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Kate's 'resentment' : Princess was denied a final goodbye with the Queen

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RYGO · 17/04/2023 12:53

"Kate's 'resentment' : Princess was denied a final goodbye with the Queen because she had to stay away from Balmoral to ensure Harry's wife couldn't come, royal author claims"

Kate 'resents' not having final moment to say goodbye to Queen | Daily Mail Online

According to book from Robert Jobson. Charles doesn't come of good in this book....

Kate 'resents' not having final moment to say goodbye to Queen

Kate, 41, remained in Windsor to look after her children while the immediate family headed to be at the late monarch's bedside - says Robert Jobson in new book, Our King.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11981061/Kate-resents-not-having-final-moment-say-goodbye-Queen.html

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mixedrecycling · 23/04/2023 21:37

Forsythiaforest234 · 23/04/2023 19:00

I think it takes a particular sort of person to befriend a young woman just out of her teens, and pretend to mentor them, while (allegedly) sleeping with her fiancé. And then to continue that relationship once dc are involved.

And anyway it’s not the infidelity that people object to, it’s the dishonesty and the attempts at cover up afterwards.

And yet other accounts say Andrew Parker Bowles was Camilla's choice of husband, and the 'catch' of her social group.

In what way would she 'mentor' Diana? She wasn't a a member of the RF.

Morestrangerthings · 24/04/2023 05:20

Camilla knew Clarkson before the lunch. She 'invited' him to write a column for the magazine "Country Life" when she was guest editor. I watched the 'documentary' on the making of that edition, because not knowing much about Camilla other than the scandal that surrounded the marriage of Charles and Diana, I wanted to know a bit more about her.

From Wiltshire Live July 2022. About the documentary.

"Charles is picked by his wife as her leading countryside champion and she has penned an article about him, while Jeremy Clarkson, former Top Gear presenter turned famer, is also been recognised by the duchess and features in the programme and magazine.

The broadcaster, friends with Camilla and her son the food writer Tom Parker Bowles, has become an unlikely campaigner for the farming industry after starring in the Amazon series Clarkson’s Farm, which follows his attempts to grow crops and look after livestock on land he owns in the Cotswolds.

The duchess says about Clarkson: “He made people realise how difficult farming is – I think some people see farming as cows sitting in the meadow on a beautiful day and they don’t realise the work and the difficulties that are behind it.” Camilla’s public image has been transformed, from being cast as the third person in the Prince and Princess of Wales’s marriage to a campaigning member of the monarchy prepared to serve the nation."

Clarkson has noted elsewhere that when he smoked he had, at occasions, had a sneaky cigarette with Camilla.

All this many months before the luncheon.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 24/04/2023 07:09

Not only that @Morestrangerthings

When Richard Eden very gleefully posted the Clarkson column (which he loved before everyone condemned it) he wrote:

Conversation must have been lively at Queen Camilla's lunch in Mayfair this week with Piers Morgan and Jeremy Clarkson among the guests. This is from Clarkson's typically forthright column in @TheSun today. #royal'

He gave many the impression that Camilla was in on it.

RS Locke tweeted.

If what Richard Eden insinuated is true, the unhinged sh!t being piled on #MeghanMarkIe comes with the endorsement of Queen Consort Camilla if not directly from her during the private lunch they both attended.

Roussette · 24/04/2023 07:14

I would imagine they chatted, and PM felt empowered to write his diatribe.

poppysockies · 24/04/2023 07:25

If JC has inside information- Perhaps this means that Meghan’s behaviour behind the scenes was much worse than we know & Clarkson wrote his diatribe after hearing about some of this?

or perhaps Camilla is very discreet and never discussed her personal family issues with someone best described a passing social acquaintance (one of many hundreds) and JC formed his own opinions

we will never know of course but I’d bet on the second being more likely

Roussette · 24/04/2023 07:42

poppysockies · 24/04/2023 07:25

If JC has inside information- Perhaps this means that Meghan’s behaviour behind the scenes was much worse than we know & Clarkson wrote his diatribe after hearing about some of this?

or perhaps Camilla is very discreet and never discussed her personal family issues with someone best described a passing social acquaintance (one of many hundreds) and JC formed his own opinions

we will never know of course but I’d bet on the second being more likely

I'm not saying private family business was discussed between them, I apologise if my post hinted at that. I imagine that just chatting at a social event perhaps made him want to rant like he did. In support of someone he likes.. Camilla.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 24/04/2023 08:52

I also find it telling given that Clarkson used the nickname Harold, that we then found out the next January was a nickname for Harry known only to the family. He also used the nickname in previous columns.

I am convinced this is how Camilla operates. Chats confidentially to mates in the press. And boom, the dirty work is done while giving her plausible deniability. Harry also writes that William believed that the rural rivals story William was so angry about came from Camilla. She's gone too far, William apparently said.

I don't like Camilla. I have watched her play the long game, and agree with everything Harry says about her. And I do not believe for a moment she never wanted to be Queen.

Samcro · 24/04/2023 09:40

I don't dislike Camilla, but do think seeing as she keeps company with men of a certain age that have stalked and said awful things about Meghan says a lot about her. also the pushing her family into the lime light whilst doing this.
bit behind on these threads had to step back yesterday as was so angry about the moderation on this topic, so sorry if this has been covered.

notanotheroneagain · 24/04/2023 10:15

MrsMaxDeWinter · 24/04/2023 08:52

I also find it telling given that Clarkson used the nickname Harold, that we then found out the next January was a nickname for Harry known only to the family. He also used the nickname in previous columns.

I am convinced this is how Camilla operates. Chats confidentially to mates in the press. And boom, the dirty work is done while giving her plausible deniability. Harry also writes that William believed that the rural rivals story William was so angry about came from Camilla. She's gone too far, William apparently said.

I don't like Camilla. I have watched her play the long game, and agree with everything Harry says about her. And I do not believe for a moment she never wanted to be Queen.

Without a doubt Camilla briefs all the time. Her team even has a WhatsApp group with the editors. Come on, she employs senior members of the tabloids.

Kate's 'resentment' : Princess was denied a final goodbye with the Queen
polkadotdalmation · 24/04/2023 20:05

Buzzfeed? Buzzfeed!!! you have to be joking! Buzzfeed is a joke!

polkadotdalmation · 24/04/2023 20:07

Go Look at the reliability factor 😂

poppysockies · 24/04/2023 22:10

and now Piers Morgan is being photographed with the York girls & hugging them. Weren’t they supposed to be Harry’s only allies in the RF?

Roussette · 24/04/2023 22:22

poppysockies · 24/04/2023 22:10

and now Piers Morgan is being photographed with the York girls & hugging them. Weren’t they supposed to be Harry’s only allies in the RF?

I thought it was just Beatrice, at least it was in the pic I saw

Eugenie and Jack are friendly with H&M yes

4plusthehound · 25/04/2023 01:21

MrsMaxDeWinter · 24/04/2023 08:52

I also find it telling given that Clarkson used the nickname Harold, that we then found out the next January was a nickname for Harry known only to the family. He also used the nickname in previous columns.

I am convinced this is how Camilla operates. Chats confidentially to mates in the press. And boom, the dirty work is done while giving her plausible deniability. Harry also writes that William believed that the rural rivals story William was so angry about came from Camilla. She's gone too far, William apparently said.

I don't like Camilla. I have watched her play the long game, and agree with everything Harry says about her. And I do not believe for a moment she never wanted to be Queen.

The more whipped up people are about, let's say H&M, the less people talk about Charles and Camilla.

I do not believe that is a coincidence.

I also think that a person who is willing to befriend someone while actively betraying them is pretty cut throat. That does not disappear with a few wrinkles.

I do think she "briefed" Clarkson, as in "a chat over a gin" (untouched).

mixedrecycling · 25/04/2023 07:46

There are a few people who seem to have a bizarre personal dislike of Camilla due to contested events from decades ago. Most people accept that life moves on, people change, sadly some relationships break down (and it is very rarely all one person's fault when they do).

So, there's no need to deflect from Charles and Camilla, because very few people care, apart from being mildly pleased that two people they don't know seem happy together.

Charles is the new Head of State. That's what the coronation is about. Camilla is his wife, so she plays a role in the traditional ceremony.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 25/04/2023 08:21

@mixedrecycling

If you believe as many do that the DM is the "voice of Middle England", it will disappoint you to know that in their poll last week, only 14 per cent of their polled readers agreed that Camilla should be called Queen.

In nationwide polls, she is constantly the lowest ranked of all the Working Royals, even Sophie and Edward consistently poll higher.

She is just not liked, and I suspect it has nothing to do with the breakdown of her marriage, or that of her current husband, but the fact that she has orchestrated a rehabilitation that, because it was manipulated through the tabloid press, felt forced, inauthentic and just not organic.

It doesn't help that she has placed her family front and centre of the RF, with her grandchildren, best friend and sister taking part.

Even her ex-husband has been invited.

And yes, despite her popularity, she is Queen. And she can invite who she likes. But that does not translate into being liked.

Whaeanui · 25/04/2023 08:34

@MrsMaxDeWinter for me, I gave Camilla some credit for her work with domestic abuse charities to end violence against women and girls. I lived with violence as a child and have campaigned in this area all my adult life so it’s important to me. However any credit I had given her for it disappeared when her friend wrote a disgusting article about her daughter in law that involved violence and sexual exploitation, and she said nothing. To me, if you can’t say something when someone in your family is subject to it, then your advocacy is merely PR and your supposed concern totally disingenuous. I’d rather people like her didn’t have anything to do with it. So I’m neutral about her, like most of them. I do know many people who actively dislike her, while some of that is due to her having an affair with the heir to the throne, for some affairs are a massive character flaw, I think mostly people who dislike her just genuinely don’t warm to her. That happens. I don’t see endless threads about how much they dislike her and how much work she’s had done though.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 25/04/2023 08:40

Whaeanui · 25/04/2023 08:34

@MrsMaxDeWinter for me, I gave Camilla some credit for her work with domestic abuse charities to end violence against women and girls. I lived with violence as a child and have campaigned in this area all my adult life so it’s important to me. However any credit I had given her for it disappeared when her friend wrote a disgusting article about her daughter in law that involved violence and sexual exploitation, and she said nothing. To me, if you can’t say something when someone in your family is subject to it, then your advocacy is merely PR and your supposed concern totally disingenuous. I’d rather people like her didn’t have anything to do with it. So I’m neutral about her, like most of them. I do know many people who actively dislike her, while some of that is due to her having an affair with the heir to the throne, for some affairs are a massive character flaw, I think mostly people who dislike her just genuinely don’t warm to her. That happens. I don’t see endless threads about how much they dislike her and how much work she’s had done though.

Indeed, people seem unable to warm to her. That's always the risk of a PRR campaign. One thing we kept hearing lately is how gracious she was in not going to a memorial service for Diana.

What the fuck would she have been doing there?? That they need to talk about it as an example of see how nice she is, is just an example of how tone deaf they are. And lately she has taken to wearing a lot of Bruce Oldfield. All people see when she wears his clothes is that he was one of Diana's favourite designers, and she looks nothing like Diana.

They should have just allowed time to do its work, naturally, not forced things as they have.

Whaeanui · 25/04/2023 08:43

@MrsMaxDeWinter yes agree. I’ve asked my mum and her friends why they didn’t like her and it’s never a single reason, I think you may be right that things happened very soon after Diana passed away and it’s left a bad taste for some.

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And there you are with your generalisations and unfounded lies

Personally - as a British born resident living in London, I couldn't give two shits about Camilla. I can completely understand why Harry feels as he does about her. If I knew my Dad had been having an affair desire marrying my Mum, I'd probably not love the woman he'd had an affair with.

polkadotdalmation · 25/04/2023 09:22

@kirinm What generalisations? I didn't make any?

Again, maybe learn to read what people actually put instead of jumping to conclusions.

mixedrecycling · 25/04/2023 09:22

I don't believe the DM is the voice of anyone, except the people who own/run it and want to get the clicks and outrage.

How funny that the DM is seen as thoroughly untrustworthy, until it prints something that backs up the 'right' point of view 😂

polkadotdalmation · 25/04/2023 09:23

Do you want links?

polkadotdalmation · 25/04/2023 09:25

mixedrecycling · 25/04/2023 09:22

I don't believe the DM is the voice of anyone, except the people who own/run it and want to get the clicks and outrage.

How funny that the DM is seen as thoroughly untrustworthy, until it prints something that backs up the 'right' point of view 😂

Well it doesn't, though. The figure quoted was from 2017 and in 2023 25 April, it's 55%.

I don't read the DM but I can google! Bit like their heroine. Oh, no, I forgot, she doesn't does she??

Lies lies and statistics

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