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Why is Charles disappointed Archie and Lillibet not coming?

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AskMeMore · 14/04/2023 14:42

Charles has said he is disappointed Archie and Lillibet are not coming to the Coronation. But the children were not invited to anything at the Coronation weekend.
Charles will be busy the whole weekend with Coronation events and meeting officials. So why has he said he is disappointed when he would not even see them/ If he wanted to see them he should have invited them to something.

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milveycrohn · 16/04/2023 15:47

@tatalan
"you really think he hoped the Sussexes would come to the UK but evicted them from Frogmore?"
Apparently, they were informed that the lease on Frogmore would not be renewed back in January, but the lease does not expire until after the Coronation; ie that it would still be available for them for the coronation, if they chose to come.
Why would the Sussexes wish to keep the property available. They were shown packing up their belongings in the Netflix documentary. They rarely come to the UK, why keep it?

tatalan · 16/04/2023 17:38

@milveycrohn how very convenient for Charles. No guarantee he would have seen them anyway, I recall he was too busy last time Harry was in the UK.

4plusthehound · 17/04/2023 05:39

BlackFriday · 15/04/2023 20:23

We either have a monarchy or we don't. There is not anywhere near enough support at the moment for a Republic, so Monarchy it is. For now.
Therefore, no half measures (although I support the fact that Charles is cutting back nonetheless). Let's do it properly and show the watching billions around the world, once again, how we do things like this.

Watching billions???

Hyperbole surely?

MrsMaxDeWinter · 17/04/2023 06:16

AskMeMore · 14/04/2023 16:06

@LadyMuckingabout Two separate stories in different publications saying Charles rarely sees different grandchildren tends to hint there is some truth to it.
I mean he is not unusual, lots of fathers of that age do not really bother with small children, even when they are related.
But the hypocrisy of claiming he is disappointed they are not coming to the coronation annoys me. If he really wanted to see them he should have invited them to one of the other events.

It's all spin to make Charles look good.

They forget to mention that this loving grandfather has now taken away the only secure home of the grandchildren he is apparently disappointed over not seeing, which will have made visits back to the UK to see him near impossible. And given that home to Andrew!

TheCrystalPalace · 17/04/2023 07:43

Only secure home?!
Ffs.
Let me get out my violin.

tatalan · 17/04/2023 09:19

@TheCrystalPalace then Charles shouldn't brief about his (fake) disappointment 😂

purpledalmation · 17/04/2023 11:38

Taken away a secure home? I thought they lived in a mansion with a holiday aka second home in the Uk

4plusthehound · 17/04/2023 11:45

purpledalmation · 17/04/2023 11:38

Taken away a secure home? I thought they lived in a mansion with a holiday aka second home in the Uk

I thought they had one home in the UK and one in the States?

Not bad for a royal.

It was punative and mean to take that house away.

ajandjjmum · 17/04/2023 12:24

Twelve months isn't it since the children last visited their 'secure home' in the UK?

purpledalmation · 17/04/2023 12:34

ajandjjmum · 17/04/2023 12:24

Twelve months isn't it since the children last visited their 'secure home' in the UK?

Wish I had the insecurity of a mansion in California

mixedrecycling · 18/04/2023 23:08

Me too 😂

Viviennemary · 18/04/2023 23:15

It would be absolutely ludicrous for a four year old to be toasted at the Coronation. Princess Alexandra's birthday is on Christmas day. Did the Queen give her a wave and say happy birthday during her Christmas day speech. No.

Morestrangerthings · 19/04/2023 04:00

if any of what is reported is true, (emphasis on that, because so much of what is reported is made up bullshit),
Charles ‘not having time’ to see Harry on his last visit looks bad.

I know there are people who would disagree with tha my opinion, but as I see it, Charles is the Dad and Grandfather and no matter how important his job is, there should always be time to see a child, even a child who has publicly criticised him and his family.

I can’t imagine not having and making time to see my children or my little grandchildren either - no matter what.

TheCrystalPalace · 19/04/2023 07:05

@Morestrangerthings Maybe that's why you perhaps don't hold an important position in public/corporate life?
He's the King, ffs. And if I recall correctly, he was on a tour of Germany at the time.

mixedrecycling · 19/04/2023 08:25

If, in the future, DD is publicly very critical of my parenting, has a long planned visit to where I am living and at the last minute expects me to drop everything I am doing and have planned to do then, no, I probably wouldn't see her, and would continue with what I have planned. If she is publicly critical, and while planning a visit gets in touch to say she'd like to meet then I would rearrange my plans to meet her if at all possible - obviously if I have a scheduled work trip I might not be able to change my diary.

Obviously I hope DD and I don't get to that point 😀

Harry has every right to put boundaries on his interactions with his family for his own mental health, and his family have every right to put their own boundaries in place for the same reason.

Morestrangerthings · 19/04/2023 08:34

TheCrystalPalace · 19/04/2023 07:05

@Morestrangerthings Maybe that's why you perhaps don't hold an important position in public/corporate life?
He's the King, ffs. And if I recall correctly, he was on a tour of Germany at the time.

No, you’re right. I wasn’t born to great privilege and luxury. Charles didn’t achieve his position. He was handed it.

So what if he’s the King? He’s been a king for what? 6 or 7 months? He’s also a parent and grandparent.

It’s been noted on here that Harry and William went to boarding school,
and after their mother died they were sent to other peoples’ homes to be cared for during the school holidays. Charles wasn’t king then. No wonder those boys struggled.

in the 1950s and 1960s the British Monarchy was marketed as The Royal Family. Now we all refer to them that way. And what a family. A dysfunctional family.

mixedrecycling · 19/04/2023 09:05

Morestrangerthings · 19/04/2023 08:34

No, you’re right. I wasn’t born to great privilege and luxury. Charles didn’t achieve his position. He was handed it.

So what if he’s the King? He’s been a king for what? 6 or 7 months? He’s also a parent and grandparent.

It’s been noted on here that Harry and William went to boarding school,
and after their mother died they were sent to other peoples’ homes to be cared for during the school holidays. Charles wasn’t king then. No wonder those boys struggled.

in the 1950s and 1960s the British Monarchy was marketed as The Royal Family. Now we all refer to them that way. And what a family. A dysfunctional family.

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Well, I tend to agree with you about boarding school 😂but many parents disagree and continue to send their children in the belief that it is the best for them.

Actually, it probably can be a good option at a certain age with a certain personality of child. I know families that have survived because a child with SN has gone to a residential school, and I am sure some older teenagers would appreciate the space and communal life for part of the week.

I would have hated it, and DD needs the nurture of home - but she loved the residential holiday week she had at Easter. She is reaching the age when she is spending more and more time with friends and their families aka being 'sent to other people's homes to be cared for during the school holidays' - not because I don't want her and can't be bothered, but because she enjoys their company and is becoming more independent. Just as her friends come here for more extended periods.

William and Kate seem to have chosen not to go down the boarding route from the early age that Charles and Diana did - like many people of their generation. I think there is far more awareness now of the damage it all-too-often does.

milveycrohn · 19/04/2023 10:52

I once worked with a colleague who sent his children to a boarding prep school from the age of 8.
I thought it was horrific, but for certain groups of people, it is perfectly normal.

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AskMeMore · 19/04/2023 13:48

I agree about boarding school. And for a father not even to spend holidays with his bereaved sons strikes me as horrific.
Both Harry and Charles do not seem to realise it though. Both talked about Charles generosity of spending a few weeks with Charles, Harry and William in Africa after their mum died. That this was seen as being exceptionally caring, says it all to me.

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milveycrohn · 19/04/2023 14:58

@AskMeMore Of course, don't forget that Charles and the princes were at Balmoral when Diana died.
With divorced families, both parents will have the children at different times.
Diana had been away with the boys on Mohamed Al Fayed's yacht and there are many pics of them. The trip she died was later.
Then it was Charles' 'turn' (if that is the expression to use), and they were at Balmoral while Diana was with Dodi etc.
Because of all the Royal Family trips and engagements which Diana still did as well, it is possible that it was thought that a boarding school would give some stability in their lives.
In fact many service personnel send their children to boarding schools for that reason.
That does not mean I agree with it. But it is the norm in many families. Not what I would want to do, though.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 20/04/2023 08:57

TheCrystalPalace · 19/04/2023 07:05

@Morestrangerthings Maybe that's why you perhaps don't hold an important position in public/corporate life?
He's the King, ffs. And if I recall correctly, he was on a tour of Germany at the time.

Just to correct this: he was not in Germany on the Monday and Tuesday that Harry was in London. The German tour started that Wednesday.

He should have been in France, on a visit that was cancelled by Macron due to strikes.

He was at Highgrove, with a suddenly clear diary, but briefed that he was too busy to see Harry.

Addymontgomeryfan · 21/04/2023 11:53

You don't have proof that the children were not invited to any part of the celebrations that are happening that weekend. They are too young to attend the the coronation ceremony, so rightfully weren't invited to that.

purpledalmation · 21/04/2023 12:02

How strange that it was on the news on the day Harry was in court (the same day) that Charles flew out to Germany that afternoon. I'm sure in the morning he was packing and checking his passport and allowing 3 hours for check in.

Harry was of course in court listening to lawyers drone on and realising it was not even necessary for him to attend (whoops). I'm sure he brought his crayoning-in book though.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 22/04/2023 21:46

Seriously .....Can you imagine Charles packing his own weekend bag and checking his own passport is iin date. Next you'll be telling us Camilla does this for him. Aren't these the kind of things we pay his staff to do and probably not the morning he is flying out!?

PreparationPreparationPrep · 22/04/2023 21:49

And Charles and allowing 3 hours to check in . Maybe economy seat 32D as well 🤣🤣🤣