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The royal family

Harry - what next?

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TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 12:51

Continuation thread for all things Harry, Meghan and all things Archewell.

welcome back everyone!

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TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 14:41

Wheresthebeach · 16/06/2023 13:53

I think Harry felt he was so much more popular than William, plus he had a modern wife, that they would sort of take over the lead role while W&K did all the dull work shaking hands and cutting ribbons.

That’s a very good point.

George VI was always much quieter than his brother. But it was his steadfast work that won him the love of the country, not showiness

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TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 14:43

Which brings us straight back to the question of WHY they wouldn't want to escape completely from an institution which allegedly nearly drove Meghan to suicide
Funny how this has been mentioned so often but never addressed

how very true. I wonder why no reporter has ever ventured there.

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maranella · 16/06/2023 14:44

and this made me think - we’ve all heard the stories about how Harry was her favourite. And that is something I could never imagine the Queen saying. Ever. At all. As a young woman, her father said “Elizabeth is my pride, but Margaret is my joy”. And that must have hurt. Why would she favour Harry above all her other GC? Just look back to the time when Peter Philips was born - her first GC and she clearly adored him. Why would she raise Harry above everyone else?

Even if he was, Andrew was apparently her favourite DC, and that didn't exactly show that she had the best judgement in matters of favouritsm!

BoohooWoohoo · 16/06/2023 14:45

Princess Mako left the Japanese royal family and ditched her title.

She lives with her husband in a 2 bed apartment in NYC. Iirc he's working as a paralegal while studying for the NY bar while she's using her art degree as an unpaid intern at a big art museum. They are living off his wage.

I realise that Harry's skills are more limited than Meghan's but any work with veterans would be highly respected as long as it wasn't done for the sake of Netflix type content. BP created a public image for him where he'd be popular as an advocate for children, wildlife, veterans...

I guess we know less about Meghan's ideal roles. Politics is frequently brought up but having Harry as a spouse is probably more of a hindrance these days.

jeffgoldblum · 16/06/2023 14:45

To be fair @TrashyPanda , we've only heard this from Harry , I doubt very much it was true .

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 14:49

In the book, he says their security is $6M a year

remember this is in USA, where people routinely have firearms. That makes the risk much higher. And that puts the cost up.

they have chosen to buy a huge estate - the bigger the grounds, the more security measures you need to put in place.

Harry clearly believes he needs 24 hr security, 365 days of the year.
but essentially, his position is the same as Princess Anne (who actually was the target of a kidnapping attempt that went wrong) who has security when performing royal duties and manages just fine the rest of the time. And is widely admired for being a hard-working, no nonsense woman.

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maranella · 16/06/2023 14:51

@TrashyPanda since admitting to killing 25 Taliban and as a former soldier Harry is probably more of a target than Anne is. If only all royals were like Anne - unpretentious, un-stuffy, hard-working, no-nonsense, private, loyal and practical.

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 14:52

They’re both relatively young, and presumably want to be doing something with their days
I think having a regular job, where he was kept busy and mixed with lots of people would do Harry and his mental health a world of good. An aimless life doesn’t seem to make him happy.

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Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 14:53

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 14:40

I suppose the first warning shot from HMQEII was “tiara-gate” and her response when Harry said “what Meghan wants, Meghan gets”

and the fact that Beatrice and Eugenia got much fancier tiaras. With Beatrice wearing the tiara her granny had worn on her wedding day.

@MadamWhiteleigh factually if their security really is around 3 million GBP then very likely their ‘running costs’ will be 10-20 mil PA. Poss north of that. More then I’d imagined, even with income streams, it’s not going to finance a billionaire lifestyle for more than a few years. Especially as allegedly they want to upgrade the house & life.

Someone mentioned the ‘Prodigal son’, I do think he can poss get funding from his father , or get ‘topped up’. A caveat might be what Camilla thinks. William would be more intransigent I think. They need a sincere project & goal and be incredibly grateful for what they have? Is this the life for H?

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 14:54

MadamWhiteleigh · 16/06/2023 14:36

they have millions. they do not need to work ever. They have more than enough to support themselves in the lap of luxury for several lifetimes

I’m not convinced of this. Not saying you’re wrong, just I don’t know if it’s a given.

We do know Diana left her estate to both boys. I think estimates were £38 million back in 1996, though that could be wrong.

Several million each. That alone is easy to live off from for the rest of your life in great style and comfort.

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tigger2022 · 16/06/2023 14:55

I actually think Meghan could do a lot. Acting again, voice overs (pps have mentioned she has a good voice for radio!), even more podcasts if it was better scripted than Archetypes in order to steer the conversations away from herself. I think a storytelling format would have suited her better - she does that so well but the problem is, the stories she tells are all about herself right now. Her speeches are a bit bland and overindulgent, I’d scrap those and focus on “hands on” humanitarian stuff where she’s getting out and meeting people which is what she was so good at.

As for what Harry could do to make himself useful… erm 🫤

YoucancallmeKAREN · 16/06/2023 14:57

Ineedwinenow · 16/06/2023 14:20

I have no opinion of M&H as I don’t know them but women and women’s rights seem to be a big issue for Meghan so I have absolutely no problem with her doing a proper documentary focusing on women from all backgrounds and spending a day or two with them to see their challenges, whether that’s women on the breadline, single, widowed , married or those made to go into prostitution , crime or drugs! Or whatever! Spending time with women from every corner of our society and showing empathy to them and walking a mile in their shows and showing the world their struggles and linking women’s charities to their own company.

It would do a lot to show it isn’t the Meghan show with her the centre stage and her famous mates! If she showed humanity in real times instead of what she wants us to see from her ivory tower would make the public ( especially women) take to her a bit more!

Yes I have no doubt she has issues with in laws and her own family but women the world over have more serious issues and to showcase them and to be a real female ambassador would do her image the world of good

The same woman that wrote messages on bananas for sex workers ! Not sure she has a bloody clue to be honest.

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 14:57

Andrew was apparently her favourite DC

that is just speculation - she never said that

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jeffgoldblum · 16/06/2023 14:58

I second your erm..🫤 @tigger2022, apart from being prince Harry, he doesn't seem to have any other marketable skills! 🤷‍♀️

Ineedwinenow · 16/06/2023 14:59

YoucancallmeKAREN · 16/06/2023 14:57

The same woman that wrote messages on bananas for sex workers ! Not sure she has a bloody clue to be honest.

This is why she definitely needs to go and meet these people and actually understand and have a clue! Bloody writing on bananas , who told her that would be a good idea 🤦‍♀️

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 15:00

@jeffgoldblum - maybe it was an attempt to try to convince himself that while William was born first, he was beating him at something?

what grandparent would ever be nasty enough to tell one GC they were the favourite, knowing how all the others would feel?

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tigger2022 · 16/06/2023 15:01

If you’re reading this Meghan (big fan btw) being a second born Duke’s ex-wife seems to be quite lucrative and good for the soul, treat yourself 🍸

jeffgoldblum · 16/06/2023 15:03

None in my opinion @TrashyPanda ! , let's not forget the nugget on that American interview about her not having the right people around her! , and only he should be advising her! .
He got tricked by fairly juvenile tricksters and didn't know where penguins come from!

MadamWhiteleigh · 16/06/2023 15:08

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 14:54

We do know Diana left her estate to both boys. I think estimates were £38 million back in 1996, though that could be wrong.

Several million each. That alone is easy to live off from for the rest of your life in great style and comfort.

I just googled this as I’m quite curious. HSBC investment calculator.

£10M invested over 20 years can be expected to give you an annual return of £20K.

It can be £40K if the markets perform well, £7K if they don’t.

MadamWhiteleigh · 16/06/2023 15:10

That must be £20k a month surely, looking again.

TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 15:11

only he should be advising her

the delusion is strong!

that’s just crazy.

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Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 15:13

tigger2022 · 16/06/2023 14:55

I actually think Meghan could do a lot. Acting again, voice overs (pps have mentioned she has a good voice for radio!), even more podcasts if it was better scripted than Archetypes in order to steer the conversations away from herself. I think a storytelling format would have suited her better - she does that so well but the problem is, the stories she tells are all about herself right now. Her speeches are a bit bland and overindulgent, I’d scrap those and focus on “hands on” humanitarian stuff where she’s getting out and meeting people which is what she was so good at.

As for what Harry could do to make himself useful… erm 🫤

For her soul & well being, absolutely! Working is poss a bit ‘little people’ now unless a la Amal C…

To ‘thrive’ and not just exist they need 20-50 million a year, esp if upgrading house, & bottom line is voiceovers won’t cut the mustard.

Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 15:15

MadamWhiteleigh · 16/06/2023 15:08

I just googled this as I’m quite curious. HSBC investment calculator.

£10M invested over 20 years can be expected to give you an annual return of £20K.

It can be £40K if the markets perform well, £7K if they don’t.

That’s nothing like enough to fund the life they have & aspire to. That’s the problem.

jeffgoldblum · 16/06/2023 15:16

Poor Meghan , she probably thought her grafting days were over when she married Harry , now she's going to have to carry a fairly useless husband .
But of a milestone around her neck!

Peverellshire · 16/06/2023 15:18

YoucancallmeKAREN · 16/06/2023 14:57

The same woman that wrote messages on bananas for sex workers ! Not sure she has a bloody clue to be honest.

It’s performative if poss patronising, poss it cheered someone up. I think she realised this.

That said, to be fair she was apparently very kind at school & routinely championed the underdog…

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