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Harry - what next?

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TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 12:51

Continuation thread for all things Harry, Meghan and all things Archewell.

welcome back everyone!

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Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 21:11

Gracewithoutend · 16/06/2023 21:01

Aw, I think she's pretty. And I don't know what the royals put in the water at BP, but she definitely got prettier after getting married. Maybe it's the luurrrve!

Her skin glows & she’s radiant, and her smile stands out. Some photographer said it’s the smile which makes her stand out from crowd, I’d add warmth, sparkling eyes & charisma.

Elior · 16/06/2023 21:12

Rory McIlroy (her golfer ex boyfriend whose chambermaid saw her trotting out of his bedroom one morning) seems to have a lot more accessible wealth than Harry. Infact Ashley Cole's wealth was also self-earned and may have been to her liking so she did attract some wealthy men pre-Harry. Could she do it now? Maybe an older wealthy guy.

Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 21:16

Elior · 16/06/2023 21:12

Rory McIlroy (her golfer ex boyfriend whose chambermaid saw her trotting out of his bedroom one morning) seems to have a lot more accessible wealth than Harry. Infact Ashley Cole's wealth was also self-earned and may have been to her liking so she did attract some wealthy men pre-Harry. Could she do it now? Maybe an older wealthy guy.

Maybe Rory wasn’t interested in an LTR? Form? & H def was, all about the timing in relationships too. I imagine Rory had more ‘choice’ than H (?)

mirages08 · 16/06/2023 21:16

They will be the 21st century Duke and duchess of Windsor imho

An embarrassment, desperately trying to remain relevant

Gracewithoutend · 16/06/2023 21:18

Elior · 16/06/2023 21:12

Rory McIlroy (her golfer ex boyfriend whose chambermaid saw her trotting out of his bedroom one morning) seems to have a lot more accessible wealth than Harry. Infact Ashley Cole's wealth was also self-earned and may have been to her liking so she did attract some wealthy men pre-Harry. Could she do it now? Maybe an older wealthy guy.

Rupert Murdoch's free. 😄

Elior · 16/06/2023 21:20

Gracewithoutend · 16/06/2023 21:18

Rupert Murdoch's free. 😄

😃Now that is naughty!

Howsimplywonderful · 16/06/2023 21:24

Gordon Getty is pretty much a kingmaker for Democratic nominations in California, and Meghan has allegedly been having meetings as Dianne Feinstein is supposedly retiring

Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 21:41

Howsimplywonderful · 16/06/2023 21:24

Gordon Getty is pretty much a kingmaker for Democratic nominations in California, and Meghan has allegedly been having meetings as Dianne Feinstein is supposedly retiring

Good for her, what are her long term presidential chances?

ParklifePenguin · 16/06/2023 21:42

Surely using a title would count against her in the USA?

Gracewithoutend · 16/06/2023 21:48

Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 21:41

Good for her, what are her long term presidential chances?

Before Donald Trump, I'd have said zilch. But now.... 😂

StartupRepair · 16/06/2023 22:33

I think the problem is they believe the crowds they drew as royals were a sign that they really are specially gifted. This is not actually true. The crowds in Australia were there because of affection for Harry (or the image that had been curated for him) and curiosity about his wife. They weren't there because of Meghan's innate talent or insight.
I can't think of a single job I would employ them for.
This whole thing has been a masterclass from the royals in playing the long game and allowing H and M enough rope to experience their own limitations.

StartupRepair · 16/06/2023 22:37

I think Harry could have healed from his clearly traumatic and damaging childhood by living quietly in the country, focused on family, retaining his oldest politically incorrect friends, and throwing himself into charities behind the scenes. Going to fake awards events and toying with paparazzi and agonising over every word appearing in the press is not a happy way to live.

Nono22972 · 16/06/2023 22:39

I think the problem is they believe the crowds they drew as royals were a sign that they really are specially gifted. This is not actually true. The crowds in Australia were there because of affection for Harry (or the image that had been curated for him) and curiosity about his wife. They weren't there because of Meghan's innate talent or insight.

  • *So true @StartupRepair. I also think these two confused Royalty with celebrity. The attention you're getting as a royal is not because of you but because of your position. You are nothing more than an ambassador for the UK and the monarchy.

As Prince Philip once said: “It’s a big mistake to think about yourself. No one is interested in you in the long run. Don’t court popularity. It doesn’t last. Remember that the attention comes because of the position you are privileged to hold, not because of who you are. If you think it’s all about you, you’ll never be happy.”

Gracewithoutend · 16/06/2023 22:47

Nono22972 · 16/06/2023 22:39

I think the problem is they believe the crowds they drew as royals were a sign that they really are specially gifted. This is not actually true. The crowds in Australia were there because of affection for Harry (or the image that had been curated for him) and curiosity about his wife. They weren't there because of Meghan's innate talent or insight.

  • *So true @StartupRepair. I also think these two confused Royalty with celebrity. The attention you're getting as a royal is not because of you but because of your position. You are nothing more than an ambassador for the UK and the monarchy.

As Prince Philip once said: “It’s a big mistake to think about yourself. No one is interested in you in the long run. Don’t court popularity. It doesn’t last. Remember that the attention comes because of the position you are privileged to hold, not because of who you are. If you think it’s all about you, you’ll never be happy.”

How funny. This s what Bill Simmons, an exec at Spotify, wrote about Harry last January. I winder if he'd ever talked to Prince Philip?

Simmons did not hold his tongue about the royal couple even during the time they were under contract with Spotify. Last January, he blasted Prince Harry, saying it was “embarrassing” to be affiliated with the same company.
“Shoot this guy to the sun,” Simmons groused, according to the Big Lead post. “I’m so tired of this guy. What does he bring to the table? He just whines about sh-t and keeps giving interviews. Who gives a sh-t? Who cares about your life? You weren’t even the favorite son. … You live in f-cking Montecito and you just sell documentaries and podcasts and nobody cares what you have to say about anything unless you talk about the royal family and you just complain about them.”

Radyward · 16/06/2023 22:53

I am beginning to think They are in a sort of an ivory montecito mansion prison.what are they doing all day 6m dollar bills are mounting. his whole having to borrow money from M to buy ikea furniture story doesnt add up to being wealthy ( although He clearly is) then there was cracks in the marriage a few weeks ago.
They are trapped in montecito do they return cap in hand to KC. i think the half in half out was the ideal for them and they flounced off thinkimng how popular they were would carry them but no no one is bigger than the RF.
Them the NYC car chase that wasnt. they appear deranged. they have lost the public

Radyward · 16/06/2023 23:07

I also think in her head she created this story for the media which was akin to a romcom which was totally unbelievable. American actress meets a prince falls in love. didnt know who he was. no idea he was so famous. the roast chicken dinner proposal ( 2 different proposal stories btw) i mean no one would swallow this when she holidayed in windsor some yrs earlier.

Nono22972 · 16/06/2023 23:24

Simmons did not hold his tongue about the royal couple even during the time they were under contract with Spotify. Last January, he blasted Prince Harry, saying it was “embarrassing” to be affiliated with the same company.

“Shoot this guy to the sun,” Simmons groused, according to the Big Lead post. “I’m so tired of this guy. What does he bring to the table? He just whines about sh-t and keeps giving interviews. Who gives a sh-t? Who cares about your life? You weren’t even the favorite son. … You live in f-cking Montecito and you just sell documentaries and podcasts and nobody cares what you have to say about anything unless you talk about the royal family and you just complain about them.”

OUCH!

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 23:31

Loving the stories about meeting Princess Anne

now, there is a royal who had really bad press for years because she refused to conform to the ideal of a fairytale princess.

did she complain? Nope, she just got on with her hard work, both as a member of the royal family and as an elite equestrian. riding is the only sport where men and women compete on the same level.

during COVID we saw the lovely relationship between Anne and the Queen. And I will never forget how she stayed close to her mother all down from Aberdeen to Edinburgh, a long journey with crowds lining the roads and looking at her. So stoic. so dignified.

Harry should take a good long look at his Aunt and take several leaves out of her book.

the second child of a monarch, she’s never seemed bitter.

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TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 23:36

QueenOfHertz · 16/06/2023 20:06

He wouldn’t be the first in the family to divorcez

divorce happens.

i don’t imagine anyone getting married thinks that they will fall out of love with their partner and get divorced. But it happens. Every single day.

both Meghan and Harry had parents who divorced. Meghan has been married before.

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cassiatwenty · 16/06/2023 23:40

Harry - Sun in Virgo and Moon in Taurus, so on paper it seems like we'd get on

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 23:51

Howsimplywonderful · 16/06/2023 21:24

Gordon Getty is pretty much a kingmaker for Democratic nominations in California, and Meghan has allegedly been having meetings as Dianne Feinstein is supposedly retiring

At first glance I read that as “Gordon Gecko”

”greed is good” was his catchphrase

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TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 23:56

What are they doing for Invictus at present?

Harry was at the US Wounded Warrior Games, which started in 2010. Im guessing he modelled Invictus Games on WW?

But - those cruel remarks in Spare about the matrons disability, combined with a total lack of adult reflection on how nasty he was, may make things rather tricky for him.

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MissTrip82 · 17/06/2023 03:36

Gracewithoutend · 16/06/2023 20:52

Because they've made such a big play of how they rescued each other and how much they love each other. How he gave up his family and country for her. There are so many people, including his family, that said you're going too quickly, take your time, make sure she's the right one. But he had a go at his brother for saying it. As I recall, he accused William of not wanting him to be happy. Of how jealous the whole RF were of her because she's so much better than them at being royal.
It would be too embarrassing for him to get divorced. Never going to happen.

This is just so fundamentally nasty. So mean-spirited. About strangers.

I do not understand why there are people so invested in a stranger’s marriage that they’ll insist either it’s about to end, or it will never end but only because it’s so rotten.

have a word with yourself. This can’t be who you want to be. So thrilled at someone’s misfortune you’ll wish it into being no matter what.

Gracewithoutend · 17/06/2023 04:58

MissTrip82 · 17/06/2023 03:36

This is just so fundamentally nasty. So mean-spirited. About strangers.

I do not understand why there are people so invested in a stranger’s marriage that they’ll insist either it’s about to end, or it will never end but only because it’s so rotten.

have a word with yourself. This can’t be who you want to be. So thrilled at someone’s misfortune you’ll wish it into being no matter what.

Seriously. Have a think and a read before you start lashing out at people. If you read my posts, youll see that I've said that he loves her, that I get cross when people say she only married him for the status when it's clear she loved him, and I hope they stay together and are happy.
How is any of that nasty? It seems to me that you have a narrative in your head that if anyone posts about Harry and Meghan, it must be with malice. When I've been more than clear that I, 100% , believe they're in love and they won't split up.

Another poster asked why I thought they'd never divorce and I replied that I believed they'd find it difficult to divorce for the above reasons. I still believe that's true. But I've been clear that I don't believe they'll divorce.

Here's what I've said about their marriage. All on page 6...

Aw, I don't want them to divorce. I want them to be happy. Not because of them, they're adults and are responsible for their actions, but because of their children. I want them to grown up in a secure, loving home.
And anyway, it's clear he's genuinely in love with her. As she was with him when they married. At this point, though, I've no idea what her feelings about him are. He must be a bit of a nightmare. But I do hope they're just happy together.

But I don't see that on the cards. She seems to find him funny still so I'd say they're pretty solid.

I guess all these things play into attractions but they've been together for a while and he still seems smitten. I'm betting on them staying together and just being a normal couple with normal ups and downs.

I dont see how anyone seeing them together at their wedding could think she didn't love him. It makes me a bit cross when people say she only married him because of who he was. I mean did that sweeten the pot? I'd say so. It would me. And she does love a title. Would she have gone to Africa in a tent alone with someone if he hadn't been a prince? She doesn't seem to be mentally impaired, so I'd say no. Did she put up with more shit early on than she would from another guy? Probably.
But she still loved him. No one will convince me otherwise. 💏

Aw, I think she's pretty. And I don't know what the royals put in the water at BP, but she definitely got prettier after getting married. Maybe it's the luurrrve!

AmIbeingTreasonable · 17/06/2023 05:09

They were told to leave imo and now the chickens are coming home to roost!

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