aunt Eugenie, who knows who else they see or zoom. Lots of people move country and just live with and see their immediate family only.

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We also know that the Sussexes are close to Princess Diana’s side of the family, who recently made the effort to attend Lily‘s christening and uncle Charles Spencer who used his social media platforms to publicly defend his nephew from the tabloids (something his father and brother have repeatedly failed to do). Harry mentions them in his acknowledgments at the end of Spare:

‘Stand out thanks to my mother’s siblings for their love, support, time and perspective.’

He is also very close to his cousins from his mother’s side of the family. We often forget the RF aren’t his only relatives!

Meghan’s nieces and nephews have also publicly defended their aunt and have spoken out against their grandfather, mother and fathers’ appalling behaviour. It is also worth noting Thomas Markle is not in contact with any of his grandchildren and Samantha and Thomas Jr have no relationship with their own children! That tells me everything I need to know about the toxic trio.

The anti Harry and Meghan propaganda has really done a number on those that have fallen for the false narrative pushed by tabloids and television shows.

Ninaplant · 23/06/2023 09:15

MrsMaxDeWinter · 23/06/2023 08:45

This whole "dysfunctional family" is part of the underhand narrative that Harry's real family is in the UK, and Meghan and their kids, the people he actually loves, lives with and has upended his life for, are not his real family.

According to this view, Harry's family consists of a father who won't take his calls, a step-mother who was the third person in his parents' marriage, and a brother who has his own wife and children.

Even Harry's cousins are considered to be more "real family" for Harry than Meghan and his own kids.

And of course William and Kate are lauded for prioritising their kids over royal engagements because they are putting their own family first.

But Harry, oh its different for Harry. Meghan and the kids are not his real family you see. He should leave them all in Montecito and return to his royal duties, and be with his "real" family! Because the most important thing is for him to wave to the crowds on the balcony with his real family!! And of course a remote grandfather who won't take his son's calls is a MUCH more important figure in two children's life than the loving father and mother the children actually live with!

I couldn’t agree more.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 23/06/2023 09:19

MrsMaxDeWinter · 23/06/2023 08:45

This whole "dysfunctional family" is part of the underhand narrative that Harry's real family is in the UK, and Meghan and their kids, the people he actually loves, lives with and has upended his life for, are not his real family.

According to this view, Harry's family consists of a father who won't take his calls, a step-mother who was the third person in his parents' marriage, and a brother who has his own wife and children.

Even Harry's cousins are considered to be more "real family" for Harry than Meghan and his own kids.

And of course William and Kate are lauded for prioritising their kids over royal engagements because they are putting their own family first.

But Harry, oh its different for Harry. Meghan and the kids are not his real family you see. He should leave them all in Montecito and return to his royal duties, and be with his "real" family! Because the most important thing is for him to wave to the crowds on the balcony with his real family!! And of course a remote grandfather who won't take his son's calls is a MUCH more important figure in two children's life than the loving father and mother the children actually live with!

This is so unbelievably accurate!

MarcelProust · 23/06/2023 09:19

Oh yes, Nina.

I forgot that Diana 'sisters were with the couple for Archie christening and were also there for the Diana statue unveiling.

And yes, Charles Spencer was pissed off by some reporter talking cap about Harry.

Was it the Spencer's who allowed Harry and Meghan to go to Diana's grave?

I think they safeguarded the boys inheritance from Diana ?

MarcelProust · 23/06/2023 09:21

MrsMaxDeWinter · 23/06/2023 08:45

This whole "dysfunctional family" is part of the underhand narrative that Harry's real family is in the UK, and Meghan and their kids, the people he actually loves, lives with and has upended his life for, are not his real family.

According to this view, Harry's family consists of a father who won't take his calls, a step-mother who was the third person in his parents' marriage, and a brother who has his own wife and children.

Even Harry's cousins are considered to be more "real family" for Harry than Meghan and his own kids.

And of course William and Kate are lauded for prioritising their kids over royal engagements because they are putting their own family first.

But Harry, oh its different for Harry. Meghan and the kids are not his real family you see. He should leave them all in Montecito and return to his royal duties, and be with his "real" family! Because the most important thing is for him to wave to the crowds on the balcony with his real family!! And of course a remote grandfather who won't take his son's calls is a MUCH more important figure in two children's life than the loving father and mother the children actually live with!

Yep.

Also lots of articles about how Harry must come back alone and he will be welcomed with open arms.

Every blame lobbed at Meghan. You have to be suspicious.

tigger2022 · 23/06/2023 09:24

MarcelProust · 23/06/2023 09:19

Oh yes, Nina.

I forgot that Diana 'sisters were with the couple for Archie christening and were also there for the Diana statue unveiling.

And yes, Charles Spencer was pissed off by some reporter talking cap about Harry.

Was it the Spencer's who allowed Harry and Meghan to go to Diana's grave?

I think they safeguarded the boys inheritance from Diana ?

Tbh Charles Spencer is problematic for all kinds of reasons but her sisters seem lovely

Ninaplant · 23/06/2023 09:54

MarcelProust · 23/06/2023 09:19

Oh yes, Nina.

I forgot that Diana 'sisters were with the couple for Archie christening and were also there for the Diana statue unveiling.

And yes, Charles Spencer was pissed off by some reporter talking cap about Harry.

Was it the Spencer's who allowed Harry and Meghan to go to Diana's grave?

I think they safeguarded the boys inheritance from Diana ?

Yes, Charles Spencer was also the one who disinvited all tabloid editors from his sister’s funeral after Prince Charles had the nerve to invite them. I remember thinking at the time what a lousy father, inviting those that hunted harassed and slandered their mother to her actual funeral! They made her life such a misery, a 12 year old child convinced himself to adulthood that his mother hadn’t really died and that she was actually in hiding from the press and the paps. Charles’ desperation to gain favour with the tabloids at the expense of his children was in my opinion, selfish and unbecoming of a father.

It saddens me that Charles, Camilla and William have allowed these same men back into the Royal fold, after her death.

It goes the to show the power the tabloids have over the most powerful family in the UK, and how fearful they are of falling out of favour with the press.

SaxSick · 23/06/2023 10:45

MrsMaxDeWinter · 23/06/2023 05:52

@skullbabe

😃

It's the Wales kids who are going to have a normal life, don't you know.

Because for the Sussex kids, NOT living in a Royal Household surrounded by security and courtiers calling them and their parents HRH every minute of the day with nothing even remotely resembling a normal life is not going to prepare them well for the world.

Maybe this is why Harry struggles with living in the world ?

SaxSick · 23/06/2023 10:50

MrsMaxDeWinter · 23/06/2023 07:55

This is a horrible thought experiment and you should be ashamed of posting this.

Could people please leave the kids alone!

but you were talking about the other children just on the last page.... are you allowed to have your say on the children but others aren't? I'm confused here.

"It's the Wales kids who are going to have anormal life, don't you know.

Because for the Sussex kids, NOT living in a Royal Household surrounded by security and courtiers calling them and their parents HRH every minute of the day with nothing even remotely resembling a normal life is not going to prepare them well for the world. "

SaxSick · 23/06/2023 10:53

MrsMaxDeWinter · 23/06/2023 08:45

This whole "dysfunctional family" is part of the underhand narrative that Harry's real family is in the UK, and Meghan and their kids, the people he actually loves, lives with and has upended his life for, are not his real family.

According to this view, Harry's family consists of a father who won't take his calls, a step-mother who was the third person in his parents' marriage, and a brother who has his own wife and children.

Even Harry's cousins are considered to be more "real family" for Harry than Meghan and his own kids.

And of course William and Kate are lauded for prioritising their kids over royal engagements because they are putting their own family first.

But Harry, oh its different for Harry. Meghan and the kids are not his real family you see. He should leave them all in Montecito and return to his royal duties, and be with his "real" family! Because the most important thing is for him to wave to the crowds on the balcony with his real family!! And of course a remote grandfather who won't take his son's calls is a MUCH more important figure in two children's life than the loving father and mother the children actually live with!

I guess that's why it is important for the Sussexes to have contact with M's family in the USA.

EdithWeston · 23/06/2023 11:24

Come on, George was wearing a suit to go to a football match at 8yrs old?

Only because he was in the VIP box for a special occasion where that's the dress code. He's in chinos/polo shirt on the odd occasion pix have been published following attendance in other areas

BadgerB · 23/06/2023 11:50

Charles Spencer was also the one who disinvited all tabloid editors from his sister’s funeral after Prince Charles had the nerve to invite them.

Yes, and I was very impressed and cheered when he gave that sermon/eulogy about how her "birth family" would look after her children.
Then he disappeared to S Africa and didn't come back until several wives later