Why is Charles disappointed Archie and Lillibet not coming?

[AskMeMore]

Charles has said he is disappointed Archie and Lillibet are not coming to the Coronation. But the children were not invited to anything at the Coronation weekend.
Charles will be busy the whole weekend with Coronation events and meeting officials. So why has he said he is disappointed when he would not even see them/ If he wanted to see them he should have invited them to something.

Did the queen actually meet with lilli?

Yes.

And yes, there is a committee. A committee made up of the same wasp/bee who are on Ravec and told the Home Office to pull Harry's security. The same wasp who prevented harry from having a meeting with his grandmother after she agreed to meet up. The same wasp who lied to the queen and said he didn't know H's wife was being hounded by the press and they need help. The same one who lied about the printer.

My guess, is that they knew that it's Archie's birthday and chose that date specifically. No one else would have known or cared, including Charles. As I said on another thread Charles is probably like the CEO whose PA has to remind him of his wife's birthday and anniversaries and book the flowers, restaurant and buy gifts. The wife would do the same for the children events. Unfortunately for Harry, those PA/Wife roles belong to the spiteful Wasp and Camilla.

Church leaders like bishops etc, would drop everything upon being summoned by their leader, the King. They would cancel any events being held. They could not even secure the most powerful leader in the world with this date they chose out of 365 days of the year. The only diary that matters is Charles. Even football matches or other popular will probably be later in the evening (didn't William go to a match same day he had something quite important? He attended both. It all worked out regardless)

Harry said he would like a reconciliation with his father, so no doubt, Harry would drop everything for him if he wanted to visit. I would even go as far as to say, if Charles asked Harry for an intimate meeting with the grandkids, Harry would fly his family over in a heartbeat.

Yes @notanotheroneagain

He's not likely to say he couldn't give two shits if they're there or not, is he?

Re; the alleged report that H&M wanted some acknowledgment of it being Archie's birthday.
Anyone else amused at the vision of the sacred ceremony pausing midway through and everyone breaking out into a rendition of "Happy Birthday."

It’s a shame they have done away with ‘Spitting Image’ really, there is a wealth of material to work with😁

Other than the fact you're wittering on about Wasps and Flies (wtf??) you apparently don't know much about the UK.

1. Football matches aren't often in the evening. Kick off is usually 3pm and for police it's more like an all day event. Fans will start arriving from late morning.

1. The Monarch is "Head of the Church of England", but No. Church Leaders aren't at his beck and call. What about non CoE leaders who are also taking part?

Its unfortunate the event clashed, but as often happens in life with major events - it happens!

Once again for the hard of hearing. A 4yo Birthday (even if it were Williams child) would not be a consideration in the event planning.

Football matches aren't often in the evening. Kick off is usually 3pm and for police it's more like an all day event. Fans will start arriving from late morning.

And they also require policing, which will be a major consideration.

The Monarch is "Head of the Church of England", but No. Church Leaders aren't at his beck and call. What about non CoE leaders who are also taking part?

And the foreign heads of state, as well as assorted political, miltary and diplomatic dignitaries from Britain and the Commonwealth?

The reality is that there were only a small number of dates which could potentially have been chosen. Given British weather, it was always going to be in late spring or early summer and would have to be a Saturday. This tends to be a busy time of year with regard to major sporting and other fixtures. The idea that Charles could have chosen any random date but decreed it had to be on Archie's birthday is laughable, but then some here seem to have a strange comic book idea of how the monarchy and Britain work.

Who on earth are these precious parents who think that a small child's birthday would even warrant a mention in the grand scheme of things but to expect a fucking coronation to be arranged around it?
How did this come about? It's a date on the calendar. He's four. Get over it, ffs.

I suspect this is Charles view. Archies birthday does not matter and was not considered at all. He is probably surprised that anyone thinks it should be taken into account.

Ofcourse Charles diary takes precedence over any CoE leaders. He is the Head of the Church. Just like everyone would drop everything for the pope in catholic.

It's optional for other religions, even if invited, the Pope for catholic church would send one of his seniors (like Biden did, with Flotus).

England is not playing major football this year. There is no World Cup etc. And rugby is in September.
Can't see why they chose this date.

Strangely enough, this particular date in the last 5yrs has been 'partly cloudy/rain/showers'. Let's hope things change this year. 🙂

May was not a good choice. We already have two bank holidays that month. Would have been far better in June. Less impact on enmployers.

I think May was chosen to avoid the Trooping the Colour in June, which involves a considerable amount of “ceremony” in its own right. July and August clash with many people’s annual holidays anyway and may be too hot. May is usually reasonably warm, even if it rains

@AskMeMore Well I'm with him on that. Most sane people wouldn't mind.

But this whole thread does make me realise that my whacky cousin isn't perhaps so much of an outlier as we thought. She refused to attend her brother's silver wedding anniversary event because it fell on her (not a big number) birthday.
We just thought it was her being particularly self-absorbed as usual but it seems there are other people for whom this is a 'thing' too.

It's now a stage show. We saw it recently. Harry and Meghan were shown no mercy, although to be fair, neither was anyone else!

Powerful post notanotheroneagain

Gosh, the research here! To the extent of googling the weather on the Coronation date for the past five years!!!

Some posters here are wasted. The Palace should have hired you as event organisers…

It was an open choice. It provided a potential excuse if they eventually decided against coming (which they did). I doubt the children are not coming because of the birthday. It is more likely to be because they are too young to understand or participate, their British family are complete strangers to them so it would add pressure on top of everything else. Mainly though, it is posh Jeremy Kyle, using the kids as bargaining chips which is always unfortunate and very common.

I suspect that Harry & Meghan made the decision for it to play out this way, with him attending and her not, for their own reasons. We may never know exactly what they are but I doubt it was, "Meghan will stay home BECAUSE it is Archie's birthday." More likely, "Meghan will stay home AND will celebrate Archie's birthday with him."

@BlackFriday.. You jest but imagine how wonderful and refreshing that or some note to archie would have been.

Unfortunately I think not making it about his immediate family is a shame ie Harry only

I'm jesting because it would be unthinkable, not refreshing.
This is a serious, grown-up occasion and any mention during it of a birthday, particularly one of Harry's children, would smack of concessions and demands having been made.
Just inappropriate on every level.

But I don't think that means Charles can't express regret that he won't see his grandchildren at all during this time. Had MegZit not happened, he would have done at some point.

@BlackFriday

But these aren't any patents are they? Direct son of the soon to be crowned king?
It's not even like he had tons of dc, there are merely two. Both of whom who have had a pretty ghastly upbringing something which Charles surley resonates with.

He should have demanded from the start that he wants William and harry plus families at center stage.